A10Ref Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 52 minutes ago, wgstl said: We’re prob top 15 with just Williams If we also add a serviceable backup PG, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, A10Ref said: If we also add a serviceable backup PG, yes. Shouldn’t be an issue with the hype going into next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Franck Kepnang, 6'10", 208 pound four-star sophomore is also transferring out of Oregon. I know we were inthe recruiting hunt for him two years back. A second Okoro maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Hype, what hype is there in this board at this time of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Old guy said: Hype, what hype is there in this board at this time of the year? Aside from the fact that we’re winning it all next year, what hype are you talking about? Old guy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, Taj79 said: Franck Kepnang, 6'10", 208 pound four-star sophomore is also transferring out of Oregon. I know we were inthe recruiting hunt for him two years back. A second Okoro maybe? We offered him very early on and weren't really a contender down the stretch. Then again, most transfers we end up with aren't guys we were involved with in the first place so who knows. Kepnang's production at Oregon through two seasons was similar to Okoro's. I think probably any objections to the fit would be similar to those raised regarding Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 My semi-realistic best case transfer/recruiting scenario assuming Nesbitt is gone: Eric Williams Jr (Oregon) - starting PF Davion Bradford (K State) - backup C Demarcus Sharp (MO State) - backup PG / combo guard Connor Turnbull (Ft Zumwalt North) - backup / development big SLUMedBilliken15 and CBFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: My semi-realistic best case transfer/recruiting scenario assuming Nesbitt is gone: Eric Williams Jr (Oregon) - starting PF Davion Bradford (K State) - backup C Demarcus Sharp (MO State) - backup PG / combo guard Connor Turnbull (Ft Zumwalt North) - backup / development big Bradford has 3 years of eligibility left. Doubt Turnbull wants the possibility to be 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart for three years. https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/Article/Kansas-State-basketball-transfers-Kaosi-Ezeagu-Davion-Bradford-Maximus-Edwards-185725612/Amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I'm still waiting on the rationale for why hometown kids who didn't pick us in the first place would want to drop down a level and be backup bigs. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I'm still waiting on the rationale for why hometown kids who didn't pick us in the first place would want to drop down a level and be backup bigs. So you're suggesting the staff shouldn't even inquire? Drop down in level from league sure, but not a drop in the quality of team he would be moving to. Adman and Bay Area Billiken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, ACE said: So you're suggesting the staff shouldn't even inquire? Drop down in level from league sure, but not a drop in the quality of team he would be moving to. Agree. SLU was better than K-State and better than Butler last season and will be better than both of those teams next season too. The chance to DANCE next year ..... I say better at SLU in the short-term for sure. Bay Area Billiken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, WVBilliken said: Agree. SLU was better than K-State and better than Butler last season and will be better than both of those teams next season too. The chance to DANCE next year ..... I say better at SLU in the short-term for sure. SLU is popping up in some 2022-23 preseason Top 25 polls already. Is it ridiculous that some members of the media are even putting these out this early? - of course - but it can't hurt in the recruiting pitch that some folks on the national scene are recognizing the potential of the team. TheA_Bomb likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, RUBillsFan said: My semi-realistic best case transfer/recruiting scenario assuming Nesbitt is gone: Eric Williams Jr (Oregon) - starting PF Davion Bradford (K State) - backup C Demarcus Sharp (MO State) - backup PG / combo guard Connor Turnbull (Ft Zumwalt North) - backup / development big I would much rather have Bradford or Turnbull for multiple years as opposed to Williams. I don't think you could land both Bradford and Turnbull with playing time concerns. In realistic terms, the #1 big you bring in is going to be the only one who can expect consistent playing time next year. I think the back-up PG you bring in will get even less time than DeAndre did this year because with Perkins back, you'd have the ability to let him bring the ball down on occasion ala Nesbitt this year. Jimerson, Parker, Hargrove, Yuri, Javonte, Thatch, Okoro, + New Big. I'm not sure Ford is going to go much deeper than eight. I'd shoot for another impact big and then look for DeAndre-types for back-up PG and back-up forward, particularly if Ford is going to stick with one big rotations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, ACE said: So you're suggesting the staff shouldn't even inquire? Drop down in level from league sure, but not a drop in the quality of team he would be moving to. Yep. A chance to play for preseason Top 25 team? Most definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 What credible site is listing us as a top 25 team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, slu72 said: What credible site is listing us as a top 25 team? I’ll answer myself that ESPN today listed us at 25. cgeldmacher and Fraz like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, ACE said: So you're suggesting the staff shouldn't even inquire? Drop down in level from league sure, but not a drop in the quality of team he would be moving to. That's logical. Not sure how convincing it is to young men who bypassed good mid-major teams to play for bad high-majors. But it's logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I see a few reasons Bradford might want to come to SLU 1. Home 2. Better team with a better shot to dance 3. Minutes available - Though we may think he'd play behind Okoro, he may not. He may believe he's good enough to be the 25 mpg game and Okoro gets fewer minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: That's logical. Not sure how convincing it is to young men who bypassed good mid-major teams to play for bad high-majors. But it's logical. Also, we would have to sell him on being a back-up for one year (although an important role with good minutes) and then be the likely starter two years after that. If that doesn't appeal to him, then on to the next one. I trust Ford will get a quality player in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, Bilzz said: I would much rather have Bradford or Turnbull for multiple years as opposed to Williams. I don't think you could land both Bradford and Turnbull with playing time concerns. In realistic terms, the #1 big you bring in is going to be the only one who can expect consistent playing time next year. I think the back-up PG you bring in will get even less time than DeAndre did this year because with Perkins back, you'd have the ability to let him bring the ball down on occasion ala Nesbitt this year. Jimerson, Parker, Hargrove, Yuri, Javonte, Thatch, Okoro, + New Big. I'm not sure Ford is going to go much deeper than eight. I'd shoot for another impact big and then look for DeAndre-types for back-up PG and back-up forward, particularly if Ford is going to stick with one big rotations. Respectfully disagree. Williams is the only realistic one that makes us better relative to last year rather than just filling a hole (clip that off) Bradford also does as well to a lesser extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: I trust Ford will get a quality player in that role. 100%. If you can’t trust Ford this time of year, then maybe this sport isn’t for you Fraz likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 These transfer threads always remind me of George Costanza's "I think I may have found a way to get Griffey and Bonds in the same outfield!" quote. BilliesBy40, NextYearBill, Bizziken and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Littlebill said: Respectfully disagree. Williams is the only realistic one that makes us better rather than just filling a hole (clip that off) Right. SLU needs, and has needed, a starting level PF since the Majerus days. That is what makes next year's team elite. Would love a Cody Ellis type to go with Okoro ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bilzz said: I would much rather have Bradford or Turnbull for multiple years as opposed to Williams. I don't think you could land both Bradford and Turnbull with playing time concerns. In realistic terms, the #1 big you bring in is going to be the only one who can expect consistent playing time next year. I think the back-up PG you bring in will get even less time than DeAndre did this year because with Perkins back, you'd have the ability to let him bring the ball down on occasion ala Nesbitt this year. Jimerson, Parker, Hargrove, Yuri, Javonte, Thatch, Okoro, + New Big. I'm not sure Ford is going to go much deeper than eight. I'd shoot for another impact big and then look for DeAndre-types for back-up PG and back-up forward, particularly if Ford is going to stick with one big rotations. It would be interesting if Ford had the added choices of Turnbull and Bradford how the lineup would look. Would he play 2 bigs, possibly. Turnbull could play a stretch 4 and Bradford subs Okoro. Turnbull is a different type of player than Bradford and Okoro. Okoro is a senior and so is Perkins so there is lots of playing time in the future if they earn it. All of these transfers have to worry about earning playing time not about who else is coming, just beat the other player out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Right. SLU needs, and has needed, a starting level PF since the Majerus days. That is what makes next year's team elite. Would love a Cody Ellis type to go with Okoro ...... Is Williams a PF? Looks like a big guard, small forward to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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