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3 hours ago, 3star_recruit said:

McCall not only contributed immediately, he was our leading scorer as a freshman.  He had already demonstrated his value by his sophomore year.  C'mon man.

He led in scoring in a terrible year where we were playing mostly freshman with Mitchell, Ellis, Conklin Reed hurt or out.  Still got him benched a game his sophomore season.  McCall refused to play defense until about 5 games left his sophomore year.  Majerus stayed with him.

Explain Kyle Cassity?  He barely played his freshman year.  Walk ons were playing over him.  He stayed.

Tell me who were these mythical guards that were 8th and 9th in the rotation that Majerus ran off?

Here are the guards Majerus recruited to SLU

Mitchell, Cassity, Cotto, Salecich, Jordan, Reid, John, Jett, McCall, Barnett, Carter, McBroom

All of them at one time or another were 8th-9th guys except Mitchell.  No one was run off except Salecich.  Cotto quit, Majerus wanted him to stay.  Jordan was booted because of the situation just like Jon Smith.  Jordan sans the situation stays on this squad and would have been good along with Smith. Reid got hurt as did John.

If anything Majerus recruited for the 8th and 9th spot.  He liked decent shooting, over achievers who he could mold into better players.  He loved guys who sat on the bench for a year or two and then really knew his system.

C'mon man.

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43 minutes ago, thetorch said:

He led in scoring in a terrible year where we were playing mostly freshman with Mitchell, Ellis, Conklin Reed hurt or out.  Still got him benched a game his sophomore season.  McCall refused to play defense until about 5 games left his sophomore year.  Majerus stayed with him.

Explain Kyle Cassity?  He barely played his freshman year.  Walk ons were playing over him.  He stayed.

Tell me who were these mythical guards that were 8th and 9th in the rotation that Majerus ran off?

Here are the guards Majerus recruited to SLU

Mitchell, Cassity, Cotto, Salecich, Jordan, Reid, John, Jett, McCall, Barnett, Carter, McBroom

All of them at one time or another were 8th-9th guys except Mitchell.  No one was run off except Salecich.  Cotto quit, Majerus wanted him to stay.  Jordan was booted because of the situation just like Jon Smith.  Jordan sans the situation stays on this squad and would have been good along with Smith. Reid got hurt as did John.

If anything Majerus recruited for the 8th and 9th spot.  He liked decent shooting, over achievers who he could mold into better players.  He loved guys who sat on the bench for a year or two and then really knew his system.

C'mon man.

 

Not that it matters, but I thought Justin Jordan was run off (in April) to make room for either Jett or Loe BEFORE the situation happened.

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14 hours ago, Duff Man said:

 

Not that it matters, but I thought Justin Jordan was run off (in April) to make room for either Jett or Loe BEFORE the situation happened.

I believe both Jordan and Smith had announced their intention to transfer before Situation 1 rolled through the campus.  That's why we were dismayed only about Mitchell and Reed.

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47 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said:

I believe both Jordan and Smith had announced their intention to transfer before Situation 1 rolled through the campus.  That's why we were dismayed only about Mitchell and Reed.

Timeline that I can cobble together based on news reports:

4/26/2010 - Justin Jordan transfer (per our old friend Nate Latsch at the now defunct BillikenReport - https://247sports.com/college/saint-louis/Article/SLU-Freshman-Guard-To-Transfer-104706430/_ Article mentions a logjam at guard and Jordan's season ending injury (which I had forgotten all about).  Those may have contributed to his transfer.

4/29/2010 - Jon Smith transfer (per old pal Tom Timmerman at the PD https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/moving-day-at-slu-jett-signs-smith-leaves/article_96bd8b73-e3e2-5f4e-9e89-f5226cc6fe20.html) "Smith was concerned about his potential lack of playing time"

5/1/2010 - Situation 1 occurred

I didn't find out which players were involved until much later.  I know some posters had inside info, but I'd imagine a lot of people were in the same boat as me.  As such, I wrongly assumed that the transfers were after the incident and the guys were transferring because of that.

Regardless, it is safe to say based on reports of how the incident unfolded that these two guys were bad news.  There may well have been other issues that we didn't know about and I don't fault Majerus for encouraging their transfers if that was the case.

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I recently looked up Ty Graves. Forgot about him since he never actually played here. He really has had a disappointing career. Not very productive at NC Central. He comes off the bench. Bishop turned out to be a much more productive player.

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One of our Never Were's, Adonys Henriquez has drifted over to Spain after a time in the Dominican Pro League.  Last I saw he was averaging about 12 ppg in their LEB Gold League.  I think LEB is the second division league in Spain, after LIGA.

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1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

One of our Never Were's, Adonys Henriquez has drifted over to Spain after a time in the Dominican Pro League.  Last I saw he was averaging about 12 ppg in their LEB Gold League.  I think LEB is the second division league in Spain, after LIGA.

Ford said he might be the best shooter he ever recruited or some such hyperbole if memory serves.

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