billiken_roy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 i think after reading he first few thoughts on the ortiz chat, it is obvious...........pesty, krafty and stormy got to him first. wait a minute........pesty is a man, ortiz a man, krafty and stormy are women............no that's too much of a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I hope Rosenbloom adds a libel lawsuit against the PD to his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: You were right I should not have opened this chat But the SLU person that reached out to him doesn't change the basic fact he said that Gordon acknowledge something that he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I asked him if he would ammend his article to be an “editorial” in light of revealing that it was his opinion. I think an editorial has to come from the editorial board, which this does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: You were right I should not have opened this chat What is WAAAAAY shadier is that he says a "SLU Person" and NOT a "SLU Employee" or anything more specific. I would love to know what a SLU person is. Would you consider the lawyer of a girl who filed a Title IX complain at SLU as a SLU Person (yes, I know that was a woman where JOrtiz is referencing a man)? JOrtiz prolly would. He also will not state what they are verifying. So the "SLU Person" believes JOrtiz committed libel and ignored all journalistic integrity, but that libel was not blatant. The "SLU Person" has seen way more blatant libel from JOrtiz before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Can we get back to criticizing Pestello, the Title IX Office, Weathers, etc? Ortiz is a nobody who won't even acknowledge SLU again for 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJHawk Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 We live in a post fact world and this clown is hiding behind that. This "man" is a coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Can we get back to criticizing Pestello, the Title IX Office, Weathers, etc? Ortiz is a nobody who won't even acknowledge SLU again for 12 months. when he writes how Goodwin is "rehabilitated" after leading the team to the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'm a columnist. I write opinion pieces. Do you really not understand that columnists write opinion pieces? If you don't, let me explain that columnists write opinions. by jortiz edited by jortiz 2:32 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: You were right I should not have opened this chat he's back tracking now, saying he is an opinion columnist.....truly a piece of crap....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUAILMAN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spoon-Balls said: I'm a columnist. I write opinion pieces. Do you really not understand that columnists write opinion pieces? If you don't, let me explain that columnists write opinions. by jortiz edited by jortiz 2:32 PM So you can publish straight up lies and it's all good because you call them your opinions? That's cool. #FireJesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Spoon-Balls said: I'm a columnist. I write opinion pieces. Do you really not understand that columnists write opinion pieces? If you don't, let me explain that columnists write opinions. by jortiz edited by jortiz 2:32 PM Then his next answer about Brett Cecil I will not comment on Cecil. You have no idea what personal matter he is handling, so you shouldn't pass judgment. by jortiz 2/14/2018 8:34:10 PM 2:34 PM Slu let the dogs out? likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, QUAILMAN said: #FireJesus Fire Jesus! I love it. Just seeing those two words together made me laugh. I mean who else could you hire for that Son of God gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 He is such a tool. Ortiz is now answering Tilk posts in the chat to find someone that agrees with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, brianstl said: He is such a tool. Ortiz is now answering Tilk posts in the chat to find someone that agrees with him. Thanks for your terrific SLU article. Finally an adult perspective on the matter. by College Parent 2:50 PM This crap giving me a headache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, brianstl said: He is such a tool. Ortiz is now answering Tilk posts in the chat to find someone that agrees with him. Guys. He literally wrote a piece defending a pedophile. Of course he’s a tool TRN and brianstl like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: Then his next answer about Brett Cecil I will not comment on Cecil. You have no idea what personal matter he is handling, so you shouldn't pass judgment. by jortiz 2/14/2018 8:34:10 PM 2:34 PM -this goes in the "truth is stranger than fiction" bucket, you can't make up this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Jesus cannot be saved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Guys. He literally wrote a piece defending a pedophile. Of course he’s a tool My opinion is that Jesus himself is a pedophile. It's just my opinion...it's not based on any real research or actual fact-checking. Just my opinion. slu2016, RiseOfTheBillikens and majerus mojo like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUAILMAN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bizziken said: My opinion is that Jesus himself is a pedophile. It's just my opinion...it's not based on any real research or actual fact-checking. Just my opinion. Now please go post this in a widely read publication without mentioning that it's your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, QUAILMAN said: Now please go post this in a widely read publication without mentioning that it's your opinion. I think it’s fine that he didn’t specifically say it was his opinion; he’s a columnist so all pieces are his opinion. The problem is that his opinion was unfounded and that it villified a 19-year old kid. Littlebill likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 hours ago, MattyMo213 said: The school policy he violated that they’re punishing him for is probably underage drinking. The fact his dad said it isn’t title ix related makes me think that even more That is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, NH said: I think it’s fine that he didn’t specifically say it was his opinion; he’s a columnist so all pieces are his opinion. The problem is that his opinion was unfounded and that it villified a 19-year old kid. The problem isn't his opinion, it is he is claiming something as fact that isn't fact. He is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, brianstl said: The problem isn't his opinion, it is he is claiming something as fact that isn't fact. He is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts. Exactly, he attributed a quote to Jordan that he never made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, brianstl said: The problem isn't his opinion, it is he is claiming something as fact that isn't fact. He is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts. Exactly what I mean when I say it’s unfounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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