billikens747 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, bauman said: Sorry, but I couldn't find the answer myself. Where is the link to the AP poll voter votes? https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/saint-louis-billikens/2020 bauman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Adman Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, bauman said: What about the idiot from Baton Rouge who didn't vote for us after we whipped LSU? That would be Sheldon Mickles. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/sheldon-mickles/2020/pre-season And yes, has still not voted for us. Fan Guy, bauman and JettFlight5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bauman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Assuming we beat Evansville by 25+ will that be enough to get us into the top 25? It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. It would be nice if Indiana could beat Fla St which is currently around #20 It takes a lot for the voters to leave the blue bloods out. They get into the top 25 and are entrenched there, almost no matter what they do. Look how much it took for an unproven UK to finally fall out of the rankings. (Yes OG, when I say "rankings" I am referring to top 25 in the AP and Coaches polls) billiken_roy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JettFlight5 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, bauman said: Assuming we beat Evansville by 25+ will that be enough to get us into the top 25? It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. It would be nice if Indiana could beat Fla St which is currently around #20 It takes a lot for the voters to leave the blue bloods out. They get into the top 25 and are entrenched there, almost no matter what they do. Look how much it took for an unproven UK to finally fall out of the rankings. (Yes OG, when I say "rankings" I am referring to top 25 in the AP and Coaches polls) I agree...there is not nearly enough of a punishment for losing in the polls (yes, those schools have built that name value). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3star_recruit Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, bauman said: Assuming we beat Evansville by 25+ will that be enough to get us into the top 25? It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. It would be nice if Indiana could beat Fla St which is currently around #20 It takes a lot for the voters to leave the blue bloods out. They get into the top 25 and are entrenched there, almost no matter what they do. Look how much it took for an unproven UK to finally fall out of the rankings. (Yes OG, when I say "rankings" I am referring to top 25 in the AP and Coaches polls) Va Tech losing by 20 to a Penn St. team that wasn't even receiving votes opens up a spot for Michigan. The loser of the San Diego State/Arizona St game tomorrow opens up another spot. If Indiana or Florida beats Florida State this week, the former will simply replace the latter in the top 25 so no change there. We're in the top 25 next week if we take care of business unless Mizzou pulls off the upset against the Illini. It's a rivalry game so anything can happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoCoBillsFan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, bauman said: Assuming we beat Evansville by 25+ will that be enough to get us into the top 25? It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. It would be nice if Indiana could beat Fla St which is currently around #20 It takes a lot for the voters to leave the blue bloods out. They get into the top 25 and are entrenched there, almost no matter what they do. Look how much it took for an unproven UK to finally fall out of the rankings. (Yes OG, when I say "rankings" I am referring to top 25 in the AP and Coaches polls) nm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RUBillsFan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, bauman said: It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. I agree big name schools tend to get the benefit of the doubt in polls, but I'm not sure UNC should fall out because they lost a game that they were expected to lose at #3 Iowa. Their other loss is a 2 point neutral loss to #13 Texas. They have a good neutral court win over Stanford and have beaten the snot out of Charleston at home and UNLV on a neutral court. If you want teams to play tough schedules, you shouldn't punish them for losing games that they are expected to lose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Wiz Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, bauman said: Assuming we beat Evansville by 25+ will that be enough to get us into the top 25? It will be interesting to see how far UNC falls after losing their second game, this time to Iowa. It would be nice if Indiana could beat Fla St which is currently around #20 It takes a lot for the voters to leave the blue bloods out. They get into the top 25 and are entrenched there, almost no matter what they do. Look how much it took for an unproven UK to finally fall out of the rankings. (Yes OG, when I say "rankings" I am referring to top 25 in the AP and Coaches polls) If we beat Eville by at least 20 pts ...we should make it in...we will be favored by more than 20 pts on Sat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brianstl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Duke doesn't deserve presently to be in the top 25. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3star_recruit Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, brianstl said: Duke doesn't deserve presently to be in the top 25. You know that isn't the way it works, Brian. Losing to a top 10 team drops you 7-8 spots, tops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelC Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: You know that isn't the way it works, Brian. Losing to a top 10 team drops you 7-8 spots, tops. If it drops you at all, Texas moved up 4 spots this week after losing to then #12 Villanova Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3star_recruit Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, MichaelC said: If it drops you at all, Texas moved up 4 spots this week after losing to then #12 Villanova Exactly. The reason Duke will drop after this one is because it's their second loss in a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
courtside Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Lunardi had SLU as an 8 seed in his Dec 8th NCAA Bracketology. http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?iteration=161®ion=3&year=2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slufanskip Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, courtside said: Lunardi had SLU as an 8 seed in his Dec 8th NCAA Bracketology. http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?iteration=161®ion=3&year=2021 Still doesn't quite grasp the situation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SLU_Nick Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, slufanskip said: Still doesn't quite grasp the situation. Absolutely Concur. We will be undefeated through the non-conference and he will have us on the 7-10 line. I am so glad Richmond is taking care of their business. They concern me zero. Bills by 20 against them 2x. then we might start getting some respect rgbilliken 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: Absolutely Concur. We will be undefeated through the non-conference and he will have us on the 7-10 line. I am so glad Richmond is taking care of their business. They concern me zero. Bills by 20 against them 2x. then we might start getting some respect -this is the correct attitude slufanskip 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
courtside Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, slufanskip said: Still doesn't quite grasp the situation. Yep. SLU also isn't getting much yet from Ken Pomeroy's numbers. 37. https://kenpom.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wgstl Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, courtside said: Yep. SLU also isn't getting much yet from Ken Pomeroy's numbers. 37. https://kenpom.com/ I believe I saw that T-rank has SLU at #18 in the country, but like an 8 seed in tournament Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wgstl Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 The short nerdy dude from St Joes has us as an 8 seed against X Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JGR6396 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 If the Bills go 3-0 in the next 3, top 20 ranking is expected.... However, if we go 2-1, what do we think? Do we slide in the 20-25 range, or do we fail to breakout of the notables (receiving votes)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wgstl Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, JGR6396 said: If the Bills go 3-0 in the next 3, top 20 ranking is expected.... However, if we go 2-1, what do we think? Do we slide in the 20-25 range, or do we fail to breakout of the notables (receiving votes)? 2-1 will not get us in, in fact we would prob fall to low- middle in votes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billiken Rich Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, wgstl said: 2-1 will not get us in, in fact we would prob fall to low- middle in votes I think we're in unless ISU is the one we lose..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old guy Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I think we can win all three games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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