juniorbill76 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, TheA_Bomb said: It's almost like there's a coherent media campaign that benefits Saint Louis basketball. Well, to be fair: New SLU coach Ford vows to bring up-tempo style Stu Durando Mar 31, 2016 BenFred: Scouting new SLU coach Travis Ford Ben Frederickson Mar 31, 2016 BenFred: Selling SLU to local players is Ford's priority Ben Frederickson Apr 1, 2016 Ford was locked in on getting SLU job Stu Durando Apr 1, 2016 Ford ready to recruit to determine if he'll fill open scholarships Stu Durando Apr 7, 2016 Ford's forté: reviving programs such as SLU's Stu Durando Apr 12, 2016 2 Bens: Cruising with SLU coach Travis Ford Jun 8, 2016 SLU's Ford takes patient approach with recruits Stu Durando Jun 8, 2016 Hochman: Goodwin commitment a coup for SLU Benjamin Hochman Aug 12, 2016 BenFred: SLU's Ford is picky about home, players Ben Frederickson Sep 4, 201 Ford seeks sustained effort in practice Stu Durando Oct 13, 2016 Ortiz: Prepare to be surprised by Billikens Jose de Jesus Ortiz St. Louis Post-Dispatch Oct 21, 2016 SLU staff learning the ropes along with Ford Stu Durando Oct 26, 2016 BenFred: Gordon's SLU commitment another sign Ford is ahead of schedule Ben Frederickson Oct 26, 2016 Ford praises SLU effort in scrimmage Stu Durando Nov 2, 2016 Of course, this was his honeymoon period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 19 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Hard to comment and appreciate when you can't open it. No use posting such when it's not readable by the post dispatch. If it's that important for us mbm's to read, cut and paste the article please. Roy, Bookmark this link. https://www.removepaywall.com/ Copy and paste article links into the bar on the front page. Billikitty7 and Billiken Rich like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Toppin is/was the better athlete. Holmes runs like he has a stick up his ass. His percentages down low are the result of no resistance in the A10. When faced with some physicality, he was a lesser player. His three-point shooting was mostly from straight on and only when left completely uncovered and designed to tell the pros 'yeah I got more to my game, I'm draftable, pick me, pick me.' I expect him to get snuffed in the NBA if he even makes it. Time will tell which of us is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Holmes scored 23, with 11 boards against Arizona who has 1 elite big, and 1 really good big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 18 minutes ago, wgstl said: Holmes scored 23, with 11 boards against Arizona who has 1 elite big, and 1 really good big. 17 against Northwestern, 21 against St. John's, 16 against Houston, 28 against Cincy. I'd say he did just find against top competition. 32 of 83 three point attempts (38%) is more than "draft me, draft me" shooting. I would rely on the NBA scouts evaluation of a player more than our "Obi is a One Trick Pony" evaluator. (That One Trick Pony player has a $9million player option on the table for next season.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 42 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Roy, Bookmark this link. https://www.removepaywall.com/ Copy and paste article links into the bar on the front page. Yeah post's paywall has been getting better at screening out us riff-raff of late. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 11 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Yeah post's paywall has been getting better at screening out us riff-raff of late. Thanks Can no longer do incognito mode for stl today Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: 17 against Northwestern, 21 against St. John's, 16 against Houston, 28 against Cincy. I'd say he did just find against top competition. 32 of 83 three point attempts (38%) is more than "draft me, draft me" shooting. I would rely on the NBA scouts evaluation of a player more than our "Obi is a One Trick Pony" evaluator. (That One Trick Pony player has a $9million player option on the table for next season.) That depends upon a number of factors: 1. No significant injuries during the coming season. 2. Playing performance similar to or better than last season results. 3. Having a coach that actually plays him a lot next season. This is not a done deal although the probability he does make it to the NBA after next season is real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 The chance of Josh Schertz being interested in a transfer portal player is first determined by a 15-minute video cut-up created for his viewing by a graduate assistant at St. Louis University. Those snippets can include the moments in games when a particular player touched the ball, every catch-and-shoot, the drives, the cuts, ball screen defense, rebounding. They’re short bursts that tell Schertz whether he needs to proceed to watching full games and then a deep dive into that player’s character. Of more than 100 players he has watched in those videos since being hired at SLU, Schertz estimates he has eliminated 75%. “I’m a pretty hard grader,” Schertz said. “I spend most of the time I’m not doing a recruiting visit on my phone or computer watching video. My assistants get mad because I’m always, no, no no.” People are also reading… Washington University faculty placed on leave, students ‘houseless’ after Gaza protest Wentzville superintendent’s departure came after threats and police patrols Busch Stadium needs renovations. Should St. Louis taxpayers kick in? Teen charged with breaking into more than 35 cars in St. Louis County And that’s just the start of the process he has used to rebuild a roster that was decimated by departures. It is not a coincidence that the first 10 players to fill roster spots were known to Schertz or those around him before he arrived at SLU. A player might look great in video, but will he fit the system? A recruit might consider himself a team player, but how is he viewed by those who play with him? And someone might not appear to bring baggage, but does his inner circle include potential poison? Most coaches talk about wanting players who fit their culture. Schertz is consumed with the concept. “You need a unified group so we’re being purposeful about the pieces of the puzzle,” Schertz said. “You’re not acquiring talent, you’re building a team. There’s a big difference. You can get talented players, but if they’re not team oriented and possess the right competitive character — if the inner circle around them isn’t right — you can completely tear away the dynamics of the team. Teams are fragile, and it just takes one or two to be outside the team and it crumbles.” Josh Schertz meets St. Louis University students after a news conference to introduce him as the school's men's basketball coach on Monday, April 8, 2024 at Chaifetz Arena. Vanessa Abbitt, Post-Dispatch So far, 10 have passed the eye test, the background check and have wanted to play for SLU. Three spots remain and Schertz continued to watch video as a new batch of players scheduled visits starting late last week. Schertz runs an offense that revolves around his center, in this case Robbie Avila, while the remaining players on the floor are essentially positionless. So, while he is hard on his grading and research, he considers the field of talent for the offense to be large. “When you have 10 spots, you need everything. When you have three, it’s much more specific,” Schertz said. “I do think the way we play gives us tremendous bandwidth. Being positionless one through four gives us more variety in what we can do and create rosters with great versatility.” Schertz started by determining who from last year’s team wanted to stay and fit his prerequisites. He used assistant coach Corey Tate and others to gather information and targeted Gibson Jimerson, Larry Hughes II and Kellen Thames, all of whom will return. Then sights turned to the Indiana State roster and who among Schertz’s former players might want to join him at SLU. He landed Robbie Avila and Isaiah Swope. That left eight spots to fill. SLU has signed two incoming freshmen who Schertz was recruiting at Indiana State and knew well. Schertz also had recruited transfer guard Josiah Dotzler at Indiana State and was familiar with his game and family. Transfer AJ Casey was well known by Avila, who played with Casey starting in elementary school. And transfer Kalu Anya received a thumbs-up from assistant Antone Gray, who recruited him at Brown. Schertz said he still is seeking an impact perimeter player who is strong defensively, a backup to Avila, and a “wildcard” player, who would not necessarily have to contribute next season. In that search, Schertz remains hyper aware of how the remaining players might impact the team dynamic. A new element in that equation is money in the name, image and likeness era. SLU has lost out on some transfers who were offered more than SLU could at other schools. “The first question everybody asks is ‘What can I expect to make here?’ Everybody wants to know a range,” Schertz said. “The second is playing time. There are things that tear at team dynamics and now NIL maybe become No. 1 if you let it. Guys are unrealistic about what their value is. One thing that’s been good is I know we have a number of guys that have taken a lot less than they could have made because they wanted to be part of something here. That bodes well.” As he adds players, Schertz can only hope he finds a player like Jayson Kent, who transferred to Indiana State after two years at Bradley. Schertz’s system allowed Kent to lead the country in points scored on cuts with the help of Avila’s passing. He has high hopes for Anya, who he sees as a potential double-double performer, and Casey, who he said was in a “terrible system” for his skill set. C & P ! 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Slufan10 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: Roy, Bookmark this link. https://www.removepaywall.com/ Copy and paste article links into the bar on the front page. Does this paywall remover work for everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 23 minutes ago, Slufan10 said: Does this paywall remover work for everything? I don't know what everything includes. But it will likely work for news articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just the mention of ball screen defense got me excited. Ford teams were absolutely horrible at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 36 minutes ago, Slufan10 said: Does this paywall remover work for everything? I'd try auto-dialing every number in Sunnyvale CA and see if you can hook up with WOPR..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slufan10 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Billiken Rich said: I'd try auto-dialing every number in Sunnyvale CA and see if you can hook up with WOPR..... I watched WarGames for the first time a couple weeks ago lol Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I’m at the Billiken golf classic. Rumor going around that we are about to sign a St. Louis kid out of the portal. Anybody have an idea who that would be? NextYearBill, BuiltFordBills and VeniceMenace like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerkat Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, cgeldmacher said: I’m at the Billiken golf classic. Rumor going around that we are about to sign a St. Louis kid out of the portal. Anybody have an idea who that would be? Sounds like Cam'ron Fletcher to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 minutes ago, meerkat said: Sounds like Cam'ron Fletcher to me That’s my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Caleb love. no blue font needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 41 minutes ago, wgstl said: Caleb love. no blue font needed Love doesn’t seem to fit in Schertz’s model. Travis, yes. Schertz, no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Trilly said he heard Cam'Ron Fletcher's visit was cancelled. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slufan10 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 9 minutes ago, billikens747 said: Trilly said he heard Cam'Ron Fletcher's visit was cancelled. noooooo. Unless this means it's a done deal he's committing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'm going to stand by my Holmes take until the NBA stardom proves otherwise. Current rumors ay SVU have him returning because his draft status isn't 'all that great.' All-American or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Am I the only one completely fine with Fletcher not coming to SLU? Box and Won, billiken_roy, Billiken Rich and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 43 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: Am I the only one completely fine with Fletcher not coming to SLU? I trust Schertz will not take him unless he is physically able to play close to his former level. I do not know anything about the young man's demeanor, but trust coach will also only take him if he fits the team's chemistry. Given his recruitment history, he obviously can be a big plus if healthy. Interesting read on all his injuries ...... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/lsu-forward-angel-reese-boyfriend-cam-ron-fletcher-s-injury-and-current-health-condition-explained/ar-AA1l6zt5 Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 He’s a walking emergency room, but he keeps on coming back. Got to like that. He’s obviously a talent, and Schertz will have to evaluate how he might fit. Schertz obviously values team chemistry above all else, so we’ll have to trust his evaluation. If Ford were still the HC and he was a possible, we’d likely be all for it. But things have changed. He doesn’t sound like a Love or a Gordon type which is a plus. All we can say now is in Schertz we trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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