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  3. The Wiz

    The Bills over OSU by 2

    A great win...not always pretty but a win....Also within the normal spread variance of -1 to +4. So here is an important announcement....I have a way to fix our FT shooting and get us more points /gm I will be back to that in a moment....first let's look at our slash line...I am going to expand it a bit to FG%/ 2P%/3P%/FT%......42/ 34/ 67/ 47....which grades out to ....F / F- / A+ / F-...If you take away the poor , slow start....0-7 to start the game....we finish at 49% FG% or an A. ...so there is a lot hidden in the numbers. In terms of slash performance....we should have made an additional 8 FTs and 2 additional 2 pointers....8FTs + 2 two pointers = 12pts more...however...we made 4 extra 3s =12pts...so through a strange quirk we make the slash line which is always important in winning the game.... As for the FT improvement I mentioned above ...here is the plan....We take all our foul shots from the 3 pt line. Seriously though.. since when does your highest slash number out of 4 become your 3P% number....only in bizzaro Billiken world. Let's look at the rest of the numbers.... TO differential...15 vs 17 in favor of the Bills....PASS...the extra 2 TOs by OSU were worth 4 pts to the Bills ...the difference in the game....while 15 is too high the differential was more important...we still need to keep TOs around 12 for the future.... Stop Tinkle....PASS and FAIL...I was looking at 15pts and 6 reb....actual 15pts and 10 reb...all in all a pretty good job on him Shot blocker Kelley....PASS....he had 2 blks...about half his normal.... OSU steals...PASS...a stealing team...they took 8 from us...this was a pass because we took 10 from them OSU slash 40/27/77...PASS...pretty much kept them in check...FT% was higher than normal as we kept fouling their good foul shooter FT battle....PASS...What??? this has to be a mistake....I said in a close game the deciding factor would be FTs....well we sure didn't beat them % wise as they trounced us 77% to 47%...so how did we pass?...we took nearly twice as many shots as they did and beat them at the line ...15pts to 13pts...another strange twist in Billiken bizzaro world. A tip o' the cap to Bess ...career high performance 24pts...56/60/43 ........and to Thatch ...great performance in 1st start...16 pts...71/80/40 And finally The Bills showed again why their defense is on the Honor Roll. Bottom line...The Bills beat a good team by doing what they were supposed to do even though it was strange at times and not always pretty.....They faded at the end because they were gassed.....something we saw last year when they were short of players and lacked depth...hopefully we get some bodies back and ease the pressure. We bent but didn't break...something we have done a few times this season...a mark of a good team...a mark of a winning team....
  4. RiseAndGrind

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Isabell On a plane go somewhere tonight according to his IG
  5. Agree, and for those concerned with A/TO ratio, if the Bills just hit their layups, the assists would have looked much different.
  6. Cowboy

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    -I too don't understand why the heck with a 4 point lead JB was anywhere close to Tinkle as the clock expired, he got away with it, hope we don't see it again -we escaped, we overcame some adversity (TI being benched (I don't believe he is hurt/injured), CAG not starting, a patented Billiken drought, lost a lead) and won the game -when the season started I think most of us were excited about our depth, my how things have changed -Fred Thatch, welcome to the offensive party!!! -free throws, my goodness -we did reduce our turnovers but I am not celebrating having 15 and they outrebounded us and we won the game, I would not have thought this season we could win a game when we didn't win the rebound margin -finish the semester the right way and go to Houston and get a win, that would be very nice
  7. Glorydays2013

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    You would think a former pg star like Ford could develop a PG
  8. jonny karate

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Awesome game! Keep winning! Ill take ford goodwin gordan french over crews reynolds heck i dont remeber anyone else from that era any day.
  9. cheeseman

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    What a low bar we have now that all you have to do is hit a couple of FTs to make fans want to see more of the player. Jacobs is not ready for prime time as a pg at this point. Now can he develop - of course but he would have cost us the game for sure if Ford had left him in. Ford put him in at the end when we had the ball for just the reason that he apparently can shoot FTs. Supposedly Gordon is one of the best FT shooters during practice - if so then what the heck happened today. He made everyone forget who Shaq was at the line. Gordon was brutal. The problem is if he can not do better in games shooting FTs he is a real liability. Teams will foul him all the time. His poor and that is being generous FT shooting today quite frankly almost cost us the game. He missed so many in a row that we went for several minutes with no scores and that is how the Beavers were able to get back into the game. Had he hit even 50% and that is poor the game never would have been that close. As far as the crowd - pretty hard to get excited about missed layups and missed FTs for long stretches.
  10. JettFlight5

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Tinkle's 12-step program on the right side of the lane was incredibly bad.
  11. cheeseman

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    I agree they were walking a lot more than it was called.
  12. Basketbill

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    I thought the Crowd got into it when things went well, ie. the end of the first half, after Bess' 3 to go up by 12, then there was 4 minutes of quiet because nothing happened except missed FTs and letting them back in the game. The crowd re-entered the picture the last 5 minutes. I think JG did decently at point guard, his offensive fouls were avoidable. He need to ask JB how to shot a mid range J. Bess rises up so well and shoots with balance and control. As far as Demarcus Jacobs, I want to see more. Sure he had some of the most unsightly turnovers of the game, but he made two FT's. The foul situation was unfortunate, but Ford decided he would rather play without Jacobs in the second half than with JG with 3 fouls to start the second. I see no reason why Ford should go back to Tramaine Isabel as a starter.
  13. billiken_roy

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Imo most of getting a crowd in the game is on the team. Give us something to get excited about. Right now our offense is maybe a notch above watching a phil ford 4 corners offense in action. I will say it was better today but up to the last few minutes, not enough to get out of my seat much beyond yelling at stupid referees calls (i.e. thatch's fantom foul for waiving his hands at his man ) Standing just to be standing might be the stupidest fan trend in the history of the world. Standing when something fantastic happens makes sense and has value.
  14. Spoon-Balls

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Yes, I was there. The crowd was virtually silent for the vast majority of the game. It wasn't until the final 5 minutes of the game for a select few people to start standing standing up in an attempt to get their sections going, which worked for about 30 seconds and then everyone quieted back down. The sparse student section did their best to keep the noise going, but it died until the final minute or two when it became clear that the Bills would hold on for the W. It just didn't really seem as loud as it should have been when Bess was going on a run late in the second half. Most people were just casually clapping like it was a golfing tournament. Overall it was a pretty subpar atmosphere relative to Chaifetz arena standards. Surprising, especially because it was a Sunday afternoon game.
  15. billiken_roy

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    old guy isabell was on the bench just not in uniform
  16. Billiken Rich

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Fred Thatch > Josh Fisher and that is not a small thing...…...
  17. Billiken Rich

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    THAT WAS JUST AWSOME!
  18. Compton

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    They beat Oregon as well - who are ranked above Oregon St.
  19. I thought one was a travel, but I’m not positive on that.
  20. slu72

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    I just finished watching on DVR. My observations: 1) Goodwin's gotta slow down. 2.) Thatch should start. Isabell can come off the bench as a sort of an igniter. 3) Jacobs needs more grooming. Too many bad passes. 4.) Javon Bess has got to stay healthy. (Captain Obvious comment). 5.) Foreman- love him and hate him. Gordon's a lot better. 6.) I guess the PAC 12 allows the Eurostep. If I was a ref they would have been hit wit a bunch more travels.
  21. I think his 3 turnovers were all charges
  22. I may be wrong, but I don't remember once when Goodwin turned the ball over against the press. He ran a very good PG today.
  23. CBFan

    Other MCBB games on TV '18-'19

    Or even two or three turnovers away
  24. CBFan

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    Yes we were. The crowd really gave it to the refs too.
  25. Yesterday
  26. CBFan

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    It is really strange always seeing those open seats even for big games I do not understand why they buy those seats. I wish they would give those tickets away if they are not planing to attend. The wife and I were standing in our section yelling at the bald ref that missed some calls
  27. slusam

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    On the radio 101.1. Ford really liked this lineup with Thatch in and said we will see a lot more of it. With Bess, Thatch, and Goodwin you aren't going to see three guards who play better defense. Ford said Goodwins defense has really improved.
  28. davidnark

    GDT - Bills dam up the Beavers

    ??? Where you there? The crowd was quite loud the last 5 minutes.
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