Bay Area Billiken Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 CBS Sports line is SLU -3, o145. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Gimme the Bills and the Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 Caesar’s Sportsbook has SLU -3.5. ESPN.com Matchup Predictor has SLU with 75.8% chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 For all the talk about the trouble we had against the zone, we were pretty good offensively last night averaging 1.1 points per possession. We have to play better defensively tonight. dlarry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 minute ago, brianstl said: For all the talk about the trouble we had against the zone, we were pretty good offensively last night averaging 1.1 points per possession. We have to play better defensively tonight. agreed. Was almost like we were so focused on how to beat the zone, we lapsed on D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Disagree, I think the hustle put out by IL State threw off our ball handling and caused an excess of turn overs that we had trouble controlling. As Taj mentioned the refs sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 With that big three of Reeves, Chatman and Freeman, Illinois State will make a lot of defenses look bad this year. billiken_roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoneelse Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 18 minutes ago, Old guy said: Disagree, I think the hustle put out by IL State threw off our ball handling and caused an excess of turn overs that we had trouble controlling. As Taj mentioned the refs sucked. Do we know who the refs are tonight? I understand if that information is kept secret, but how many refs are in Cancun right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 19 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: With that big three of Reeves, Chatman and Freeman, Illinois State will make a lot of defenses look bad this year. Agree, pretty solid club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Collins needs to simply lock down Kachelries. He got way too many easy looks, open pathway to the rim, against SFA. Then our tandem of Linssen and Okoro need to neutralize Kensmil. And can Hargroves handle Solomon? Thatch may see more minutes as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 41 minutes ago, someoneelse said: Do we know who the refs are tonight? I understand if that information is kept secret, but how many refs are in Cancun right now? It’s gotta be the same crew that reffed the game yesterday, right? Why would they fly multiple officiating crews to Cancun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 What is the @The Wizline? For some reason I have a feeling it is going to be north of 3 points. Might have to throw a little cash on the billies. I bet Ill St +13 at -150 last night and that was easy. Tonight the bills roll baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 54 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: It’s gotta be the same crew that reffed the game yesterday, right? Why would they fly multiple officiating crews to Cancun. I'm pretty sure they've had 4 games per day. So they would have at least have 2 crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 Sagarin has SLU by 6.3, rounded off to 6. Ratings: SLU- NET 52, Sagarin 53, ESPN BPI 57, Pomeroy 94, RPI 119; SFA- NET 142, Sagarin 121, ESPN BPI 184, Pomeroy 135, RPI 40. While it should be a tough game, if SLU plays well, better than last night vs. ISU, SLU should win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 What could possibly have ended up as a Q2 game v Buffalo is now likely to end up a Q3 game with SFA. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 4 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: What could possibly have ended up as a Q2 game v Buffalo is now likely to end up a Q3 game with SFA. Oh well. That is a tough break for SLU, a slightly unanticipated one. Buffalo's NET is 86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 This should be merged with the existing GDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 15 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: That is a tough break for SLU, a slightly unanticipated one. Buffalo's NET is 86. The truth is that we don't know either team's NET because the NET rankings haven't been released yet. Also, it doesn't really matter what the NET is at the time you play a team, only what it is at the end of the season. For all we know Stephen F. Austin could easily pass Buffalo in the computer rankings (including NET) as the year goes on. It seems to me that college basketball fans these days are way too quick to cite rankings such as KenPom or T-Rank this early in the season. Two years ago we started as KenPom 142 in the nation and finished the season 62. In 2014-2015 we started the season as KenPom 82 so a win against us on a neutral site in November would've looked like a solid win. We finished that year ranked 289th in the nation on KenPom. Stephen F Austin is a good team with a lot of veterans who have won big games before (they won at Duke just two years ago). They have transfers from Texas A&M and Kansas coming off the bench. I don't feel confident about saying Buffalo would be a better win than SFA when it's all said and done. Crewsorlose, SLU_Nick and 3star_recruit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 7 minutes ago, NH said: The truth is that we don't know either team's NET because the NET rankings haven't been released yet. Also, it doesn't really matter what the NET is at the time you play a team, only what it is at the end of the season. For all we know Stephen F. Austin could easily pass Buffalo in the computer rankings (including NET) as the year goes on. An unofficial NET is out there, at cbssports.com, just like facsimiles of the RPI were out there. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierrelaclede Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Is this game being broadcast on television tonight? Can’t find that info anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 8 minutes ago, pierrelaclede said: Is this game being broadcast on television tonight? Can’t find that info anywhere. CBSSportsNet. All TV information is always available here https://slubillikens.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule RUBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgbilliken Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 6 minutes ago, pierrelaclede said: Is this game being broadcast on television tonight? Can’t find that info anywhere. The SLU athletics site posts it. Suggest bookmarking this: 2021-22 Men's Basketball Schedule - Saint Louis University (slubillikens.com) Tonight's on CBSSports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 2 hours ago, 3star_recruit said: With that big three of Reeves, Chatman and Freeman, Illinois State will make a lot of defenses look bad this year. i was tremendously impressed with those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 20 minutes ago, NH said: The truth is that we don't know either team's NET because the NET rankings haven't been released yet. Also, it doesn't really matter what the NET is at the time you play a team, only what it is at the end of the season. For all we know Stephen F. Austin could easily pass Buffalo in the computer rankings (including NET) as the year goes on. It seems to me that college basketball fans these days are way too quick to cite rankings such as KenPom or T-Rank this early in the season. Two years ago we started as KenPom 142 in the nation and finished the season 62. In 2014-2015 we started the season as KenPom 82 so a win against us on a neutral site in November would've looked like a solid win. We finished that year ranked 289th in the nation on KenPom. Stephen F Austin is a good team with a lot of veterans who have won big games before (they won at Duke just two years ago). They have transfers from Texas A&M and Kansas coming off the bench. I don't feel confident about saying Buffalo would be a better win than SFA when it's all said and done. For the reasons you've cited, I think fans are better off using the eye test the first month of the season. If a team consistently outperforms their early season ranking, it's obvious their early season ranking is wrong. There are teams who are ranked low because they lost their leading scorer only to have someone else unexpectedly emerge as a dominant scorer. rgbilliken and Bizziken 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 SFA is 22nd in the nation in offensive rebounding, but also one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the nation at 272nd. Also they rank 33rd in steals per game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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