2024 - 2025 Schedule Thread

[willie]

11 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Updated schedule:

TBA exhibition game
TBA exhibition game
Monday, November 4 vs. Santa Clara (at the Sanford Pentagon in Sioux Falls, SD)
Saturday, November 16 vs. Loyola Marymount
Friday, November 22 vs. Wichita State (at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, MO)
Monday, November 25 vs. Quinnipiac/UMass-Lowell (SLU MTE)
Wednesday, November 27 vs. Quinnipiac/UMass-Lowell (SLU MTE)
Saturday, November 30 vs. Wofford
Thursday, December 5 at San Francisco
Sunday, December 8 vs. Chicago State
Sunday, December 15 at Illinois State
Sunday, December 22 at Grand Canyon
TBA vs. Jackson State
TBA buy game
TBA buy game

A10 home-and-home: Dayton, Loyola-Chicago, St. Joe's, VCU
A10 home only: St. Bonaventure, Duquesne, Rhode Island, George Mason, La Salle
A10 away only: Richmond, Fordham, UMass, Davidson, George Washington

Three Sunday games is December. I am not an NFL guy so I like it . i

[wgstl]

20 minutes ago, slufan13 said:

3 true road games, 2 of which are likely Q1 games. A semi away game that is a Q2 at worst game. A few other Q2 games. The MTE is unexciting but if we just scheduled those 2 teams as home games, it would be more appealing than the typical 300th ranked team we usually get. There's no fun home game but that's what happens when you're trying to build a good schedule with a bad reputation. 

from a quad stand point it may be a good schedule, from a SOS is a slight notch above last year, but I think we all as a group felt lasts years ooc was underwhelming. 

[Pistol]

Analytically, I like what they're doing in the face of refusals from P5 conference teams. They're avoiding landmines to the NET ranking and scheduling teams that will be in the mix to win their lower-level conferences.

My fear is that it's the 2025 equivalent of what happened to Missouri State in 2007, when they were 22 in the RPI and didn't get a bid. At the end of the day, there is a manual component to the NCAA Tournament selection process and I worry about committee members seeing the schedule and it fails the eye test for some of them.

There will still be a win total that will get them an at-large bid. I don't know what that number will be, though. Higher than 20, I know that much.

This is SLU making the best of an increasingly unfair situation. It isn't the result of SLU not trying.

[cgeldmacher]

I assume that the MTE will be considered home games for purposes of counting toward games purchased by season ticket holders.  Am I right?

[Slu let the dogs out?]

43 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Updated schedule:

TBA exhibition game
TBA exhibition game
Monday, November 4 vs. Santa Clara (at the Sanford Pentagon in Sioux Falls, SD)
Saturday, November 16 vs. Loyola Marymount
Friday, November 22 vs. Wichita State (at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, MO)
Monday, November 25 vs. Quinnipiac/UMass-Lowell (SLU MTE)
Wednesday, November 27 vs. Quinnipiac/UMass-Lowell (SLU MTE)
Saturday, November 30 vs. Wofford
Thursday, December 5 at San Francisco
Sunday, December 8 vs. Chicago State
Sunday, December 15 at Illinois State
Sunday, December 22 at Grand Canyon
TBA vs. Jackson State
TBA buy game
TBA buy game

A10 home-and-home: Dayton, Loyola-Chicago, St. Joe's, VCU
A10 home only: St. Bonaventure, Duquesne, Rhode Island, George Mason, La Salle
A10 away only: Richmond, Fordham, UMass, Davidson, George Washington

31-0

[wgstl]

20 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Analytically, I like what they're doing in the face of refusals from P5 conference teams. They're avoiding landmines to the NET ranking and scheduling teams that will be in the mix to win their lower-level conferences.

My fear is that it's the 2025 equivalent of what happened to Missouri State in 2007, when they were 22 in the RPI and didn't get a bid. At the end of the day, there is a manual component to the NCAA Tournament selection process and I worry about committee members seeing the schedule and it fails the eye test for some of them.

There will still be a win total that will get them an at-large bid. I don't know what that number will be, though. Higher than 20, I know that much.

This is SLU making the best of an increasingly unfair situation. It isn't the result of SLU not trying.

I think the GCU, St fan, and WSU could hold a lot of weight.  That's potentially 3 T75 teams away from chaifetz.  If those teams names were WVU, UTAH, and FSU fans would be going crazy, and those three are preseason ranked behind the ones we have scheduled. 

[wgstl]

Just now, Slu let the dogs out? said:

31-0

Slow down buddy, too much Kool-Aid for you.  Illinois st has us circled for a payback.  I see that being our only loss. 30-1

[slufan13]

25-6. Then covid shuts down the season

[Old guy]

26 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Analytically, I like what they're doing in the face of refusals from P5 conference teams. They're avoiding landmines to the NET ranking and scheduling teams that will be in the mix to win their lower-level conferences.

My fear is that it's the 2025 equivalent of what happened to Missouri State in 2007, when they were 22 in the RPI and didn't get a bid. At the end of the day, there is a manual component to the NCAA Tournament selection process and I worry about committee members seeing the schedule and it fails the eye test for some of them.

There will still be a win total that will get them an at-large bid. I don't know what that number will be, though. Higher than 20, I know that much.

This is SLU making the best of an increasingly unfair situation. It isn't the result of SLU not trying.

I like your comparison with Missouri State in 2007, it was essentially the same kind of issue that Schertz faced last year with his ISU team going to the NIT. The big winner out of SLU for 2024 plus a number of following years is Ford. He is going to be paid a very large salary and he has to do absolutely nothing to get it. If he has any brains at all, he should be able to live the rest of his life a wealthy man out of the residual money he will get from SLU. 

[billikenfan05]

52 minutes ago, slufan13 said:

3 true road games, 2 of which are likely Q1 games. A semi away game that is a Q2 at worst game. A few other Q2 games. The MTE is unexciting but if we just scheduled those 2 teams as home games, it would be more appealing than the typical 300th ranked team we usually get. There's no fun home game but that's what happens when you're trying to build a good schedule with a bad reputation. 

 

1 hour ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Is it?  What's the marquee home non-conference game?  

That MTE is solid? 

Most fans aren't us, looking at average projected NET, Torvik and KenPom.  Even with that, this schedule might be bleh.

I think that it's a solid schedule, it's not sexy, it's not exciting. The home schedule is likely going to be doggy doo, but that's on the prior coaching regime and the current athletics director as you said.
 

The upside:

Some cool travel opportunities: Sioux Falls, SD and Phoenix, AZ, and a return to the Bay Area

Two driving distance games at Illinois State & neutral in KC (Meet me at McFaddens again)

 

 

Also: We get a game in LA next year, sup Chris Sloan?

 

[wgstl]

11 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

 

 

Two driving distance games at Illinois State & neutral in KC (Meet me at McFaddens again)

 

 

 

 

Thank god its a weekend game. 

[ACE]

1 hour ago, almaman said:

it seems impossible today to have a desirable schedule on Compton. no one desirable wants to schedule us, less desirable teams means losing to them really hurt.

Unfortunately, this is the way of the world for mid majors now. This is not unique to us. The days of home & homes with the likes of Auburn, KState, NC State and Seton Hall are pretty much over. At best hope to pick up a P6 game or two in a neutral site. But in today's system there is no upside for P6 schools to schedule tough mid majors. Someone blaming Ford for this is comical. that's someone who is clueless about what is happening around college basketball. In interviews, Schertz has talked about the real challenges of scheduling in today's environment. 

[slu72]

It goes w/o saying if we travelled better we would improve our chances at MTE tournaments in NOV and DEC. Look at Dayton they always land in a biggie because the SVU’s travel en masse. Last year at Myrtle Beach, a popular vacay destination, we really didn’t have a big following. 

[brianstl]

2 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:

Is it?  What's the marquee home non-conference game?  

That MTE is solid? 

Most fans aren't us, looking at average projected NET, Torvik and KenPom.  Even with that, this schedule might be bleh.

Honestly it would have been better to play in the a crappy MTE like the Myrtle Beach Invitational or the November Clasico than this thing.  That way you at least get trip in for the guys.  Instead this event is being used to get the home game total where they want it against teams I don't care about.  I would have happily paid the same price for my season tickets for a couple less home games this year.

[Billikenbooster]

Is the MTE at Chaifetz or Enterprise?

[johnbj14]

12 minutes ago, slu72 said:

It goes w/o saying if we travelled better we would improve our chances at MTE tournaments in NOV and DEC. Look at Dayton they always land in a biggie because the SVU’s travel en masse. Last year at Myrtle Beach, a popular vacay destination, we really didn’t have a big following. 

Bingo. Traveling and winning are the only ways to get into these events if you’re not a power conference program. The program and us fans have not done enough of either to become a mainstay at the better events. 
 

The event at Chaifetz is a necessary evil this year with all the games on the schedule away from home, but I hope SLU is somewhere warm next November, and that this isn’t an annual thing. 

[Compton]

This schedule leaves us at the mercy of the A10 being strong this year. You need name wins to make a case to the committee and we won't have any opportunities to get them in non-conference. 

[billikenfan05]

1 minute ago, Compton said:

This schedule leaves us at the mercy of the A10 being strong this year. You need name wins to make a case to the committee and we won't have any opportunities to get them in non-conference. 

You’re not wrong, but I think it needs to be clear, as Abomb stated: There’s really only two people to blame here and neither of them is Josh Schertz. 

[Pistol]

Let's also remember that we were in what was supposed to be a more competitive MTE that fell apart before programs signed on the dotted line.

[Lord Elrond]

15 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

You’re not wrong, but I think it needs to be clear, as Abomb stated: There’s really only two people to blame here and neither of them is Josh Schertz. 

Exactly. Josh Schertz is not to blame for this schedule, he’s just the guy who has to clean up the mess he inherited.

[Brighton]

47 minutes ago, slu72 said:

It goes w/o saying if we travelled better we would improve our chances at MTE tournaments in NOV and DEC. Look at Dayton they always land in a biggie because the SVU’s travel en masse. Last year at Myrtle Beach, a popular vacay destination, we really didn’t have a big following. 

The Flyers are the only de-facto pro sports team for them:

[Old guy]

Blame has no role in the current situation. Schertz is doing the best he can, but I am afraid that this season may be similar to the last season he played with the ISU team, great results great NET, and a slot at the NIT. The big winner of the 2024 season will ultimately be Ford. He will get enough money for several years to allow him to live a wealthy life without working.

[Billiken Rich]

2 hours ago, slufan13 said:

25-6. Then covid shuts down the season

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!!!! AND I MEAN RIGHT F-ING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HoosierPal]

Stu D mentioned two more OOC home games still to be added.  Here is a vote for at least one Valley school, starting a H and H series.  SIUC, Bradley, Missouri State, Murray State and Belmont are my personal favorites. All five could/should/might be better than 200 NET. 

Then throw in a buy game with an Ohio Valley team.  Morehead State was respectable last season, but lost just about everyone.  Lindenwood needs to finish about NET 300 before I'd schedule them.  S Indy ended up last season as a bad team NET 329, but they have added 7 transfers.  So SIUE? 

[Lord Elrond]

1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

Stu D mentioned two more OOC home games still to be added.  Here is a vote for at least one Valley school, starting a H and H series.  SIUC, Bradley, Missouri State, Murray State and Belmont are my personal favorites. All five could/should/might be better than 200 NET. 

Then throw in a buy game with an Ohio Valley team.  Morehead State was respectable last season, but lost just about everyone.  Lindenwood needs to finish about NET 300 before I'd schedule them.  S Indy ended up last season as a bad team NET 329, but they have added 7 transfers.  So SIUE? 

I would point out that we owe SIUE for stepping up and hosting the WNIT Championship for us, so if playing them is what they ask for, I don’t see how we can refuse.  A favor is owed to them.