Former Billikens Updates

[Cowboy II]

29 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Thanks for the update.

I couldn't find what was going on with Kramer, so that makes sense. Hopefully he makes it back to 100%. Back issues are tricky.

Mary Baldwin has only admitted male students since 2017 so they're not exactly a powerhouse, even at the D-III level. Although they are 3-4, which isn't bad for a new program. Fighting Squirrels is a top-tier nickname.

-indeed

[almaman]

On 11/28/2023 at 10:43 AM, billiken_roy said:

just shaking my head on Gordon..........beyond sad to see that talent wasted.   

but a great story. when ur off court issues r in court u b having issues. 

[ACE]

CJ Noland, Forte and North Texas have been rather ho-him. 5-5 including a loss to Fordham.

[billikenbill]

23 hours ago, ACE said:

CJ Noland, Forte and North Texas have been rather ho-him. 5-5 including a loss to Fordham.

Noland = tool, Forte = tool, North Texas State = toolshed.

[OkieBilliken]

3 minutes ago, billikenbill said:

Noland = tool, Forte = tool, North Texas State = toolshed.

I went to a game in the "Super Pit" a couple of years ago, UNT's home court.   If they were going for the dark, dank, empty, depressing vibe, they accomplished it.   

[3star_recruit]

23 hours ago, ACE said:

CJ Noland, Forte and North Texas have been rather ho-him. 5-5 including a loss to Fordham.

Tim Dalger was definitely a better pickup.  But hey, Noland does have more assists so shout out to him.

[Lord Elrond]

On 12/18/2023 at 9:29 AM, ACE said:

CJ Noland, Forte and North Texas have been rather ho-him. 5-5 including a loss to Fordham.

I hate to point this out, but latest NET rankings:

North Texas - 129

Saint Louis - 216

[Bay Area Billiken]

4 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:

I hate to point this out, but latest NET rankings:

North Texas - 129

Saint Louis - 216

SLU's NET is going to be skewed all season by the 39 point blowout loss at SIUC.

SLU's RPI is 114.  In advance, I know the NCAA uses the NET, and no longer uses the RPI as its College Basketball metric, although the RPI is still used in other sports, such as Soccer.  But the old metric does show how badly the NET is skewed by 1 isolated outlier.  North Texas' RPI is 242.

[brianstl]

21 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

SLU's NET is going to be skewed all season by the 39 point blowout loss at SIUC.

SLU's RPI is 114.  In advance, I know the NCAA uses the NET, and no longer uses the RPI as its College Basketball metric, although the RPI is still used in other sports, such as Soccer.  But the old metric does show how badly the NET is skewed by 1 isolated outlier.  North Texas' RPI is 242.

Margin of victory/loss isn't used in the NET rankings formula.

[Soderball]

On 12/19/2023 at 9:47 AM, Lord Elrond said:

I hate to point this out, but latest NET rankings:

North Texas - 129

Saint Louis - 216

129 is ho-hum.

 

216 requires a few of these.

[Bay Area Billiken]

49 minutes ago, brianstl said:

Margin of victory/loss isn't used in the NET rankings formula.

Actually it is.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2022-12-05/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained

"The NET includes more components than just winning percentage.  It takes into account game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin, net offensive and defensive efficiency, and the quality of wins and losses."  Source is the above link from the NCAA, bold print added for emphasis.

[TMBilliken2013]

22 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

SLU's NET is going to be skewed all season by the 39 point blowout loss at SIUC.

SLU's RPI is 114.  In advance, I know the NCAA uses the NET, and no longer uses the RPI as its College Basketball metric, although the RPI is still used in other sports, such as Soccer.  But the old metric does show how badly the NET is skewed by 1 isolated outlier.  North Texas' RPI is 242.

We lost by almost 20 to Wichita, 10 to Vermont, and only beat Dartmouth by 1. It's more than just the SIUC game in play here. 

[brianstl]

13 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

Actually it is.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2022-12-05/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained

"The NET includes more components than just winning percentage.  It takes into account game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin, net offensive and defensive efficiency, and the quality of wins and losses."  Source is the above link from the NCAA, bold print added for emphasis.

From the article you linked to

"With the changes announced in May 2020, the NET will no longer use winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and scoring margin. The change was made after the committee consulted with Google Cloud Professional Services, which worked with the NCAA to develop the original NET."

[RUBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, brianstl said:

From the article you linked to

"With the changes announced in May 2020, the NET will no longer use winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and scoring margin. The change was made after the committee consulted with Google Cloud Professional Services, which worked with the NCAA to develop the original NET."

They don't directly use scoring margin, but they use net offensive & defensive efficiency which are heavily influenced by the scoring margin.  Regardless, the SIUC game is a massive anchor dragging our NET down because we got our asses handed to us (Wichita State and Vermont were also bad, but not as bad).

[BrettJollyComedyHour]

25 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

Actually it is.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2022-12-05/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained

"The NET includes more components than just winning percentage.  It takes into account game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin, net offensive and defensive efficiency, and the quality of wins and losses."  Source is the above link from the NCAA, bold print added for emphasis.

Having to explain to a coworker the difference between a "good loss" and a "bad win" took awhile lol

[billikenbill]

Good article here about Lassina Traore’s journey to Long Beach where he connected with fellow countryman, Aboubacar Traore. They’re not related although both are from Ivory Coast. 

Last night versus Fullerton State they combined for 39 pts and 39 boards in an 81-71 win. Lassina had 20 and 17. The Beach is 9-4 on the year.

https://www.presstelegram.com/2022/12/28/long-beach-states-traores-reunite-in-unexpected-basketball-journey/amp/

[Slowry]

Not an update but good to see Mike Crawford at the game tonight.

[BrettJollyComedyHour]

10 minutes ago, Slowry said:

Not an update but good to see Mike Crawford at the game tonight.

Is Erin Nelson with him? 

[Slowry]

14 minutes ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said:

Is Erin Nelson with him? 

Not sure but the was a blond woman with him.

[BrettJollyComedyHour]

10 hours ago, Slowry said:

Not sure but the was a blond woman with him.

Yeah that's his wife, former women's player Erin Nelson 

[gobillsgo]

Gonna suck talking about Curcic in this thread the next three years.  Guy has looked like a player every time he’s seen the floor, yet inexplicably cannot get any minutes on our apparently stacked roster. 

[Box and Won]

I watched part of the Missouri State game after ours.  Nick Kramer had 10 points but missed a wide-open shot at a buzzer-beater.

[HoosierPal]

 

[Cowboy II]

-any idea on Becher's earnings at this stop?

[thetorch]

18 minutes ago, Cowboy II said:

-any idea on Becher's earnings at this stop?

Starters all make over 100k on their team.