almaman Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: We have to at least make the tournament so he can feel comfortable coming to SLU. If we finish 5th in the A10, there will be too much pressure to go the blue blood route. Sort of like Tatum - looking back, I was delusional to even buy in for a second that he would want to play for Crews. Many of us were, I might add selfish & dishonest in our assessment of what was better for him. NextYearBill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 hours ago, SLU_Nick said: We have to at least make the tournament so he can feel comfortable coming to SLU. If we finish 5th in the A10, there will be too much pressure to go the blue blood route. Sort of like Tatum - looking back, I was delusional to even buy in for a second that he would want to play for Crews. He will almost certainly make his decision before school starts, hence no chance for us to make the tourney prior to his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 hours ago, SLU_Nick said: We have to at least make the tournament so he can feel comfortable coming to SLU. If we finish 5th in the A10, there will be too much pressure to go the blue blood route. Sort of like Tatum - looking back, I was delusional to even buy in for a second that he would want to play for Crews. I doubt that he’s going to wait until the end of next season to commit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 4/5/2018 at 3:01 PM, BIG BILL FAN said: i don't either, his shot looks like Polks....... I remember how excited I was when Polk signed. I thought that was the beginning of big things for the Bills. Wow! That excitement right there is why I'm not a talent evaluator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 9 hours ago, dlarry said: I remember how excited I was when Polk signed. I thought that was the beginning of big things for the Bills. Wow! That excitement right there is why I'm not a talent evaluator. I remember going to Maryville University with my uncle to watch Polk play Meyer’s Borgia team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 my son played against polk in aau ball and when he heard slu signed him his first reaction was why? he cant play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Who was the worse recruiter? Soderberg or Crews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Who was the worse recruiter? Soderberg or Crews? That’s tough. I was going to say Soderberg, but then i remembered Brett Jolly. Westy03 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Who was the worse recruiter? Soderberg or Crews? I would say Crews. Lisch, Liddell and Voyoukas were by far better than any players Crews brought on, IMO. Zink, CBFan and DeSmetBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Who was the worse recruiter? Soderberg or Crews? Soberberg somehow got Lisch and Liddell. That puts him light years ahead of Crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 10 hours ago, dlarry said: I remember how excited I was when Polk signed. I thought that was the beginning of big things for the Bills. Wow! That excitement right there is why I'm not a talent evaluator. LOL at the post and at myself I am a horrible talent evaluator I believe all Billiken recruits will be good players when they sign with one exception Gillman when Crews signed him. I really appreciate the people on this site that can evaluate talent and post their knowledgeable opinions about recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Any indication Yuri is visiting this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, dennis_w said: my son played against polk in aau ball and when he heard slu signed him his first reaction was why? he cant play Polk was the Missouri Player of the year so to say he could not play is just crazy. Now if you want to say he can not shoot then that is another matter entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Coleman from Samford is visiting this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Soberberg somehow got Lisch and Liddell. That puts him light years ahead of Crews. Crews got guys like Roby and Yarbrough, who are great college players in their own right. For every good player though, both coaches had guys like Jolly, Knollmeyer, Ikeakor, Gillmann, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 i am just quoting my son, who did not believe he was d-1 player, i think he was correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Brad could not recruit against bigger schools and he waited too long to reach an evaluation of players which always put him well behind the pack thus reducing his chances for success. Crews just could not evaluate talent and therefore he never bothered to get into the horse race for the good ones or just never got all in - almost like he had a fatalistic view on getting anybody good. Both had their short comings and trying to pick one or the other is like trying to decide if you want to have your foot crushed by a car or a 2 ton rock - what is the difference you still end up with a crushed foot. I think the Lisch and Liddell signings were just luck on Brad's part given his track record after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, dennis_w said: i am just quoting my son, who did not believe he was d-1 player, i think he was correct Well lots of people in the State disagreed with your son. Polk scored in high school by driving and never really had to shoot much. After he broke his ankle - I think - he was never the same player. dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Brad tried to recruit Scott Suggs by photo shopping an afro on his own head. I was never more embarrassed to be a Billiken fan when that was on the 5pm news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, NextYearBill said: Brad tried to recruit Scott Suggs by photo shopping an afro on his own head. I was never more embarrassed to be a Billiken fan when that was on the 5pm news Brad's son was a friend of Suggs and he was banking on that pulling the kid in. I did not see the picture you are referencing but I wonder if since he knew the kid as friend of his son was he just kidding. Either way I agree if Brad did that it was at least insensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: Brad tried to recruit Scott Suggs by photo shopping an afro on his own head. I was never more embarrassed to be a Billiken fan when that was on the 5pm news He did what???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: Brad tried to recruit Scott Suggs by photo shopping an afro on his own head. I was never more embarrassed to be a Billiken fan when that was on the 5pm news Lol and we had talked ourselves into that 2008 class saving Soderberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 51 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Brad could not recruit against bigger schools and he waited too long to reach an evaluation of players which always put him well behind the pack thus reducing his chances for success. Crews just could not evaluate talent and therefore he never bothered to get into the horse race for the good ones or just never got all in - almost like he had a fatalistic view on getting anybody good. Both had their short comings and trying to pick one or the other is like trying to decide if you want to have your foot crushed by a car or a 2 ton rock - what is the difference you still end up with a crushed foot. I think the Lisch and Liddell signings were just luck on Brad's part given his track record after that. So...does this mean Douglas, Gray and Bonner were just luck for Grawer, too? When one considers the state of SLU facilities and the incoming level of program success during these tenures, there’s no debate as to who holds the title of worst recruiter in SLU history. AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Don't care about past Bills HC F-Ups...I'm only interested in what CTF can recruit and hope that he can find us a couple sharp shooters to add what is already on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 hours ago, DeSmetBilliken said: He did what???? You don't remember that? IIRC, it was Suggs' hair photoshopped on Brad's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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