Pistol Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 10 hours ago, Fraz said: Looks like a naturally gifted shooter who needs to put on about 30 pounds. Only 6 foot tall which is a little concerning, he’ll have to be able to guard He'll be fine. Smaller guards can thrive in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 15 hours ago, Pistol said: He'll be fine. Smaller guards can thrive in this league. Yes, and not just this league. Fats Russell at 5-11 transferred from the A-10 to the Big 10 where he averaged 15 ppg. I'm not sure why some people get so hung up on the size of guards. I look for quickness, decision making and skill with guards. Zink, BilliesBy40, Crewsorlose and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2. SShoe, RUBillsFan, slufanskip and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 This looks like a really nice get - when we venture outside our local area, keep up the recruiting focus on the East Coast and Chicago! That's where the program is most likely to find recruiting success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, ACE said: Yes, and not just this league. Fats Russell at 5-11 transferred from the A-10 to the Big 10 where he averaged 15 ppg. I'm not sure why some people get so hung up on the size of guards. I look for quickness, decision making and skill with guards. Exactly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2. Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 NM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, Fraz said: Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol Ha, you're about an inch and 10lbs away from describing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 10 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Ha, you're about an inch and 10lbs away from describing me. All you need is "game." CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 15 minutes ago, Fraz said: Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol Let's not pretend he doesn't have another 15 months of growing to do before his first regular season game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2. But they weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 39 minutes ago, DOC said: But they weren't. Misunderstood, but @torch has me covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 34 minutes ago, DOC said: But they weren't. Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, thetorch said: Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill. Evans, Bess, Goodwin, French, Perkins, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCoBillsFan Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 6 hours ago, Compton said: Evans, Bess, Goodwin, French, Perkins, though. 3 of your top 8 players from the last decade being under 6’2 at the D1 level is pretty notable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 31 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said: 3 of your top 8 players from the last decade being under 6’2 at the D1 level is pretty notable. Also, they were all point guards. Pretty much every Billiken point guard other than H Waldman was under 6'2. And it's normal for a rising senior to be 15 lb lighter than he'll be in college. He is a teenager after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 10 hours ago, thetorch said: Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill. Mike McCall is the most underrated SLU player ever. BuiltFordBills, RUBillsFan, NextYearBill and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 51 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: Mike McCall is the most underrated SLU player ever. The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”? If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 18 minutes ago, CBFan said: The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”? If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great. I don’t know what he was listed at, but I would be shocked if he was taller than 6’1”. I thought he was shorter than Jett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 19 minutes ago, CBFan said: The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”? If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great. CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 5 minutes ago, HenryB said: Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2. He was such a dream Majerus recruit. Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip. This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage. He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president. (The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) cgeldmacher and SLUMedBilliken15 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 11 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2. He was such a dream Majerus recruit. Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip. This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage. He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president. (The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) I love that comp. Except Kramer might be a better 3-pt shooter, and McCall might've been more athletic. Though Kramer's build tells me there is a lot of untapped athletic potential hiding somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 22 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2. He was such a dream Majerus recruit. Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip. This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage. He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president. I agree with those points except I don't think I've seen a billiken in 15 years as quick and shifty as McCall. Yuri is the next closest thing to MCJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 20 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2. He was such a dream Majerus recruit. Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip. This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage. He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president. (The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) Majerus said he gave the actual heights, while a lot of schools would tend to inflate a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 McCall definitley belongs in this conversation. Loved his game. He also came in looking like Medley. Jett was the biggest 6'2 guard in college basketball and Kwamain and Yuri are also big for their height. Medley will be more like McCall in size and if he plays like it he will be a Billiken great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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