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Everything posted by brianstl

  1. But is he using the chicken or the egg as the bait?
  2. Fair enough. I always enjoy our exchanges even when we disagree.
  3. Everything can be negotiated and Comcast Spectacor has financial interest in keeping SLU happy. Chaifetz is among the most attended venues it's size for concert's and another non SLU events. Comcast Spectacor wants to keep operating the venue beyond their current deal. If SLU wanted to, they could get Comcast Spectacor to address the concession prices for SLU basketball games. Both the men's and the women's. It isn't like they have to manually change the price boards between events.
  4. I don't mean to be a dick, but you said no one is dropping concession prices. I gave two examples from the past twelve months (one that just happened today) and then you try to move the goal posts. I can give you multiple other examples that have happened in the past 12 months. I can give you even more examples if you would like to extend the timeline out to the last three years. Multiple sports programs both college and pro have dropped concession prices over the last several years. But you can always keep changing the parameters of what you want to discuss if you want to be able to make excuses for not acting to address declining attendance.
  5. These concession price reductions were announced by the Houston Texans just today. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/08/09/Facilities/Texans-reduce-popular-concessions-prices.aspx
  6. Georgia cut concession prices on many items almost 50% last season. $2 Bottled water, $2.50 bottled soda, $2.50 hot dogs, $2 candy, $2 for a small popcorn and $5 for a large popcorn bucket.
  7. I won't forgive Finley Bizjack for choosing not to become a Billiken. Vice good, Bizjack bad.
  8. This is a kid the staff has been on for almost a year. I like this commit. https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/high-school/2022/07/04/tssaa-basketball-what-brock-vice-learned-houston-state-championship-season/7661249001/
  9. The Cardinals are averaging more fans per game this season with every home game broadcast in one manner or another than they did in the early 2000's in a bigger stadium without every home game broadcast.
  10. SLU addressed this somewhat inadvertently by having to reduce the arena's capacity because they forgot about the practice facility. Also, TV is a double edge sword. It might keep some people home, but it exposes your product to a large amount of potential costumers. The key is marketing the product correctly to give those people a reason to sample the product in person and then delivering a product that makes them willing to pay again after they attend in person. Plenty of pro and college programs have been successful in doing it.
  11. That is great to hear and they are correct. We are going to be really good.
  12. I have no clue what our attendance will be this season. I would love for it to be great. I haven't heard anything suggesting that there has been any increase in demand for season tickets. Maybe there has been. I would hope so, but the history with this program has been a dramatic increase in attendance follows a NCAA appearance with attendance declining each year we are further removed from the NCAA tournament. A really good team really only supplies a small boost in attendance during that season.
  13. We had two seasons under Spoon where we averaged almost 18,000 a game.
  14. I provided a local example of a team SLU competes directly with for using the percentage I did. You provided UK over 3 games as an example to counter my claim not realizing UK's overall attendance drop last season further justified my 4% number. UK's attendance decline was exactly 4% overall last season from the pre COVID season. I thought I pointed that at in my post by saying Kentucky wasn't the program you wanted to use to make the argument you are trying to make. I don't see how I am dancing around anything.
  15. I think the biggest thing hurting SLU's attendance is not ticket prices, the Chaifetz experience, lack of enough big time opponents or not winning big enough. We didn't average 85% capacity when we were ranked in the top 10 and had a loaded schedule during the Majerus and Crews run. Ticket prices for the general public are actually less than they were before. Maybe improving the Chaifetz experience would help marginally, but I think any college program in a Major League sports town is going to have an almost impossible task competing against the pro teams when it comes to attracting the audience that is looking for the experience atmosphere event. The problem is that you don't have as many family with kids going to the games as you used to have. This has become a even harder demographic to compete for and you really aren't going to compete for them with the concession prices being what they are. The unpleasant feeling a parent gets when they feel they are constantly being took for every dollar possible leaves you with a bad impression of the whole event and no real desire to return. You could charge higher ticket prices and have parents feel like the are getting a better family experience if they didn't feel like they were getting held up when the buy a pretzel and a bottle of water for their kid.
  16. The cheapest full season ticket package for the 1996-97 season was $120 for the upper deck ends in what is now called Enterprise Center. The cheapest season ticket package now is $100. That 1996-97 price adjusted for inflation is about $227 today. So you can get a much better season ticket now for 56% less than a terrible view would have cost you in 1996.
  17. I remember that. You and your son. That was great.
  18. Kentucky is the program you want to use if you want to make the point you are trying to make. SLU's percentage decline pre COVID season to past COVID season was 5 times that of UK's. Kentucky averaged 20,160 in the 2019-20 season and 19,338 per game last season. That is a 4% decline. SLU averaged 6,880 in the 2019-20 season and 5,517 per game last season. That is 20% decline. http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/2021/Attend.pdf http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
  19. Tickets distributed for the game is how SLU has counted attendance since, I believe, Chaifetz opened. So the fans that have tickets and don’t use them for whatever reason don’t hurt the average attendance total.
  20. Those high numbers are lower than the average numbers under Brad. This isn’t a Travis issue. Travis has prevented the cratering from being worse than it is. This is multi decade failure now on the part of multiple administrations at SLU to properly value and market it’s athletics programs.
  21. You can plot a graph yourself, if you want to. It would show you a 24 year almost uninterrupted persistent decline in average attendance since the Billikens second best attendance season in 1997-98. We have had a total decline of 69% in average attendance since the peak average attendance year of 1995. Over the last four seasons without capacity restrictions, SLU has average 6,059 a game. Those four seasons include the two lowest average attendance seasons since the 1985-86 season. That is a two decade plus pattern of failing to retain your fanbase and failing to attract new people to your fan base. Did COVID have some impact on attendance last season? Sure, at the margins. Just look at the Blues that suffered a 2.1% decline in attendance from pre COVID numbers. Let's be generous to the Billikens and say attendance would have been 4% higher without COVID. That would add 220 people to last seasons attendance figures. So last season would have been the second worst average attendance in the last 36 seasons instead of the worst with 2016-17 becoming the worst.
  22. We averaged 5,517. That number should be a wake up call for the athletic department that they need to do something different to get people in the building. It wasn't just the result of COVID. There has been a steady long term decline in the attendance numbers for a couple decades now. That was are lowest average attendance number since 1985-86. 36 seasons ago. The 85-86 season was the first winning season the Billikens had in 13 seasons.
  23. They should separate organizational culture building inside the AD from the program's outside marketing campaigns. What is good for one is not good for the other in this case.
  24. Nowadays you can identify as whatever you want to.
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