BIG BILL FAN Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 9:37 AM, Crewsorlose said: Javonte has attempted 215 3s at SLU and made 78 of them. That's a 36% clip. Nothing special. He's a great mid-range scorer and relatively strong going to the hoop. The emergence of Jimerson, and Okoro, simply means that Perkins gets fewer shots. If he comes back 100%, he's the best player on the team, but it's not "his team." Jimerson is more efficient this year than Perkins was last year. Yuri has doubled his scoring. There just won't be as many shots going around. Jimerson can’t create his shot like Perkins.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, BIG BILL FAN said: Jimerson can’t create his shot like Perkins.. Also Javonte was like atrociously bad his first 12 games of his SLU career and then was lights out. He’s better than a 36% 3 pt shooter. slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowry Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If we have some more transfers is Luke Northweather someone that could be a worth while project? Shoots over 40% from 3 and is 6’10”. I wouldn’t look at him as an immediate impact but someone who bulk up and become something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I am reading these posts and the expectations about Perkins return, plus Perkins playing at his prior level, are soaring. Perkins expects to be released from medical care in June, and expects to be back to 100% by October. I think it is premature, to say the least, to start making plans about how his presence int he team will make us a top team next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Old guy said: I am reading these posts and the expectations about Perkins return, plus Perkins playing at his prior level, are soaring. Perkins expects to be released from medical care in June, and expects to be back to 100% by October. I think it is premature, to say the least, to start making plans about how his presence int he team will make us a top team next season. Unless the surgery made him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 First of all he has to come off medical care, then he has to get back to shape, then and only then can we judge if he is better, stronger, faster, and a better player than he was. I mean, Jesus turned water into wine, why should this guy be unable to improve beyond prior levels. However, as of now, that is the day of SLU's NIT game with UNI, he is not ready to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 players come back from acl all the time, so odds are he will come back just fine,hey maybe better. some posters said fred would never be a player because of illness. he looked pretty good to me rgbilliken and 3star_recruit like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Old guy said: I am reading these posts and the expectations about Perkins return, plus Perkins playing at his prior level, are soaring. Perkins expects to be released from medical care in June, and expects to be back to 100% by October. I think it is premature, to say the least, to start making plans about how his presence int he team will make us a top team next season. I agree. Players sitting out a year for non injuries, usually takes a month, or more of game play to return to their former a level of play. An injured player takes longer. I will be very happy if he is up to full speed by conference play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibruce Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 There are reports that Butler will let their coach go today. Would we have any interest in Connor Turnbull if he goes back on the market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ibruce said: There are reports that Butler will let their coach go today. Would we have any interest in Connor Turnbull if he goes back on the market? Yes. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Ibruce said: There are reports that Butler will let their coach go today. Would we have any interest in Connor Turnbull if he goes back on the market? 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Ibruce said: There are reports that Butler will let their coach go today. Would we have any interest in Connor Turnbull if he goes back on the market? Turnbull was a miss by the staff. I think if they had another chance at him they wouldn't waste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, thetorch said: Turnbull was a miss by the staff. I think if they had another chance at him they wouldn't waste it. did he turn down slu for butler or did slu not offer? does slu have interest in northweather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, dennis_w said: did he turn down slu for butler or did slu not offer? does slu have interest in northweather? Turnbull turned us down for Butler. Mizzou was his other high-major offer but that coach is already gone. I hope Turnbull reconsiders us if Butler fires his coach. I've made it clear how much I like Turnbull and Northweather. They are not necessarily impact players in Year One, but I believe they project as double figure scorers as upperclassmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, dennis_w said: did he turn down slu for butler or did slu not offer? does slu have interest in northweather? Staff hesitated with Turnbull. Butler beat us to the punch. If we had made an earlier push he'd be at SLU. He's not as good as Kalkbrenner but very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Perkins has to commit that he is coming back to play for the Bills before I'd worry about his recovery from the ACL which I believe will be a formality. I'd like to have him back, but right now it's not 100% and won't be until he tells us he wants to continue as a Billiken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, Schasz said: Perkins has to commit that he is coming back to play for the Bills before I'd worry about his recovery from the ACL which I believe will be a formality. I'd like to have him back, but right now it's not 100% and won't be until he tells us he wants to continue as a Billiken. You are correct, however from Perkins' point of view it may be in his best interest to delay any commitments for as long as he is allowed to do so. Meanwhile from SLU's point of view it may be in the team's best interest to find a really good replacement for him that is interested in coming here, and then presenting Perkins with the fact that he either commits or is out. It is much easier to find a good replacement while the transfer portal is chock full of players wanting to transfer, vs waiting for Perkins to make up his mind and giving him freedom to announce he is not coming back at at time when there are few transfer candidates still available. From SLU's point of view we have to act fast to find viable replacement and require him to make a decision on the spot. SLU comes or should come first. These priorities should be made clear to Perkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: Turnbull turned us down for Butler. Mizzou was his other high-major offer but that coach is already gone. I hope Turnbull reconsiders us if Butler fires his coach. I've made it clear how much I like Turnbull and Northweather. They are not necessarily impact players in Year One, but I believe they project as double figure scorers as upperclassmen. You have posted that SLU needs a big so I hope they get it done if he decides to de-commit. I trust your evaluation on players so I hope SLU can get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 FWIW, on 550am yesterday, Ford said we would have a decision from Javonte “Very, very soon.” That’s the second time I’ve heard him say it. Just guessing but it wouldn’t surprise me if we know something within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, billikenbill said: FWIW, on 550am yesterday, Ford said we would have a decision from Javonte “Very, very soon.” That’s the second time I’ve heard him say it. Just guessing but it wouldn’t surprise me if we know something within a week. This is in line with what I just posted, I hope Ford does not delay and demands his commitment very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Old guy said: This is in line with what I just posted, I hope Ford does not delay and demands his commitment very soon. We can demand all we want but the timeline is in Javonte's hands. We aren't going to give him an ultimatum. AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 From the rehab timeline posted on here, it doesn’t seem he’ll be a go for any of the NBA evaluation trials, camps and individual team assessments. Does anyone think he’ll get picked in round 2 or offered a FA deal? I think he’s going to have to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I am quite sure ford knows the timeline for perkins, a recruit looking for minutes would need to know if perkins is back or not. we will know soon about perkins or other transfers out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelC Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, slu72 said: From the rehab timeline posted on here, it doesn’t seem he’ll be a go for any of the NBA evaluation trials, camps and individual team assessments. Does anyone think he’ll get picked in round 2 or offered a FA deal? I think he’s going to have to come back. It's all speculation, but no, I don't think a team would spent a draft pick on a player coming back from injury who hasn't had a chance to show that they're healthy. However, NBA scouts had a grade on Javonte coming into this season and it's safe to assume that grade did not change based on the injury so a FA deal could be a possibility. If for example a team had him as a developmental player who needs 2 years in the G-League why wouldn't that still be the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Old guy said: This is in line with what I just posted, I hope Ford does not delay and demands his commitment very soon. I hope Ford is not demanding anything. Javonte has been an important player for this program and I hope they are working together to decide what is best for Javonte. Keep in mind if Ford took your approach and “demanded” a decision, but Javonte wasn’t ready, he would always have the option to transfer to another school. I have to imagine the vast majority of programs would love to add a player like that in the transfer portal. slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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