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  1. While everyone likes to gripe about their tax rates in the US, tax rates are much higher in Europe as well.
  2. Back in the '80s, Georgia Tech had Yvon Joseph who was 27 and playing for the Yellow Jackets. Georgetown had Ronnie Highsmith, who did a stint in the Army, and was 28 and playing for the Hoyas.
  3. At a state school, the university president is as much of a political job, as it is academic/administrative. Gotta keep the gov/legislators happy. As I see it, at the state schools, the gov/legislators are the only ones who can keep the status quo. If they want to keep the status quo, that is.
  4. They can have a historic Rose Bowl match up every year.
  5. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any son coaches that did as well as their father, Pitino, Thompson, Knight, Iba. Maybe I'm missing some high achieving sons.
  6. Boom!!! I wish the retiring Coach McKillop well. It was a joy to watch his teams play. As for the A-10, I'm a little sad, he was a good coach and a quality guy. The conference took a bit of a step back.
  7. I'm actually in this industry and question I ask is, 'who is putting up their own money to make this work? No one has given me an answer. The container vessels moving up and down the river aren't free and can't be used for anything else. Has anyone raised their hand and said, 'yes, put me down for 2 container vessels to move containers up and down the river.' It may work, it may not, but it takes a lot of other people's money to get the conversation started.
  8. I don't get it. How is Colonials different than Colonists? While I get Patriots is also a good name, is it too late for 'Rebels' to be repurposed into those taking part in the rebellion vs King George? I guess so, but I wish not.
  9. Rade: You gotta have five out there! Coach Norman Dale: Sit... down! Referee: You need one more, coach. Coach Norman Dale: My team's on the floor! Not trying being snarky, but having five or forfeiting reminds of this exchange in 'Hoosiers.'
  10. From today's Wall Street Journal. Not exactly stuff I didn't know except for Some even claim 501(c)3 status to make donors’ contributions tax deductible. The Kansas Jayhawks won the NCAA men’s basketball title in early April. A few weeks later, members of the team are on a barnstorming tour that will let them monetize their success in a way that was never possible until now. Members of the title team stand to collectively make nearly $1 million during a six-week trek to seven gyms around the state. The Jayhawks will sign autographs for adoring fans, auction off game-worn sneakers and shoot around—but not play games or scrimmage—during the events. Jayhawks star Ochai Agbaji will likely soon sign an NBA contract worth as much as $5 million as a first-round pick, but most of the touring players will return to the team next year. All of it is being organized by Kansas alumni who are explicitly banding together to line players’ pockets—and it’s all perfectly legal. The “KU Basketball Barnstorming Tour” is being organized by a new and disruptive entity in college sports: “collectives” of supporters that operate outside the normal universe of the university and its athletic department. Collectives are companies, usually founded by well-connected and well-resourced alumni, whose sole aim is to pool the financial resources of a university’s fan base and direct funds to athletes who are now able to profit from their name, image and likeness under new rules that went into place last year. NEWSLETTER SIGN-UP Grapevine A weekly look at our most colorful, thought-provoking and original feature stories on the business of life. PREVIEW SUBSCRIBE The rapid rise of collectives is among the forces that have turned college sports upside down in the past year and ripped control away from the National Collegiate Athletic Association since a Supreme Court ruling last year constrained the association’s ability to set national standards without running afoul of antitrust law. Then last week, NCAA president Mark Emmert announced that he was stepping down by “mutual agreement” no later than June 2023, a sign the association is seeking a new vision as it rethinks its structure and role. Emmert’s contract had been extended just a year ago. College athletes have spent the past 10 months in a dizzying frenzy to make money from their names. The rise of alumni-funded collectives is now creating an organized, deep-pocketed approach to athlete compensation. Some collectives operate via a subscription model that solicits monthly dues from members, while others function as nonprofits. Some even claim 501(c)3 status to make donors’ contributions tax deductible. “There is a wide spectrum of structure and legitimacy,” said Blake Lawrence, chief executive of Opendorse, a platform that connects brands with athletes. “The worst thing that could happen in the NIL collective space is that those with great intentions cause great harm to the student athletes and to the school by not knowing or following the rules.” Interactions between boosters and recruits are verboten in college sports, but some collectives are skirting this by dangling lucrative endorsement deals to prospective athletes. Administrators are now rushing to stop this activity, which looks discomfitingly like “pay for play.” A task force reviewing NCAA rules in this space could issue new guidelines as soon as next week. Collectives are becoming a key part of the arms race that once saw universities build lavish athletic facilities and inflate coaching salaries. There’s a growing fear that the best recruits will go wherever the money is highest—and that, without a collective, a university will miss out on that talent. “What you’re seeing is short-term thinking by a lot of desperate universities that are trying to throw donor money in buying players,” said Phillip Stutts, a political marketing executive who is working as a senior adviser to High Tide Traditions, a collective associated with the University of Alabama. The national landscape is disjointed. Data compiled by the Business of College Sports shows that 37 of the 65 schools in the five richest athletic conferences have at least one collective. Ten more have similar deal-facilitating entities. Twelve schools have duplicate collectives and five universities (Florida, Florida State, Penn State, Texas and Virginia Tech) own three apiece, which some analysts say is counterproductive. “There’s a finite amount of money that can be brought in,” Stutts said. “When you have four collectives competing against each other for the same piece of the pie they will cannibalize themselves.” Current NCAA rules prohibit name, image and likeness deals from functioning as overt inducements to attend a university. Coaches can’t promise specific deals. Yet nothing is stopping them from boasting to recruits about the school’s collective’s pot of money or citing six-figure deals star players have struck. Policing this aspect of the NCAA guidelines is close to impossible. In April, Kansas State point guard Nijel Pack, the top available player in the transfer portal, announced he was enrolling at the University of Miami. Pack said he picked the Hurricanes for their “NBA-style offense” and coach Jim Larranaga’s history of ushering small-statured point guards into the NBA. Kansas State point guard Nijel Pack, the top available player in the transfer portal, announced he was enrolling at the University of Miami. PHOTO: JAY BIGGERSTAFF/USA TODAY SPORTS Hours after Pack committed, LifeWallet, an app that collates medical records and is owned by billionaire Miami athletics booster John Ruiz, signed Pack to a two-year deal worth $800,000—and threw in a car for good measure. The deal wasn’t associated with Miami’s collective, Bring Back the U, but Ruiz might as well be a one-man version: thus far he’s sponsored more than 100 Hurricanes athletes. Miami last month also landed two of the most marketable female athletes in the country, twins Haley and Hanna Cavinder, basketball players at Fresno State with more than 4 million followers on TikTok whose deal with Boost Mobile put their faces on a billboard in Times Square last summer. Their announcement came shortly after a meeting with Ruiz where the billionaire offered to sponsor them. “They made a decision to move. I’m not saying it was entirely or even that NIL played a big part in that, but certainly it sits in the back of everyone’s mind,” said Darren Heitner, an adjunct professor at the University of Florida’s law school who handles legal matters for the Cavinders. The NCAA says that endorsement deals cannot become a thinly veiled vehicle for pay for play, meaning there must be a quid pro quo involved between the athlete and whoever is paying them. But absent a mature and transparent market where the going rate for certain deals is defined, there is nothing stopping a collective from promising whoever earns the starting quarterback gig $10,000 for a single autograph-signing session. Additionally, the NCAA has been loath to regulate this aspect of college athletes cashing in. The association has flagged a handful of deals, including one in which a nutrition bar company offered to endorse all walk-ons on Brigham Young’s football team. But the NCAA hasn’t doled out punishment for flouting the rules, which are so vague that it’s hard to prove anything is illegal. Some collectives are offering lucrative deals to entire rosters. Last month, former Oklahoma football coach Barry Switzer unveiled “1Oklahoma,” a collective that aims to give every member of the Sooners football team “the opportunity to earn $40,000 to $50,000 each year” by endorsing charities of their choosing, according to a press release. At 110 players strong in 2021, that could mean raising as much as $5 million per year. It’s unclear if that level of fundraising is sustainable. Division I athletic departments brought in $1.38 billion from donations in 2021, the lowest total since 2011, according to data from Syracuse University and the Knight Commission. Not all of that money will be redirected to college athletes, Lawrence cautioned, but the donor pool is deep. Haley Cavinder, left, and Hanna Cavinder announced that they are transferring to Miami. PHOTO: ERIC PAUL ZAMORA/ASSOCIATED PRESS Ryan Baty—a former Kansas baseball player who, with his brother, founded the collective putting on the Jayhawks’ barnstorming tour—says that decades of prohibitions on paying college athletes has created pent-up demand among eager boosters. Their limited liability corporation, 6th Man Strategies, has set up half-dozen car deals, campaigns with local Wendy’s and Applebees and in December added a 501(c)3 charitable arm, Reaching Champions Joining Hearts Foundation, Inc., that has since raised more than $2 million. Baty expects to bring in about $900,000 from its barnstorming tour. The majority of that revenue will go to the Jayhawks basketball players, who will reap 70% of ticket sales and all profits from a series of silent auctions. The tour’s first stop in Wichita on April 23 brought in about $125,000 in revenue, selling 250 VIP tickets at $75 each and more than 2,500 general admission tickets for $30, and another $30,000 from the auction.
  11. I don't like Yuri playing 35. My belief is that one reason we lost leads in the final 7 minutes or so is that Yuri was fatigued. Rest him and have him fresh down the stretch. That assumes we get a quality back up PG.
  12. I'm imagining his coach being mad at him saying, 'CHRIST, Essandoko!!' 'Yes, coach. what do you need me for?' The name does not reach God Shammgod levels of greatness, but almost.
  13. Regarding #1--Conference records could get really distorted. The 'tallest dwarf' could have a significantly better record than the 'smallest giant.' While the smallest giant probably isn't dancing at large anyway, it gives them a tough road in the conference tourney.
  14. I would also add that the schools would fight over a union being formed, as employees can form unions. Schools hate when grad students do it; they'll especially hate it if a player strike is a possibility. A school's union contract with basketball players could have appeal to a player deciding where to go.
  15. With no inside information at all, the 30MM to the players on a year in year out basis doesn't pass the smell test for me. That's 3MM to the five starters, 2MM to the five guys in the rotation, and 1MM to the five non-playing time players. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
  16. NBA Rookie minimum is 1.6MM. In a certain situations, you're bidding against the pros, not just other schools. I have no idea how much of a lock this guy is to make the NBA. I hope he buys insurance against injury/future earnings (if possible) with the 2MM.
  17. I don't (or didn't) boo college athletes because, well, they were college athletes, representing their school. I may have to rethink things on that issue.
  18. Does anyone have verifiable numbers as to what players are getting for NIL? Markets are fluid and sometimes irrational, yes, but we know what the G League pays, but verifiable NIL numbers seem hard to come by.
  19. Yuri must be a heck of an actor. He can show Javon Pickett around, be enough of a host to get Pickett to come to SLU, all the while knowing he wasn't fully committed to the SLU program.
  20. Small quibble. I would hope that Hughes is willing to earn his turn (whenever it comes), rather than wait his turn. This isn't a board game.
  21. LH Sr earned 84MM in the NBA, according to the internet. Cut that in half for taxes and agents, that's still 42 MM. I hope there's enough left over that he can pay full freight. Everyone does like a discount, yes.
  22. This says the TF wants to win now. He didn't target a player who is good, but could get better. He got a one and done guy, to go with JP's last year. So this is the year. I'm excited! As someone above intimated, if the coach do something special with this roster (assuming Yuri comes back), he has reached the height of his coaching aptitude here.
  23. Don Knotts as Ralph Furley gives Matta a run for the money as oldest looking 54 year old. He was 55 when he started on Three's Company.
  24. Sad to see this. I had envisioned him as a player who would develop, then contribute. Maybe he wants to skip the develop part.
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