GDT: SLU v. SIU-Carbondale

[RamJAMTIME]

But,  but,  but...Parker was injured, multiple players were deemed ineligible, the refs didn't help us all season.  

They won't fire Ford. He'll be given another year because he has such bad luck. Next year will be different...FML

[billikenfan05]

3 minutes ago, RamJAMTIME said:

But,  but,  but...Parker was injured, multiple players were deemed ineligible, the refs didn't help us all season.  

They won't fire Ford. He'll be given another year because he has such bad luck. Next year will be different...FML

Nah, his ship has sailed. He's not coming back from losing by 41 to a regional rival.

[RamJAMTIME]

Maybe we should make the L lowercase... then we'd be better!

[billikenbill]

15 minutes ago, RamJAMTIME said:

But,  but,  but...Parker was injured, multiple players were deemed ineligible, the refs didn't help us all season.  

They won't fire Ford. He'll be given another year because he has such bad luck. Next year will be different...FML

Likely scenario regardless of how much the Fire Ford crowd stamps its feet.

[BigMouthBilliken]

1 hour ago, slu92 said:

Listen everybody….Travis Ford is going to be the head coach at slu for a long, long time, while I’m the AD here…..

As far as I’m concerned they can escort each other out

[NoCoBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, billikenbill said:

Likely scenario regardless of how much the Fire Ford crowd stamps its feet.

Shouldn’t be a crowd, should be the entire fanbase

[cheeseman]

10 hours ago, slu92 said:

Listen everybody….Travis Ford is going to be the head coach at slu for a long, long time, while I’m the AD here…..

When you hook your wagon to a sinking ship - guess what you go down with it.

[ACE]

It's Yuri's fault!

[cheeseman]

Well if they give Ford another year for whatever reason if they think attendance is not what they want now they ain't seen nothing yet.

[Taj79]

@willie:  I'm not arguing that.  Jimmerson reminds me a lot of Doug Collins but Doug Collins wasn't going to win many games all by himself.  Jimerson would be a great pickup next year for many Top Ten teams.  Hell, I thought he'd be at UVa this year for sure.  

[Soderball]

1 hour ago, Taj79 said:

@willie:  I'm not arguing that.  Jimmerson reminds me a lot of Doug Collins but Doug Collins wasn't going to win many games all by himself.  Jimerson would be a great pickup next year for many Top Ten teams.  Hell, I thought he'd be at UVa this year for sure.  

Might not defend well enough for UVA.

Jimersons a great, legendary shooter and a passable drive player. That's what he does.

His drive game depends on getting fouls and depends on players playing up in his face.

[Scoop]

Yesterday was beyond embarrassing.  Last straw.

[willie]

2 hours ago, Taj79 said:

@willie:  I'm not arguing that.  Jimmerson reminds me a lot of Doug Collins but Doug Collins wasn't going to win many games all by himself.  Jimerson would be a great pickup next year for many Top Ten teams.  Hell, I thought he'd be at UVa this year for sure.  

I am not arguing that Jimmer can be the man. Your original post was we didn’t have anyone who would start for other teams. He would start and fit in well for most teams. 

[Soderball]

11 minutes ago, willie said:

I am not arguing that Jimmer can be the man. Your original post was we didn’t have anyone who would start for other teams. He would start and fit in well for most teams. 

The biggest problem is that this years crop of recruits are doing nothing. They're either ineligible or just not good.

[willie]

1 hour ago, Soderball said:

The biggest problem is that this years crop of recruits are doing nothing. They're either ineligible or just not good.

This would be my biggest criticism of Ford. Next year currently doesn’t look better. 

[dlarry]

1 hour ago, Soderball said:

The biggest problem is that this years crop of recruits are doing nothing. They're either ineligible or just not good.

I think an even bigger problem is that there are no serviceable Juniors on the team. There are literally no third year players on the team. 

Thats the group who should be stepping up this year with Hargrove and Jimerson. 
We can complain about the poor coaching but the lack of third year players is a recruiting problem. Shows me Ford can’t  coach or recruit. 
 

 

[Soderball]

1 hour ago, dlarry said:

I think an even bigger problem is that there are no serviceable Juniors on the team. There are literally no third year players on the team. 

Thats the group who should be stepping up this year with Hargrove and Jimerson. 
We can complain about the poor coaching but the lack of third year players is a recruiting problem. Shows me Ford can’t  coach or recruit. 
 

 

and this year is an empty recruiting class; like Crews had.

We need a coach with players ready-to-play right now like Utah St did. Rosters can be turned around QUICK with the right hire.

I wouldn't mind watching Great O's senior year here at SLU. You? A 62 kenpom right now is exactly what i'd like to be seeing at SLU. That's a good team that is going to make a push for an at-large, challenge to win the conference, and a lock for an NIT slot.

[thunderdan]

Couldn’t control the Saluki offense, but was able to tame this one.

[Taj79]

@willie: No.  My original post said that every player on this team is at best a role player.  You then moved on to 'complementary."  I agreed that Jimerson is indeed that, but with the right role.  I never said no one could start elsewhere.

Jimerson does start here but he's overtaxed as not only a starter but 'the man."  I'm surprised he doesn't drop from exhaustion by game's end.

[willie]

35 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

@willie: No.  My original post said that every player on this team is at best a role player.  You then moved on to 'complementary."  I agreed that Jimerson is indeed that, but with the right role.  I never said no one could start elsewhere.

Jimerson does start here but he's overtaxed as not only a starter but 'the man."  I'm surprised he doesn't drop from exhaustion by game's end.

“Nary a one has starters talent “. I am glad you came around to say Giibbie could and would start in a lot of places. 

[TheChosenOne]

48 minutes ago, willie said:

“Nary a one has starters talent “. I am glad you came around to say Giibbie could and would start in a lot of places. 

I am somewhat curious what level programs would have interest in Jimerson? He has limitations that are the reason he began his career at this level. Definitely a heck of a shooter though.

[thetorch]

9 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said:

I am somewhat curious what level programs would have interest in Jimerson? He has limitations that are the reason he began his career at this level. Definitely a heck of a shooter though.

Jimerson could start on 90% of teams in the country.  As a 3rd option he'd be amazing.  

[TheChosenOne]

2 minutes ago, thetorch said:

Jimerson could start on 90% of teams in the country.  As a 3rd option he'd be amazing.  

Like I said, I’d be interested in seeing whether that is actually the case. I have some doubts, but love the kid, so I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[Aquinas]

We have serious problems, but its wrong to say all of our players are sub par. I think our best starting guards, Meadows, Parker and Jimerson are pretty good. Good enough to win the conference and dance. I also like young Houghes and Thames. Unfortunately they are not all healthy and our forwards are not nearly good enough. 

[bamjam]

Did they change the official score?  It was 101-60... now it's 101-62... almost like someone lobbied to get it under 40...