HoosierPal Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Billikenbooster said: Those endless possibilities will lead to endless discussions with MBMs on how to maximize our performance mhg Dat true. For me the most irreplaceable player on the squad is French. Who really can hold the fort if he is out more than a few minutes at a time? Those continuing to say Perkins is a PF, you need to read his interview. Hankton, maybe he can handle a few more minutes inside than last year, but he was physically over matched inside last season. Bell or Diarra, hopefully, but they need to prove it on the court, and one or the other might already he seeing significant minutes in the paint. For me, we have, hopefully, capable backups for everyone else......just not for French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, HoosierPal said: 1 on 1 staff to player ratio. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Dat true. For me the most irreplaceable player on the squad is French. Who really can hold the fort if he is out more than a few minutes at a time? Those continuing to say Perkins is a PF, you need to read his interview. Hankton, maybe he can handle a few more minutes inside than last year, but he was physically over matched inside last season. Bell or Diarra, hopefully, but they need to prove it on the court, and one or the other might already he seeing significant minutes in the paint. For me, we have, hopefully, capable backups for everyone else......just not for French. We don't have a power forward but that's where the minutes are. French can't start at both frontcourt spots. Some combination of Perkins, Hargrove and Hankton will have to handle the PF responsibilities. If you're going to be weak defensively at one position, the 4 is a pretty good one. Not many productive power forwards in the A10. On the flip side, I see very few power forwards capable of guarding Perkins. bauman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, wgstl said: Im still decently high on Hankton. I liked what I saw in limited action, and his main weakness was that he wasnt physical enough, looks like hes fixing that. I agree with this. I think Hankton isn't getting much love around here but could be a critical piece at the 4, especially with the added bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincybill Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, NashvilleBilliken said: I agree with this. I think Hankton isn't getting much love around here but could be a critical piece at the 4, especially with the added bulk. Same with Weaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Billikens?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Billikens</a>-Kansas State game on Dec. 21 in Kansas City (Sprint Center) will tip at 6 p.m. It will be streamed on ESPN+.</p>— Brian Kunderman (@BKunderman) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKunderman/status/1176945672957890560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: good, i can leave early sat and have a whole day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Guess I'm signing up for ESPN+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkelsey55 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I will be attending this one. Still thinking about Tulane in Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Anyone going to Birmingham? I'm planning on it. Cincybill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 How big are the A10 Bigs? Info from Verbal Commits. Did not include walk on, or Fordham. Davidson Luka Brakovic 6, 10 250 so 2* Nelson Broachie 6, 8 220 so 2* David Kristensen 6, 10 210 fr 2* Dayton Jordy Tshimanga 6, 11 268 jr 3* Chase Johnson 6, 9 219 jr 3* Obadiah Toppin 6, 9 220 so 2* Moulaye Sissoko 6, 9 248 fr 3* Duquene Baylee Steele 6,11 240 sr 2* Michael Hughes 6, 8 240 jr 2* Austin Rotroff 6, 8 240 so 3* Amari Kelly 6, 9 230 so 2* James Ellis 6, 11 237 fr 2* George Mason Greg Calixte 6, 8 227 jr 2* Josh Oduro 6, 9 237 fr 2* George Wash Arnaldo Toro 6, 8 248 sr 2.7* Javier Langarrca 6, 9 228 jr 2* Sloan Seymour 6, 9 205 jr 2* Chase Paar 6, 9 220 fr 2* LaSalle Moustapha Diagne 6, 9 230 sr 4* Clifton Moore jr. 6, 10 220 jr 4* Ed Crosswell 6, 8 250 so 2* Brandon Stone 6, 11 200 fr 3* U Mass Djery Bapptiste. 6, 10 245 sr 3.5* Sy Chatman 6, 8 220 so 2* The Mitchell 6, 9 240 fr 4* Rhode Is Cyril Langevine 6, 8 225 sr 2.7* Jermaine Harris 6, 8 220 so 4* Richmond Grant Golden 6, 10 255 sr 2.5* Souleymane Koureissi 6, 9 215 so 3* Matt Grace 6, 9 230 so 2* St. Joe Taylor Funk 6, 8 230 jr 3* Lorenzo Edwards 6, 8 215 jr 2* Anthony Longpre 6, 10 245 jr. 2* St. Bon Amadi Ikpeze 6, 10 245 sr 2* Osun Osunniyi 6, 10 215 so 2* Justin Winston 6, 8 220 fr 3* Robert Carpenter 6, 8 215 fr 2* VCU Marcus Silva 6, 7 250 jr 3* Corey Douglas 6, 8 220 jr 2* Hansen Ward 6, 9 200 fr 2* SLU Hasan French 6, 7 245 jr 3.3* KC Hankton 6, 7 215 so 2* Jimmy Bell 6, 11 270 fr 3* Madani Diarra 6, 10 240 fr 2* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Aquinas said: How big are the A10 Bigs? Info from Verbal Commits. Did not include walk on, or Fordham. Davidson Luka Brakovic 6, 10 250 so 2* Nelson Broachie 6, 8 220 so 2* David Kristensen 6, 10 210 fr 2* Dayton Jordy Tshimanga 6, 11 268 jr 3* Chase Johnson 6, 9 219 jr 3* Obadiah Toppin 6, 9 220 so 2* Moulaye Sissoko 6, 9 248 fr 3* Duquene Baylee Steele 6,11 240 sr 2* Michael Hughes 6, 8 240 jr 2* Austin Rotroff 6, 8 240 so 3* Amari Kelly 6, 9 230 so 2* James Ellis 6, 11 237 fr 2* George Mason Greg Calixte 6, 8 227 jr 2* Josh Oduro 6, 9 237 fr 2* George Wash Arnaldo Toro 6, 8 248 sr 2.7* Javier Langarrca 6, 9 228 jr 2* Sloan Seymour 6, 9 205 jr 2* Chase Paar 6, 9 220 fr 2* LaSalle Moustapha Diagne 6, 9 230 sr 4* Clifton Moore jr. 6, 10 220 jr 4* Ed Crosswell 6, 8 250 so 2* Brandon Stone 6, 11 200 fr 3* U Mass Djery Bapptiste. 6, 10 245 sr 3.5* Sy Chatman 6, 8 220 so 2* The Mitchell 6, 9 240 fr 4* Rhode Is Cyril Langevine 6, 8 225 sr 2.7* Jermaine Harris 6, 8 220 so 4* Richmond Grant Golden 6, 10 255 sr 2.5* Souleymane Koureissi 6, 9 215 so 3* Matt Grace 6, 9 230 so 2* St. Joe Taylor Funk 6, 8 230 jr 3* Lorenzo Edwards 6, 8 215 jr 2* Anthony Longpre 6, 10 245 jr. 2* St. Bon Amadi Ikpeze 6, 10 245 sr 2* Osun Osunniyi 6, 10 215 so 2* Justin Winston 6, 8 220 fr 3* Robert Carpenter 6, 8 215 fr 2* VCU Marcus Silva 6, 7 250 jr 3* Corey Douglas 6, 8 220 jr 2* Hansen Ward 6, 9 200 fr 2* SLU Hasan French 6, 7 245 jr 3.3* KC Hankton 6, 7 215 so 2* Jimmy Bell 6, 11 270 fr 3* Madani Diarra 6, 10 240 fr 2* Great. Now here is a list of the starters at the 4, followed by their production. Only two players getting anything done in the paint, Toppin and 6'5 Marcus Weathers. I'll throw in La Salle's soph, Jared Kimbrough. He came on strong at the end of last year. VCU, Corey Douglas 6'8 Jr 210 3.5 ppg 3.5 rpg Davidson, Kishawn Pritchett Sr 6'6 225 6.9ppg 3.6 rpg Dayton, Obi Toppin, 6'9 220 So 14.4ppg 5.6 rpg St. Bonaventure, Robert Carpenter Fr (projected, starter graduated) 6'8 215 N/A Rhode Island, Jermaine Harris So 6'8 220 4.4 ppg 2.8 rpg Duquesne, Marcus Weathers Jr 6'5 215 10 ppg 6.4 rpg Richmond, Nathan Cayo Jr 6'7 225 12.9 ppg 4.2 rpg George Mason, Jordan Miller So 6'6 189 10.4 ppg 7.4 rpg George Washingon, Javier Langarica Jr 6'9 228 5.6 ppg 5.3 rpg La Salle, Jared Kimbrough So 6'8 220 5.0 ppg 4.9 rpg St Joseph, Taylor Funk Jr 6'9 232 8.4 ppg 5.5 rpg UMass, Sy Chatman So (projected, starter transferred) 6'8 220 3.7 ppg 2.2 ppg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Remember Gillman? Jolly? They were tall that is certain, could they play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I never saw the kid play but Hargrove looks like he could play power forward..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: I never saw the kid play but Hargrove looks like he could play power forward..... He can play both forward positions imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 while hargrove was a stellar high school player and excelled inside, keep in mind that is versus high school centers that typically might be 6'2 or even smaller. the hasan french's of the high school ranks (which typifies closer to the pf's at the D1 level) arent that common of a high school opponent. when hargrove did meet up with one of that caliber for example, ej liddell, liddell typically bested him in points and rebounds almost 2--1. i am not afraid of hargrove doing ok work playing power forward, but we would much rather have him develop as a high flying wing than banging in the paint. RiseAndGrind and slufanskip like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, billiken_roy said: while hargrove was a stellar high school player and excelled inside, keep in mind that is versus high school centers that typically might be 6'2 or even smaller. the hasan french's of the high school ranks (which typifies closer to the pf's at the D1 level) arent that common of a high school opponent. when hargrove did meet up with one of that caliber for example, ej liddell, liddell typically bested him in points and rebounds almost 2--1. i am not afraid of hargrove doing ok work playing power forward, but we would much rather have him develop as a high flying wing than banging in the paint. There are only three proficient bangers at the power forward in the A10: Toppin, 6'5 Marcus Weathers at Duquesne and the Kimbrough kid at La Salle. The other top paint threats in the A10, Grant Golden, Marcus Santos-Silva, French, etc. log most of their minutes at center. It's pretty rare for a mid-major team to have two productive post players at the 4 and 5. Even our nonconference slate is noticeably short on legitimate post threats at power forward. Most 4s these days are stretch fours, i.e. wannabe perimeter players. Right now Hargrove is only 6'6 195. I could easily see him being a top-line power forward in the A10 two years from now at 215. That's where the minutes are. And he could play exactly the way on offense as he would at small forward. It just changes who he has to defend. TJ has aspirations of playing in the NBA -- he's going to have to get used to defending 6'8 perimeter players. Kawhi Leonard was a 6'7 power forward at San Diego State. What better role model for TJ than him? Quality Is Job 1, Zink and RiseAndGrind like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 SLU lists Hargrove at 6, 4 195, and looking at the team picture he looks a couple of inches shorter than French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I must be way off about Hargrove’s position, I see him as a SF who can guard the 2 more than the 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, wgstl said: I must be way off about Hargrove’s position, I see him as a SF who can guard the 2 more than the 4 You're not way off. Yes, it's true: Perkins, Hargrove and Hankton are all small forwards. It's also true that French is our starting center. Someone has to guard the opposing 4. And considering we don't have anybody qualified to play heavy minutes at the 4, all of those guys will have to do it. The House That Rick Built likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 I'm hoping to see significant minutes with Bell at the 5. If he can hold his own, French will dominate as a 4. I also think KC will make significant contributions in the rotation. Madani is the one big that we have not had any reports on. Perkins might be the wing best suited to play the 4 with his JC experience and height, but the article about him made it look like he is better suited to the wing position. dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 French warming up for the dunk contest (french, jgood, thatch, jacobs and hargrove are the participants): Gotta go with TJ, but this is pretty damn impressive for a guy HF's size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: French warming up for the dunk contest (french, jgood, thatch, jacobs and hargrove are the participants): Gotta go with TJ, but this is pretty damn impressive for a guy HF's size. I'll take Thatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 -i"ll take I hope they have a great time and don't get hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -i"ll take I hope they have a great time and don't get hurt Thought the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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