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Hard to believe Travis would keep Jacobs out of such a big game as St. B's because of a team rules violation. I wonder if this suspension might not have been taken out of Ford's bailiwick. Don't mean to imply this is anything like a Sit 2 or Sit 1, as I don't think he would have been sitting on the bench if it was, but it might well be some school or academic problem. A missed practice or being late for a bus ride wouldn't make sense for a coach to keep him out of a really key game. 

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4 minutes ago, slu72 said:

Hard to believe Travis would keep Jacobs out of such a big game as St. B's because of a team rules violation

If you dont, you lose control. 

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My guess is Demarius missed the bus or practice (Perhaps not for the first time, idk) and Travis isn’t going to say he’s back until he’s actually back, which I expect to be the saint Bonaventure game. We shouldn’t read too much into it imo 

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29 minutes ago, slu72 said:

Hard to believe Travis would keep Jacobs out of such a big game as St. B's because of a team rules violation. I wonder if this suspension might not have been taken out of Ford's bailiwick. Don't mean to imply this is anything like a Sit 2 or Sit 1, as I don't think he would have been sitting on the bench if it was, but it might well be some school or academic problem. A missed practice or being late for a bus ride wouldn't make sense for a coach to keep him out of a really key game. 

Jesus Smykowski, quit jumping to conclusions.

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4 hours ago, cheeseman said:

 SLU has always said since the Upchurch issue that any player that meets the NCAA standards for admission meets ours. Has this changed?

I am not familiar with Upchurch or that case, but meeting NCAA standards is not a high bar.  Yes, our staff does a great job of helping, encouraging, tutoring and so on.  but a kid still has to have both desire and some decent preparation to succeed at SLU.  And it varies a lot from professor to prof, how much and how hard a kid must work for a C or higher.  But in small classes (all of them in my dept. but not all of them in every dept.), cutting a few unexcused or not turning in work on time gets noticed, pretty quickly.

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14 minutes ago, DoctorB said:

I am not familiar with Upchurch or that case, but meeting NCAA standards is not a high bar.  Yes, our staff does a great job of helping, encouraging, tutoring and so on.  but a kid still has to have both desire and some decent preparation to succeed at SLU.  And it varies a lot from professor to prof, how much and how hard a kid must work for a C or higher.  But in small classes (all of them in my dept. but not all of them in every dept.), cutting a few unexcused or not turning in work on time gets noticed, pretty quickly.

Upchurch was  a case where he attended a summer program and was told he would need some help to make it through SLU classes, so he wasnt admitted. Went to Houston and if a I remember correctly was all southwest conference a couple of times.Set the program back quite a bit likely cost a tournament appearance or two. Been a long time so the details are a bit fuzzy. correct me if i missed something

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Just now, dennis_w said:

Upchurch was  a case where he attended a summer program and was told he would need some help to make it through SLU classes, so he wasnt admitted. Went to Houston and if a I remember correctly was all southwest conference a couple of times.Set the program back quite a bit likely cost a tournament appearance or two. Been a long time so the details are a bit fuzzy. correct me if i missed something

Can we just agree to forget the past?  The upchurch fiasco makes my head hurt.  I need a SOMA.....

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2 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said:

Can we just agree to forget the past?  The upchurch fiasco makes my head hurt.  I need a SOMA.....

DR B brought up the upchurch fiasco, so i thought maybe he might want to know. You are certainly welcome to forget whatever you want or not read the post. your choice

 

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2 hours ago, dennis_w said:

DR B brought up the upchurch fiasco, so i thought maybe he might want to know. You are certainly welcome to forget whatever you want or not read the post. your choice

 

Cheeseman brought it up. I thought the issue was that he was told if he passed a particular summer course he would be eligible and after he did, they reneged on the deal.

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2 hours ago, dennis_w said:

Upchurch was  a case where he attended a summer program and was told he would need some help to make it through SLU classes, so he wasnt admitted. Went to Houston and if a I remember correctly was all southwest conference a couple of times.Set the program back quite a bit likely cost a tournament appearance or two. Been a long time so the details are a bit fuzzy. correct me if i missed something

Upchurch was told that if he completed the summer program successfully then he would be admitted.  He did as required but a dean - Father Gannon I believe - overruled it saying he was not satisfied.  Grawer was livid as was everyone else involved.  After that the school went to the  if you meet the NCAA standards then a player can be admitted.  

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Just now, cheeseman said:

Upchurch was told that if he completed the summer program successfully then he would be admitted.  He did as required but a dean - Father Gannon I believe - overruled it saying he was not satisfied.  Grawer was livid as was everyone else involved.  After that the school went to the  if you meet the NCAA standards then a player can be admitted.  

That was the start of Grawer’s downfall. He had gotten the best player out of the PHL(the league in St. Louis at the time) three years running and that killed his ability to recruit it.

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Just now, kmbilliken said:

That was the start of Grawer’s downfall. He had gotten the best player out of the PHL(the league in St. Louis at the time) three years running and that killed his ability to recruit it.

Exactly. It went beyond the loss of Upchurch, as big a loss as that was.

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1 hour ago, kmbilliken said:

That was the start of Grawer’s downfall. He had gotten the best player out of the PHL(the league in St. Louis at the time) three years running and that killed his ability to recruit it.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/sports_columnists/inside_sports/year-anniversary-all-star-boys-basketball-team/article_1dc92ff0-c0a5-11e1-b24b-0019bb2963f4.html
Bonner graduated Vashon in1986 and Craig Upchurch graduated from Beaumont in 1987. Imagine both in a Billiken uniform along with Roland Gray and Monroe Douglas McKinley graduates in 1985. We were always one guy short of greatness.  One guy short of matching up against Xavier who had both Derek Strong and Tyrone Hill. Only 1 team made the NCAA Tournament every year. What could have been...

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On 3/6/2020 at 10:01 PM, Clock_Tower said:

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/sports_columnists/inside_sports/year-anniversary-all-star-boys-basketball-team/article_1dc92ff0-c0a5-11e1-b24b-0019bb2963f4.html
Bonner graduated Vashon in1986 and Craig Upchurch graduated from Beaumont in 1987. Imagine both in a Billiken uniform along with Roland Gray and Monroe Douglas McKinley graduates in 1985. We were always one guy short of greatness.  One guy short of matching up against Xavier who had both Derek Strong and Tyrone Hill. Only 1 team made the NCAA Tournament every year. What could have been...

We would have had multiple NCAA berths and been able to attract Jahidi White, then Carrawell & Woods.  Cardinal Ritter coaching staff wanted their stars to go to SLU.  

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Coach Ford on KMOX this morning.  Talked about next year.  No new news.

He got about 100 texts yesterday when they were replaying the Duke -  KY 1992 game on TV.  He played, he thinks, 10 or 11 minutes that game.  KY went to the Final Four the next season at the Superdome, beating Majerus's Utah on their way. 

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