Barstool Sports Take on Jordair Jett

[Taj79]

Nice reading

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3404794/jordair-jett-was-ejected-from-the-st.-louisdayton-game-today-...-the-same-game-he-was-inducted-into-the-schools-hall-of-fame

And from A10 Talk:

https://www.a10talk.com/slu-exorcises-its-archbaron-cup-demons/

Frankly, Dayton got their rear ends spanked and Grant was looking for anythign going forward.  He even pulled all his scholarship players at the end lest the big bad Billies hurt a punk or two.  And it wasn't even it, it was Jett.  What a joke.  Smith crying that the fans wouldn't give him the ball.  Elvis jawing it up.  There should be league fines for that entire team leaving their bench for nothing.

 

 

[A10Ref]

12 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

Nice reading

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3404794/jordair-jett-was-ejected-from-the-st.-louisdayton-game-today-...-the-same-game-he-was-inducted-into-the-schools-hall-of-fame

And from A10 Talk:

https://www.a10talk.com/slu-exorcises-its-archbaron-cup-demons/

Frankly, Dayton got their rear ends spanked and Grant was looking for anythign going forward.  He even pulled all his scholarship players at the end lest the big bad Billies hurt a punk or two.  And it wasn't even it, it was Jett.  What a joke.  Smith crying that the fans wouldn't give him the ball.  Elvis jawing it up.  There should be league fines for that entire team leaving their bench for nothing.

 

 

Yup. It was just a crafty display of gamesmanship/butt-saving from Grant. Saw a moment to motivate his players and seized it. Whole lotta nothing. 

[cheeseman]

There is video - and all these guy got it wrong.  Look on the thread about the game.

[CBFan]

10 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

Nice reading

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3404794/jordair-jett-was-ejected-from-the-st.-louisdayton-game-today-...-the-same-game-he-was-inducted-into-the-schools-hall-of-fame

And from A10 Talk:

https://www.a10talk.com/slu-exorcises-its-archbaron-cup-demons/

Frankly, Dayton got their rear ends spanked and Grant was looking for anythign going forward.  He even pulled all his scholarship players at the end lest the big bad Billies hurt a punk or two.  And it wasn't even it, it was Jett.  What a joke.  Smith crying that the fans wouldn't give him the ball.  Elvis jawing it up.  There should be league fines for that entire team leaving their bench for nothing.

 

 

It was one of the biggest sore loser antics I have ever seen.

A fan made the opposing coach mad on the fans home court.  The arrogant coach shows his players how to handle this by walking across the court all swelled up like he wanted to fight to confront the fan.  The coach makes things worse by giving up by pulling all of his starters off the floor.

What a great example that was coach Grant.  Don’t get mad at your players when they swell up on fans in opposing courts when the game is not going your way because coach Grant set the standard.

The Dayton sportsmanship was as bad as I have ever seen.  The bearded assistant coach constantly whined to the officials every break and not just a short conversation it was relentless.  I was yelling whiner at the coach as he cried to the official, I am surprised he did not walk across the court to confront me.

I have been on twitter pointing this out every time I see a tweet about how angry coach Grant is.

Note to coach Grant get over it and be a better teacher.

[papal]

Why wasn't a technical called on Grant for charging all the way across the floor?  He certainly could had incited a brawl.

[AnkielBreakers]

25 minutes ago, papal said:

Why wasn't a technical called on Grant for charging all the way across the floor?  He certainly could had incited a brawl.

I agree. He took a bad situation, which included bad acts by his players, and created a powder keg. If that was the student section, someone probably would have thrown something, and boom!

[Old guy]

Grant was on the way to lose the game and pulled this stunt to get the game disqualified. The opportunity to do so came and he rose up to the occasion. Pulling the best players off was just another way to justify the loss to whoever he answers to. This is my opinion, not fact.

[thatskablamo]

7 minutes ago, Old guy said:

Grant was on the way to lose the game and pulled this stunt to get the game disqualified. The opportunity to do so came and he rose up to the occasion. Pulling the best players off was just another way to justify the loss to whoever he answers to. This is my opinion, not fact.

OG, just curious, but how would that game have been DQ’d? 
even the Kermit Washington game went final. In the all-time-brawl situations even the Malice at the Palace had a final score. 
Maybe collegiate hoops has a different rule in place? I don’t know. Thanks for any clarification! 

[cheeseman]

2 hours ago, papal said:

Why wasn't a technical called on Grant for charging all the way across the floor?  He certainly could had incited a brawl.

I have asked myself the same question - the only thought I have is the refs didn't want to escalate the situation more than Grant already did.  Had they done that Grant might have pulled his team off the court who knows.  Overall I think the matter was handled about as best as it could have been by everybody but Grant and his toddies.  

[cheeseman]

1 hour ago, Old guy said:

Grant was on the way to lose the game and pulled this stunt to get the game disqualified. The opportunity to do so came and he rose up to the occasion. Pulling the best players off was just another way to justify the loss to whoever he answers to. This is my opinion, not fact.

The game would never have been disqualified.  Nothing happened that would have called for that.  He was just throwing a tantrum since things were not going well.  The problem he has is now we are in his head and that is the last place you want your opponent to be.

[JMM28]

Grant should have run on the court to get his guys before they did something dumb (and got their ass whipped by Jordair.) 

Grant's temper tantrum session after that should have resulted in a technical and possibly ejection. Realistically the bigger punishment was having to watch his team getting pantsed for the entire 40 minutes instead of getting a head start to the locker room. 

There also should have been technical(s) assessed to the other staff members/Dayton bench. 

The Dayton bench escalated this much more than it needed to be.

Air Jordair is still a damn legend. 

[Old guy]

2 hours ago, cheeseman said:

The game would never have been disqualified.  Nothing happened that would have called for that.  He was just throwing a tantrum since things were not going well.  The problem he has is now we are in his head and that is the last place you want your opponent to be.

If there had been an actual  fight, the game would have been disqualifies. Of course there was no fight, Jett was extracted from there in time.

[Old guy]

3 hours ago, thatskablamo said:

OG, just curious, but how would that game have been DQ’d? 
even the Kermit Washington game went final. In the all-time-brawl situations even the Malice at the Palace had a final score. 
Maybe collegiate hoops has a different rule in place? I don’t know. Thanks for any clarification! 

If  an actual fight had happened, and you could argue that the Dayton coaching staff got involved to cause one,  the game would have been disqualified.

[cheeseman]

38 minutes ago, Old guy said:

If there had been an actual  fight, the game would have been disqualifies. Of course there was no fight, Jett was extracted from there in time.

From the video Jett had no interest in a fight and frankly Dayton was all theatre.  No fight was going to happen unless the refs let it get out of control and they did not.

[Bills By 40]

Unless you can show us some sort of NCAA rule that says it would've been disqualified you're just blowing smoke. There's no way the NCAA makes a game between two top-60 teams end 90% through the game. @Old guy

[Old guy]

22 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said:

Unless you can show us some sort of NCAA rule that says it would've been disqualified you're just blowing smoke. There's no way the NCAA makes a game between two top-60 teams end 90% through the game. @Old guy

Lets boomerang this post a bit, "unless you can show us some sort of NCAA  rule that says it would not have been disqualified you are just blowing smoke." I do not know the refs or NCAA rules, and I believe you do not either.

Your last sentence; "There's no way the NCAA makes a game between two top-60 teams end 90% through the game." is entirely your personal opinion.

[JMM28]

19 minutes ago, Old guy said:

Lets boomerang this post a bit, "unless you can show us some sort of NCAA  rule that says it would not have been disqualified you are just blowing smoke." I do not know the refs or NCAA rules, and I believe you do not either.

Your last sentence; "There's no way the NCAA makes a game between two top-60 teams end 90% through the game." is entirely your personal opinion.

This is drivel. 
 

[dlarry]

There have been plenty of fights during NCAA basketball games and the game is never “disqualified.”

 

Im ashamed of myself for even responding. This is just silly.

[David King]

6 hours ago, Old guy said:

Grant was on the way to lose the game and pulled this stunt to get the game disqualified. The opportunity to do so came and he rose up to the occasion. Pulling the best players off was just another way to justify the loss to whoever he answers to. This is my opinion, not fact.

You're probably correct. Grant was playing the old disqualification angle. 

Does anybody here know how a disqualification would affect the Bill's NET ranking?

[HoosierPal]

How does a game get ‘disqualified’?  A player can be disqualified but I have never heard of a game being ‘disqualified’. 
Forfeited yes. 
Game terminated during play yes. 
But never DQ’d. 

[slufanskip]

21 minutes ago, David King said:

You're probably correct. Grant was playing the old disqualification angle. 

Does anybody here know how a disqualification would affect the Bill's NET ranking?

Depends on whether you win or lose the fight. 
 

As per NCAA rule 23.32 subsection C. I quote “in the event of a disqualification due to fighting the NCAA toughness quotient will be immediately applied and should be used to determine any positive or negative effect on the NCAA net rating. If a clear winner of the fight can be determined the team that won the fight shall receive  a 10 net point gain. The team determined to be the loser shall have a 10 net point loss. If no clear winner can be determined neither teams net rating shall be affected.” 
 

Based upon the above rule which is very clear, I think the attempt by Grant to get the game disqualified was a miscalculation. We have Fred Thatch. 

[willie]

You know Skip since you didn’t use blue some will say it’s unfair. 

[billiken_roy]

Skip that was one of your all time best posts.   made my day on billikens.com

[Dr. Holly Hills]

Maybe Jordaire should have given the ball back immediately, but either way, it was a gross over reaction by Grant.  The refs were standing right there and didn’t do anything about jordaire because there was nothing to do.  He never left his seat, and was barely talking sh*t.  Only reason he was escorted out were at the demands of Dayton coaching staff.

[Old guy]

1 hour ago, JMM28 said:

This is drivel. 
 

No, it  is not drivel, it is opinion. For rules check the post by sulfanskip above. There are NCAA rules for disqualification due to fighting. You happen to be among the ones (me included) that do not know the rules.