thetorch Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 I've made some unpopular posts lately but this will be the most unpopular. French is a college graduate pro athlete. He's played Pro ball for two seasons and both seasons have ended with injuries. He's played pro ball for 6 months of the last 20 months and made at a minimum 80k for 6 months of work. That is very conservative. Evans, Jett, Conklin all had debilitating injuries that robbed them of prime playing years. Evans couldn't play his first year out of college. He was a part time trainer and janitor at a gym to make ends meet. None of them asked for handouts. Willie Reed got blackballed by the NBA, lost millions of dollars in contracts and lawsuits and is forced to play in the Baltic states to make ends meet. Again no handouts. Isabell has had multiple injuries, been just plain not paid by teams, cut over and over again. Again no handouts. With these significant injuries, which occurred weeks ago, French needs to contemplate retiring and getting a career in line with his degree. Most Euro teams don't pay for rehab, it is part of the job. The tradeoff is you play for short periods of time and make lots of money, comparatively, to the average person and it is all tax free. A lot of Euro players have side gigs in sales or athletic training or play 2 seasons and not take summers off. I feel bad that French's career may be over but appealing to Billikens fans for $15,000 is in poor taste at best. I'm not telling you how to spend your money but if anyone has a few dollars to spare may I suggest contacting these organizations that are dear to my heart and make a real difference in the St. Louis community for people who need help. Foster & Adoptive Care Coalition St. Louis Area Foodbank St. Louis Oasis Intergenerational Tutoring Burns Recovered Midwest Children's Burn Camp AGB91, JMM28, BilliesBy40 and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 You make unpopular post because you make inaccurate statements. Sometimes, you’re so far off base it’s ridiculous. However, on this one you are spot on. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 https://donate.lovetotherescue.org/give/119312/#!/donation/checkout?c_src=lttr-home The only charity I give to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, thetorch said: He's played pro ball for 6 months of the last 20 months and made at a minimum 80k for 6 months of work. That is very conservative. I agree with all of your post but this is way, way over what he made. Dudes in the British league are making like $2500 a month. I am assuming similar in the Slovenian league that he played in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, JMM28 said: I agree with all of your post but this is way, way over what he made. Dudes in the British league are making like $2500 a month. I am assuming similar in the Slovenian league that he played in. My buddy is an agent for overseas players and played overseas. These figures just aren't accurate. The BBL has a 300k + salary cap with the top import players exempt from that figure. French was most likely exempt, if he wasn't he still had a 40k salary as a star. If he was making the minimum or anywhere close to that he needs a new agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 10 hours ago, thetorch said: My buddy is an agent for overseas players and played overseas. These figures just aren't accurate. The BBL has a 300k + salary cap with the top import players exempt from that figure. French was most likely exempt, if he wasn't he still had a 40k salary as a star. If he was making the minimum or anywhere close to that he needs a new agent. I believe that was changed a few years ago. The top 2 British players on each roster are exempt from that. Hasahn also wasn't a 'star' in that league. He probably made $2500 in USD a month, if that. But he gets housing paid for and lived in an English speaking country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 What degree does he have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Taj79 said: What degree does he have? B.A. Sociology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Didn't know that King Conk played with Wembanyama in France. TheChosenOne and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, crymdg2 said: Didn't know that King Conk played with Wembanyama in France. Probably owes his post-up footwork to Conklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 he can now afford to pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 When Conklin was on Limoges Wemby was on the Jr team and played up on the pro team when he was 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Congrats Franco! almaman, AGB91, Compton and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, crymdg2 said: Congrats Franco! Franco was destined to play in France. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Compton likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Well done! Great to see him get signed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 29, 2023 Author Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 6:18 PM, philliken said: There’s a GoFundMe for Hasahn French to help make ends meet while he’s recovering from his knee injuries. Its sad that pro players have to rely on help when injured. Hope he has a speedy recovery and can get back on the court. Really makes you realize these guys aren’t rolling in it even when they go overseas. https://www.gofundme.com/f/saint-louis-biliken-legend-hasahn-french?utm_medium=email&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_email%2B2300-co-team-welcome Check out French's instagram. He's staying at a resort I'll never be able to afford. Looks like that gofundme really paid off. JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatskablamo Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 4:20 PM, juniorbill76 said: Franco was destined to play in France. Historically, it would have made more sense for Franco to play in Spain. Dictating shot direction, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMS81 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, thatskablamo said: Historically, it would have made more sense for Franco to play in Spain. Dictating shot direction, etc. Some Billiken loyalists might object… thatskablamo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatskablamo Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, SLUMS81 said: Some Billiken loyalists might object… I appreciate your rebuttal… well played! SLUMS81 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 hours ago, SLUMS81 said: Some Billiken loyalists might object… I'd go support him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 crymdg2 and MusicCityBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Cody Ellis retires from Basketball. Played a handful of seasons in the NBL, since then he's been a star in the Aussie minor leagues Warwhick Senators team. Ellis' father played for the Senators for 20 years and continues to coach and serve in the front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 One sophomore night a buddy and I were drinking and messaged Cody to see if he’d sell some signed gear. Still have a signed pair of his shoes and a practice jersey of his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Assume this is a G League deal. Great news for Yuri! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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