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  1. I think as long as things don’t fall through and get too deep into the weeds, many people will be happy and encouraged with how things play out. I did hear that Tony and Pee Wee had a moment this weekend.
  2. I don’t disagree with that. But also keep in mind that this website and social media in general etc…are very tiny fractions of SLU’s fans base. Sometimes people who spend a lot of time there develop a little bit of tunnel vision when reality is different. Many SLU fans would know and perhaps care very little about the AD. But yes, I would agree that money by itself doesn’t qualify someone as being the best decision maker. I think we see that every day in a variety of things. And some boosters are very hands on or hands off depending on the booster. And that’s the case at any school
  3. Yep. Good coach. There are some others out there as well that deserve to be on a list. Amir Abdur-Rahim etc…
  4. I didn’t say whether or not I liked him. I think he’s a better fit socially with some than others. I am probably in the others category. But yes, I have had direct, specific, conversations with some SLU boosters about him where I have point blank asked them what they think of him? I think many here would be surprised and disappointed with some of those replies. Much of it doesn’t match the sentiment of a few disgruntled internet posters.
  5. Lol. It’s a bit where they think I’m Chris May. Brian from SLU’s Athletic Department posted it here previously. Similar to Chris May, I’m not on social media and I don’t have a Twitter account. I laughed. But no, I’m not Chris May. Some would be disappointed to know however that he is popular with SLU boosters. It was a way to distract from being unable to discuss the topic.
  6. Lol. I think you are projecting your frustration. This is what people say and do that can’t discuss the topic which was basketball specific. They change the subject, gaslight, make up disparaging things, repeat them over and over, etc…. Instead of having a calm, normal, basketball specific discussion, where you may even obtain new information, you can’t get out of your own way. And the same few ruin it for everyone else. This is why quite a few people no longer read or post in the basketball threads.
  7. No. You didn’t get it correct. Not even close. Good luck.
  8. Biting the hand that feeds you is…………a strategy.
  9. Your tone sure is different when you send me messages asking me for SLU Men’s Basketball information than it is here. They recently made 8 of 14 NCAA Tourneys in Men’s Basketball, which they didn’t think was good enough, and that’s before they made a bigger commitment to Men’s Basketball. Here’s their Men’s hoops expenses : $13,587,388 https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/ SLU’s was $7,623,032 Here’s their new hoops building: https://www.nashvillepost.com/sports/vandy/vanderbilt-unveils-images-of-basketball-operations-center/article_4746c0f0-5653-11ed-a026-2f8467956be4.html It’s good that SLU is progressing and moving in a positive direction to be more competitive in Men’s Basketball. It helps to know the landscape out there a little bit.
  10. Vandy wanted to move on from Kevin Stallings because he made “only” 7 of the 13 previous NCAA Tourneys with 3 NIT’s mixed in with that. Some of those 5/12 NCAA Tourney upset losses didn’t help. It would have been 8 of 14 NCAA Tourneys for Stallings as Drew made it the following year with Stallings’ roster. And that’s during a time of far less university Admin basketball commitment than they have now. Drew was expected to do better/build off of Stalling. After that first season, he struggled the next two seasons with 13th and 14th place finishes. Their AD retired, and he unexpectedly passed away at breakfast a week later. Their next/new AD fired Drew without ever meeting him. Stack was hired as an inexperienced college coach hired by his new AD friend, an AD that lasted one year because he in part, spent too much money. Now Vandy has an athletics friendly Chancellor. They have a Vandy lifer AD, a former Women’s basketball player there. She recently hired a long time UConn assistant (on staff for 6 national titles) to be their Women’s Basketball Head Coach. She recently secured a top 10 national recruit from Rutgers Prep. And they have a strong Men’s Basketball budget. They have $$$. Stack is getting big money to go away, significantly more $ than Ford. They have their Anchor Impact Collective, a new 90,000 square feet basketball only building opening this year, a new athletes village, and over $300 million worth of athletics projects. Even their newly renovated football stadium recently sold out the North End Zone at $1100 a ticket for this Fall. They recently added a Women’s Volleyball program, which begins play this Fall. That HC was the Associate HC of the recent UK National Title team and 6 straight SEC Titles. Chris Mack’s daughter is on the team. (She was formerly a Mizzou commit.) And they are expected to add Women’s Softball soon. Vandy’s baseball coach makes Travis Ford level SLU money. Their basketball and football coaches have been making $3 million plus and $4 million plus.
  11. Good luck to Gershon, who was called up by the Finland National Team. https://slubillikens.com/news/2024/3/15/mens-soccer-gershon-henry-called-to-finlands-national-team.aspx
  12. One of SLU’s top candidates is connected with a specific search firm, but not the one Stu mentioned.
  13. SLU has had a top 3 for some time, well before the coaching change announcement. The Ahearn booster move was more of a last year thing than a this year thing. A different coach was approached by some SLU boosters this year. My initial reaction was skeptical that the coach in question would take the job. But these boosters were emphatic about it. If SLU doesn’t secure one of their top 3 choices, they will pivot to some other names. Some of those would be good or not ideal fits based on the individual in question. My two cents personal opinion is that they won’t get either of their top 2 choices. (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing) They might get their 3rd. And it’s another year where different boosters want different coaches. And the list isn’t the same. Also remember, someone else’s first choice might not be the best choice, and someone else’s 6th or 7th choice may be a better pick or fit. Many (not all) of the names are reasonable.
  14. That’s why the source of information and credibility matters. There are non-credible outlets that regularly share misinformation. Yet somehow desperate and/or lazy information seekers keep coming back for more. “Coaching Changes” is a good example of this. They said Moser was going to DePaul. Then they said it was 90%. Then they blamed their source. Then they said they jumped the gun, it happens. And that would be all fine and good if they had a mostly accurate track record or didn’t trash people on a regular basis while not allowing replies. Yet some people keep going back for more and more. Maybe they like the shouting and trashing of people. Look at their tweet from yesterday about SLU as an example. Or their tweets yesterday trashing the Vandy AD because they were wrong about Stack staying. The problem with those tweets are that Stack and the Vandy AD are close friends. There were no surprises for Stack. Many of their tweets contradict one another so they can simply point to the one that is somewhat more accurate. So, it’s up to the consumer of information to consider the credibility of the source that produces their information. A surprising number of consumers believe non credible places and later get dismayed when much of their information doesn’t ring true. And they repeat the cycle. It doesn’t take much effort to distinguish between the two.
  15. Regarding cycles through assistants quickly, if anything it’s the opposite. Roger Powell Jr was on staff 8 years. He only left because Drew lost his job. And, he went to Gonzaga for 4 years before getting the HC position at Valpo. Jake Diebler was on staff 10 years with Drew after also playing an additional 4 years at Valpo. He only left because Drew lost his Job. He went to Ohio State. Walker, Schilling, and Shaw have all been with Drew the entire time at GCU. It’s the 2nd time he’s worked with Shaw for a total of 6 seasons. Drew has long been connected with Athlete’s in Action and several of his connections have been through that. Drew’s Vandy tenure was recruiting 5 star future NBA players, some but not all with season long injuries. He didn’t think his league record mattered that much in a bad 3rd season. He thought wrong. He probably would have received one more season with the previous retiring AD.. The new AD had a long term relationship with Stack via the NBA and G League. That new AD lasted one year before being replaced. The knock on Drew was not being able to be more competitive than he was with high level recruits. Most thought his dismissal was fair, if a year early. But he has many long term loyal relationships with assistants and staff.
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