RiseOfTheBillikens Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Spoon-Balls said: I thought we were pretty sure that Graves was the one who got expelled (for being the videotaper), not Goodwin. It would make literally zero sense for Goodwin to have been the one videotaping and yet getting to play this whole season... It making zero sense is exactly why I think this scenerio has legs Re: SLU- "Not unbelievable but a bit unusual" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 22 hours ago, NextYearBill said: maybe all those local HS and AAU coaches were right after all.... In light of recent events you could definitely make a compelling argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, STL Hoops Insider said: In light of recent events you could definitely make a compelling argument. And I’m sure you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Not worried about that Stu tweet. The more we hear about Goodwin practicing and playing, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 hours ago, HenryB said: Sure glad to know Mi$$ouri hasn't had any scandal the past several years. Both have had issues with scandals, that’s how they earned the monikers SPUMAC and SPRING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Both have had issues with scandals, that’s how they earned the monikers SPUMAC and SPRING. Yeah nobody is gonna bite on that one, chief. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Trying to figure out how SLU operates is kind of like trying to rationalize with a toddler. It makes no sense to anyone and probably isn’t right but they believe it so just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This crap is detrimental to my overall well-being. SouthSide_Billiken, dlarry and RiseOfTheBillikens like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 just drag this out 45 more days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GBL_Bills said: I have absolutely no idea. Legal team would make sense, but "excused absences" to me hints to me that it would be somehow university-involved. I also think that if the legal team told the players that they have to meet and/or have big updates about their status, then coach Ford would excuse them from practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I really want this appeals committee to just stick it to Kratky and Weathers, but you know that won’t happen. We’re Billikens fans, we don’t get to have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, MattyMo213 said: I also think that if the legal team told the players that they have to meet and/or have big updates about their status, then coach Ford would excuse them from practice if they have been informed of their suspension/expulsion from the team, why they would need “permission” to do anything is wild at this point. yes I understand you want to continue to put on a good front during the (apparent) appeal.. but the way everyone is dancing around the issue after Friday is crazy “They’re excused from practice today, and we plan on them being back... unless of course these university issued sanctions that no one will comment on are upheld.. then they will not be back at practice... I think...” — Chris May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamarete Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: I would say I'm about 99.5% sure who the 4th player is Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: I would say I'm about 99.5% sure who the 4th player is In the board tradition, just give his initials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 hours ago, kshoe said: Yes. It only takes one school and given the details as we know them, most schools would welcome him with open arms. Two comments: 1. S2 is similar (but of course) different than the Craig Upchurch fiasco. SLU needs to decide if it wishes to engage and be part of the world of D1 athletics or not. Time served is more than sufficient for anything they did that night. Had they done anything that night deserving of worse than time served, they should have been kicked out of school in September, not allowed on campus, not allowed to practice/travel, not allowed to move back onto campus, etc.If our boys did not violate the law (no criminal prosecution) and if other rival schools would welcome them with open arms, then they should not be treated worse here at SLU. Craig Upchurch met NCAA academic guidelines and yet SLU held itself out to be academically superior. Now, SLU is holding itself out to be morally superior. I can see alot of community service this summer, counseling, etc. but SLU either needs to be a Top 50 program or not. Plain and simple. 2. Why SLU has not fixed their Student Handbook since S1 is beyond me. Throw the damn thing away. NextYearBill, GoBills73, TheOne and 3 others like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariaReynolds Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 More accusations? What you tolerate, you encourage. Pestello has chosen to tolerate a misguided agenda and has hence encouraged a persecution for political purposes. Save Saint Louis University. Bobby Metzinger likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 hours ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: It making zero sense is exactly why I think this scenerio has legs Re: SLU- "Not unbelievable but a bit unusual" It wasn't Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach314 said: It wasn't Graves What do you know, coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierBilliken Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenBoy10 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Wouldn't be surprised at all with another late Friday afternoon news dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, BillikenBoy10 said: Wouldn't be surprised at all with another late Friday afternoon news dump. -I'm curious, what, at this point in this S2, would surprise you or anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilkowsky Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: Two comments: 1. S2 is similar (but of course) different than the Craig Upchurch fiasco. SLU needs to decide if it wishes to engage and be part of the world of D1 athletics or not. Time served is more than sufficient for anything they did that night. Had they done anything that night deserving of worse than time served, they should have been kicked out of school in September, not allowed on campus, not allowed to practice/travel, not allowed to move back onto campus, etc.If our boys did not violate the law (no criminal prosecution) and if other rival schools would welcome them with open arms, then they should not be treated worse here at SLU. Craig Upchurch met NCAA academic guidelines and yet SLU held itself out to be academically superior. Now, SLU is holding itself out to be morally superior. I can see alot of community service this summer, counseling, etc. but SLU either needs to be a Top 50 program or not. Plain and simple. 2. Why SLU has not fixed their Student Handbook since S1 is beyond me. Throw the damn thing away. So being in big time DI athletics means the basketball players can do what they want without repercussions? If SLU does that it will be a sad day for the school. If the sex was consensual why is there an investigation? Taping the encounter was really stupid. I guess because they are basketball players it doesn't matter? You don't know there will be a criminal investigation still. I believe the case is still open. ACE - a few of the posters on SLU Talk on stltoday.com said they were graduates. So you need to get over there and defend the players who are being called thugs over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -I'm curious, what, at this point in this S2, would surprise you or anyone? if Ford was the photographer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tilkowsky said: So being in big time DI athletics means the basketball players can do what they want without repercussions? If SLU does that it will be a sad day for the school. If the sex was consensual why is there an investigation? Taping the encounter was really stupid. I guess because they are basketball players it doesn't matter? You don't know there will be a criminal investigation still. I believe the case is still open. ACE - a few of the posters on SLU Talk on stltoday.com said they were graduates. So you need to get over there and defend the players who are being called thugs over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I don’t expect a news dump today. It is too early in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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