gobillsgo Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, wgstl said: Perhaps Justin and Larry can help with this as well Has Justin Tatum ever shown any willingness to push his son or any of his players toward SLU? Apart from LHJ (and I doubt it was Justin guiding him to SLU) who is the last CBC grad to play for us? Not being a smart a** on either question, I’m genuinely asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Be very surprised if Love visits SLU. I heard yesterday he might transfer to FSU and that would make sense he'd sign on with another P-5 program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Caleb can be a really good player, he can also kill a team. I'm on the fence(if we even have a chance)because of this. I wonder if Ford is willing to take the risk. this could cost him a job - could also save him. I know this sounds obvious, but I do wonder if Ford would even take the chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, gobillsgo said: Has Justin Tatum ever shown any willingness to push his son or any of his players toward SLU? Apart from LHJ (and I doubt it was Justin guiding him to SLU) who is the last CBC grad to play for us? Not being a smart a** on either question, I’m genuinely asking. The Jayson situation was tricky. While yes that would have been awesome, if he was my son and crews was the coach I'd really have to look into playing elsewhere. As for Love, it was known from the beginning he wanted to play at a big program, nothing could be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Love had an incredible NCAA tournament run last year & hit an iconic shot in an iconic game. Outside of March / April 2022, he was mostly objectively bad his entire UNC career. Career shooing line FG% - 36%, 2 pt FG% - 39.7%, 3pt FG% - 31.7%, FT% - 81.5. With the except of the FT%, I'm guessing Wiz would tell you those are all Fs. Career assists & rebounds are both 3.3 per game. Career assist to T/O ratio 1.2. I wouldn't consider Jordan Goodwin a good shooter at all. Here is is career line at SLU. FG% - 42.3%, 2pt FG% - 42.3%, 3pt FG% 27.1. I understand the competition levels are different, but IMO Love like Jordan Goodwin on offense with more volume & worse shot selection, worse finishing at the rim, better 3pt shooting, worse PG skills, and nowhere near the effort/motor & rebounding. I'm saying Goodwin is / was a much better player overall despite being similarly inefficient on offense. I'd take Love in a heartbeat, but acting like he's too good for SLU is a little crazy. I don't know what is going on with Love or if we have any chance with him. That said, if you have a real chance to get Caleb Love... You better do everything you can to get him. I don't care about his numbers at UNC. I know his talent and he would instantly be the best guard in the A10. Just as important, Caleb would instantly change how recruits and college basketball players across the country view the program. Coach314, Zink, Young Charles and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludevil Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, brianstl said: I don't know what is going on with Love or if we have any chance with him. That said, if you have a real chance to get Caleb Love... You better do everything you can to get him. I don't care about his numbers at UNC. I know his talent and he would instantly be the best guard in the A10. Just as important, Caleb would instantly change how recruits and college basketball players across the country view the program. I agree with your second point far more than your first. For almost his entire career, Love has wavered between average to actively harmful to his team. Maybe some of that is a product of his environment, teammates, etc., but outside of a very limited window last year, there's not much in his college track record to suggest that he can be a positive player over the course of a season. With that said, he was still a multi-year starter for a blue blood program (and a top HS recruit), so I agree that a transfer to SLU would probably generate positive headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatskablamo Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said: At least that would make for an amusing season. She would definitely fill a few hole(s) in our roster. BrettJollyComedyHour and Fraz like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Love has shown willingness to take over games in a not good way, like Yuri. I'm worried Ford would give Love the same treatment Yuri got, which we know was not ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, thatskablamo said: She would definitely fill a few hole(s) in our roster. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The fans at any power conference school in the country will only be mildly excited about Caleb coming to their program after his performance last season. The fans in his hometown would be over the moon if he came here. I hope he thinks to himself that he is better off showcasing what he can do against lesser competition in the A-10 than in the grinder that is the ACC or other conferences like Big10 or Big12. I don't think it's that crazy to believe that there is a chance he could come home to play for the Billikens. Signing him could start the snowball rolling downhill for signing other transfers who want to come in and put together a team that can make a run in the tournament without having to fight their way through a big conference schedule (see San Diego State, FAU, Gonzaga, Princeton, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, gabriel said: I wouldn't put our chances at zero. He was objectively bad this year at UNC and the fans let him know about it. Might want to go to a school where he can take 20 shots without the national pressure and develop his shot more before making a run at the league. Yeah, no pressure here. Here at Billiken's com it's one big holding hands prayer group. No animosity at all dennis_w, rgbilliken and JMM28 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 He will go where he's going to be making the most money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Yeah, no pressure here. Here at Billiken's com it's one big holding hands prayer group. No animosity at all that made me smile a little, thanks roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said: The fans at any power conference school in the country will only be mildly excited about Caleb coming to their program after his performance last season. The fans in his hometown would be over the moon if he came here. I hope he thinks to himself that he is better off showcasing what he can do against lesser competition in the A-10 than in the grinder that is the ACC or other conferences like Big10 or Big12. I don't think it's that crazy to believe that there is a chance he could come home to play for the Billikens. Signing him could start the snowball rolling downhill for signing other transfers who want to come in and put together a team that can make a run in the tournament without having to fight their way through a big conference schedule (see San Diego State, FAU, Gonzaga, Princeton, etc.) agreed, a love commit would put us on the map in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 He could wear Justin Love's jersey, wouldn't have to change it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Why couldn't you just post the title of this thread as a reply to the 23 portal/transfer thread tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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juniorbill76 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Why couldn't you just post the title of this thread as a reply to the 23 portal/transfer thread tho? Because, silly, Caleb probably only checks billikens.com a few times a day and he might have missed it if it was buried in that thread. JMM28, Zink, Fraz and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: He will go where he's going to be making the most money. Yes, and we would have to spend our budget on him, which we shouldn’t even think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: Love had an incredible NCAA tournament run last year & hit an iconic shot in an iconic game. Outside of March / April 2022, he was mostly objectively bad his entire UNC career. Career shooing line FG% - 36%, 2 pt FG% - 39.7%, 3pt FG% - 31.7%, FT% - 81.5. With the except of the FT%, I'm guessing Wiz would tell you those are all Fs. Career assists & rebounds are both 3.3 per game. Career assist to T/O ratio 1.2. I wouldn't consider Jordan Goodwin a good shooter at all. Here is is career line at SLU. FG% - 42.3%, 2pt FG% - 42.3%, 3pt FG% 27.1. I understand the competition levels are different, but IMO Love like Jordan Goodwin on offense with more volume & worse shot selection, worse finishing at the rim, better 3pt shooting, worse PG skills, and nowhere near the effort/motor & rebounding. I'm saying Goodwin is / was a much better player overall despite being similarly inefficient on offense. I'd take Love in a heartbeat, but acting like he's too good for SLU is a little crazy. I wasn't going to check your numbers but I noticed on your Goodwin slash you had FG% and 2P% as the same which can't be if 3P% is lower. I am sure it was just a typo...Here is what I have for Goodwin .............42.3/47.2/ 27.1/ 58....which grades out as D+ / D / F- / F-. Here are the grades on Love (numbers look OK)....................................................................F- / F- / D / A+. I agree with you on taking Love...on the chance he returns to form and starts shooting 3s again at a B level (36%)and FTs when he was ranked 91st ITN (A+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, wgstl said: Love has shown willingness to take over games in a not good way, like Yuri. I'm worried Ford would give Love the same treatment Yuri got, which we know was not ideal. Caleb Love can get that treatment. 3 star pass-only recruits should never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dlarry Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, wgstl said: Caleb can be a really good player, he can also kill a team. I'm on the fence(if we even have a chance)because of this. I wonder if Ford is willing to take the risk. this could cost him a job - could also save him. I know this sounds obvious, but I do wonder if Ford would even take the chance Welp now you’ve done it! Any chance we had at him you just pissed away. I read on this board that recruits read this stuff and are so soft that any negativity will scare them off. Thanks a lot!! wgstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 13 hours ago, dlarry said: Welp now you’ve done it! Any chance we had at him you just pissed away. I read on this board that recruits read this stuff and are so soft that any negativity will scare them off. Thanks a lot!! diary...Caleb Love would be nice for SLU but you shouldn't get your hopes too high. Lot's of Power 5 U's also want him too, and in UNC he's leaving a basketball U with a whole bunch of success in their past. No substantiated rumor on any leader so far, but it will be interesting to see who wins the NIL battle for his services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 hours ago, wgstl said: Caleb can be a really good player, he can also kill a team. I'm on the fence(if we even have a chance)because of this. I wonder if Ford is willing to take the risk. this could cost him a job - could also save him. I know this sounds obvious, but I do wonder if Ford would even take the chance It’s impossible to kill a team that is already dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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