gobillsgo Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, slufanskip said: 85/249 for 36% and 20/78 for 26%. Not saying Fords not ultimately responsible but you aren’t winning on the road vs Maryland, Auburn, and Iona much less at home against a good Boise St team shooting like that. It’s not like they haven’t had plenty of decent looks either. Their inside game stinks. Okoro can’t hit a layup. Forester has hands of stone. Yuri is trying too much to make something happen when we can’t hit a shot and he can’t shoot any better than the rest of the guards. Ford’s team, he’s accountable but players also have to play up to their capability. And please don’t start with the coach ‘em up or make adjustments or motivate them BS. You’ve seen the games, we’ve had open looks and just missed over and over again. That part isn’t coaching. The players and the coach have all failed so far Lack of performance in the big moment has plagued Ford’s teams his entire SLU tenure. Obviously he isn’t directly responsible for each instance of poor play (thinking of FTs at Auburn). As others have mentioned in the past, how a team handles adversity is almost always a reflection of their leaders. I make leaders plural because it’s not just on Ford. Yuri and Gibson should be considered leaders of this team and they have not been good enough when we’ve needed them to in the big moments. With that said, Ford is captain of the ship and as such should shoulder the largest responsibility for failures. If the players are incapable of being coached in-game, then Travis isn’t nearly as good of a recruiter as we’ve been led to believe. It’s high-major D1 basketball. Luckily for Travis, I don’t make the coaching decisions. If I did, he’d have been gone after Saturday, if his sorry a** wasn’t already left in New Rochelle. There’s been an excuse for every failure of his entire tenure until now… I’m sick of the excuses. Bizziken 1 Quote
Old guy Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Billikenbooster said: Im 75….what are the chances? mhg Assuming we both die at the same age, you have an extra year to see it. Quote
Billiken Rich Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, slu72 said: Any suggestions? Chris Beard may be available soon...... Quote
SLU-Geo Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 I have high goals for SLU: 1. 1st or 2nd in the A10 three + years in a row; 2. Make some noise in post season; 3. Then move to Big East. That's my ultimate goal and the dream. Is Ford the guy to achieve this goal? Doesn't look like it and that's disappointing. Chris Mack is that guy, IMO. Maybe the SLU program has different goals, and that too is disappointing. I'll still buy my tickets, be a rabid fan, and enjoy the show, but I'll just know that SLU is just playing for another 4th - 6th place in the A10 and an possible NIT bid with Ford at the helm. Bizziken and BC1764 2 Quote
Bay Area Billiken Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, slufanskip said: 85/249 for 36% and 20/78 for 26%. Not saying Fords not ultimately responsible but you aren’t winning on the road vs Maryland, Auburn, and Iona much less at home against a good Boise St team shooting like that. It’s not like they haven’t had plenty of decent looks either. Their inside game stinks. Okoro can’t hit a layup. Forester has hands of stone. Yuri is trying too much to make something happen when we can’t hit a shot and he can’t shoot any better than the rest of the guards. Ford’s team, he’s accountable but players also have to play up to their capability. And please don’t start with the coach ‘em up or make adjustments or motivate them BS. You’ve seen the games, we’ve had open looks and just missed over and over again. That part isn’t coaching. The players and the coach have all failed so far I think the shooting woes are in their heads, a mental issue at this point. They're thinking too much. It's like Yogi Berra said, you can't hit and think at the same time. You have to just let it flow. Billikenbooster, slufanskip and billikenbill 3 Quote
slufanskip Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, gobillsgo said: Lack of performance in the big moment has plagued Ford’s teams his entire SLU tenure. Obviously he isn’t directly responsible for each instance of poor play (thinking of FTs at Auburn). As others have mentioned in the past, how a team handles adversity is almost always a reflection of their leaders. I make leaders plural because it’s not just on Ford. Yuri and Gibson should be considered leaders of this team and they have not been good enough when we’ve needed them to in the big moments. With that said, Ford is captain of the ship and as such should shoulder the largest responsibility for failures. If the players are incapable of being coached in-game, then Travis isn’t nearly as good of a recruiter as we’ve been led to believe. It’s high-major D1 basketball. Luckily for Travis, I don’t make the coaching decisions. If I did, he’d have been gone after Saturday, if his sorry a** wasn’t already left in New Rochelle. There’s been an excuse for every failure of his entire tenure until now… I’m sick of the excuses. I don’t think it’s actually lucky for Travis as there is no chance you have the ability or the knowledge to make coaching decisions at the D1 level. I didn’t absolve Coach, nor do I want to. He assembled the team. Poor shooting which has been the biggest problem in these losses has nothing to do with in game coaching. And sorry but regardless of what we want to be SLU is not High-Major D1 basketball Quote
BC1764 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 The Atlantic 10 is a high mid major league. STOP lowering the standards. Quote
White Pelican Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, BC1764 said: The Atlantic 10 is a high mid major league. STOP lowering the standards. I think it's more a mid high mid major. Or a low high major in it's better years. In down years, it seems to me to be a low mid low high major. These "standards" (and I use the term loosely) are very flexible. More like OPINIONS actually. Quote
BC1764 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 “Maybe the SLU program has different goals, and that too is disappointing. I'll still buy my tickets, be a rabid fan, and enjoy the show, but I'll just know that SLU is just playing for another 4th - 6th place in the A10 and an possible NIT bid with Ford at the helm.” Most fans love that though. That’s how they justify keeping Ford around. See above for an example. Quote
gobillsgo Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, slufanskip said: I don’t think it’s actually lucky for Travis as there is no chance you have the ability or the knowledge to make coaching decisions at the D1 level. I didn’t absolve Coach, nor do I want to. He assembled the team. Poor shooting which has been the biggest problem in these losses has nothing to do with in game coaching. And sorry but regardless of what we want to be SLU is not High-Major D1 basketball Wouldn’t that make him even luckier I’m not making the decisions, then? Because 100% he’d have been unemployed by 11pm Saturday if it were up to me. Most pathetic consecutive performances I’ve ever seen from a supposed conference favorite. Quote
Marlow Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Which players on this team have progressed since last year/beginning of this year? Quote
TheChosenOne Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Bring on former Cardinal Ritter teammate Jahidi White as an assistant, but mostly to just scare the sh*it out of opposing players (note: I have no idea what White is currently doing or if he's involved with basketball at all but I saw him at 3 Kings a few years ago and the dude is an absolute giant). Jahidi has twin boys who are freshmen at Chaminade. The three of them were in the section behind the bench at the Tennessee State game the other week. Slu let the dogs out? 1 Quote
slufan13 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 It's pretty simple for me. Make the NCAA this year and Ford sticks around and I think we ascend more. Miss the tournament and you gotta move on from him brianstl, Bizziken, stmdragons and 2 others 5 Quote
thunderdan Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Marlow said: Which players on this team have progressed since last year/beginning of this year? Some (like Okoro) have actually gotten worse. Bills By 40 1 Quote
Old guy Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, White Pelican said: I think it's more a mid high mid major. Or a low high major in it's better years. In down years, it seems to me to be a low mid low high major. These "standards" (and I use the term loosely) are very flexible. More like OPINIONS actually. Why make this as complicated as the new gender pronoun dictionary. A10 is what it is, if we are in it, it is because we want to be in it and they do not want us out. Dr. Holly Hills and HoosierPal 2 Quote
Fraz Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Marlow said: Which players on this team have progressed since last year/beginning of this year? Thatch has been pretty good and so has Yuri. Pickett is also playing the best ball of his career. Let Perkins rest until he’s healthy - he’s not half the player he was Quote
BJK Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 We have only lost to teams that are ahead of us in KenPom. We have a tough schedule (32) and if anything it sets us up for success in a down year A10. Let’s just win the damn conference. CBFan, AnkielBreakers, BrettJollyComedyHour and 2 others 5 Quote
slufanskip Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 13 hours ago, BC1764 said: The Atlantic 10 is a high mid major league. STOP lowering the standards. So how many leagues each year are high major? 8,9,10? That’s cool how you capitalize stop. I mean heck if you say it with that much emphasis it must be true. Billiken Rich 1 Quote
wgstl Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 FG % for our guys the first 11 games of last year to the first 9 games this year(SOS is about even that way) Last year This year Gibby 43% 45% +2% Yuri 41% 40% -1% THJ 47% 41% -6% Okoro 56% 48% -8% Fred 60% 48% -12% Quote
Billiken Rich Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, wgstl said: FG % for our guys the first 11 games of last year to the first 9 games this year(SOS is about even that way) Last year This year Gibby 43% 45% +2% Yuri 41% 40% -1% THJ 47% 41% -6% Okoro 56% 48% -8% Fred 60% 48% -12% We have played some elite level defensive teams this year although that doesn't totally explain Okoro's loss of touch around the rim...... Quote
wgstl Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: We have played some elite level defensive teams this year although that doesn't totally explain Okoro's loss of touch around the rim...... 1-6 against Murray 3-8 against SIU. 2-5 against TSU Quote
Billiken Rich Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, wgstl said: 1-6 against Murray 3-8 against SIU. 2-5 against TSU I agree.....not good Quote
wgstl Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: I agree.....not good Fred may be the biggest disappointment of all. Quote
dlarry Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, wgstl said: Fred may be the biggest disappointment of all. For me it’s Okoro. I had such high expectations for him and it hasn’t been close. Quote
wgstl Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, dlarry said: For me it’s Okoro. I had such high expectations for him and it hasn’t been close. No one was better than Fred in conference play last year for us, so I thought we would see it carry into this year. Okoro I can see why people would say that, its almost 1a/b. Quote
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