Welcome to Cian Medley!!!!

[Pistol]

10 hours ago, Fraz said:

Looks like a naturally gifted shooter who needs to put on about 30 pounds.  Only 6 foot tall which is a little concerning, he’ll have to be able to guard 

He'll be fine. Smaller guards can thrive in this league.

[ACE]

15 hours ago, Pistol said:

He'll be fine. Smaller guards can thrive in this league.

Yes, and not just this league. Fats Russell at 5-11 transferred from the A-10 to the Big 10 where he averaged 15 ppg. I'm not sure why some people get so hung up on the size of guards. I look for quickness, decision making and skill with guards.

[billikenfan05]

We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2.

[ACE]

This looks like a really nice get - when we venture outside our local area, keep up the recruiting focus on the East Coast and Chicago! That's where the program is most likely to find recruiting success.

[BIG BILL FAN]

1 hour ago, ACE said:

Yes, and not just this league. Fats Russell at 5-11 transferred from the A-10 to the Big 10 where he averaged 15 ppg. I'm not sure why some people get so hung up on the size of guards. I look for quickness, decision making and skill with guards.

Exactly..

[Fraz]

5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:

We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2.

Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol

[billikenfan05]

NM.

[billikenfan05]

1 minute ago, Fraz said:

Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol

Ha, you're about an inch and 10lbs away from describing me.

[Billiken Rich]

10 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

Ha, you're about an inch and 10lbs away from describing me.

All you need is "game."

[Compton]

15 minutes ago, Fraz said:

Let’s not pretend 6’0 155 pounds isn’t really small lol

Let's not pretend he doesn't have another 15 months of growing to do before his first regular season game.

[DOC]

5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:

We’re still worrying about short guards as if our best players the last decade weren’t under 6-2.

But they weren't. 

[billikenfan05]

39 minutes ago, DOC said:

But they weren't. 

Misunderstood, but @torch has me covered.

[thetorch]

34 minutes ago, DOC said:

But they weren't. 

Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill.

[Compton]

1 hour ago, thetorch said:

Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill.

Evans, Bess, Goodwin, French, Perkins, though.

[NoCoBillsFan]

6 hours ago, Compton said:

Evans, Bess, Goodwin, French, Perkins, though.

3 of your top 8 players from the last decade being under 6’2 at the D1 level is pretty notable. 

[3star_recruit]

31 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said:

3 of your top 8 players from the last decade being under 6’2 at the D1 level is pretty notable. 

Also, they were all point guards.  Pretty much every Billiken point guard other than H Waldman was under 6'2.  And it's normal for a rising senior to be 15 lb lighter than he'll be in college.  He is a teenager after all.

[AnkielBreakers]

10 hours ago, thetorch said:

Kwamain, Jett, Yuri all fit the bill.

Mike McCall is the most underrated SLU player ever.

[CBFan]

51 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said:

Mike McCall is the most underrated SLU player ever.

The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”?

If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great.

[AnkielBreakers]

18 minutes ago, CBFan said:

The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”?

If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great.

I don’t know what he was listed at, but I would be shocked if he was taller than 6’1”. I thought he was shorter than Jett.

[HenryB]

19 minutes ago, CBFan said:

The context of the subject was under 6’ 2” and wasn’t Mike listed at 6’ 2”?

If Mike is under then his name should be mentioned he is a Billiken great.

[SLU_Nick]

5 minutes ago, HenryB said:

Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2.  He was such a dream Majerus recruit.  Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip.  
 

This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage.  He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy 
 

On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president.  
 

(The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) 

[Bills By 40]

11 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said:

Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2.  He was such a dream Majerus recruit.  Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip.  
 

This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage.  He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy 
 

On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president.  
 

(The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) 

I love that comp. Except Kramer might be a better 3-pt shooter, and McCall might've been more athletic. Though Kramer's build tells me there is a lot of untapped athletic potential hiding somewhere. 

[wgstl]

22 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said:

Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2.  He was such a dream Majerus recruit.  Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip.  
 

This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage.  He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy 
 

On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president.  
 

I agree with those points except I don't think I've seen a billiken in 15 years as quick and shifty as McCall. Yuri is the next closest thing to MCJ

[ACE]

20 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said:

Majerus probably shrunk him on the roster website but I agree there is no way he was 6’2.  He was such a dream Majerus recruit.  Never got beat on defense, never turned the ball over and hit 3s at a reasonable clip.  
 

This is sort of what I thought I saw from Nick Kramer in the scrimmage.  He flashed Mike McCall vibes to me. I really really liked his defensive moxy 
 

On a related note, I’m announcing my candidacy for Nick Kramer fan club president.  
 

(The Rashad Williams fan club shuttered it’s doors some time ago.) 

Majerus said he gave the actual heights, while a lot of schools would tend to inflate a bit. 

[DOC]

McCall definitley belongs in this conversation. Loved his game. He also came in looking like Medley. Jett was the biggest 6'2 guard in college basketball and Kwamain and Yuri are also big for their height. Medley will be more like McCall in size and if he plays like it he will be a Billiken great.