billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: This is a must win if we want to have a chance at an at large bid Let go Bills! FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: This is a must win if we want to have a chance at an auto-bid. Let go Bills! i think you mean an at large bid. auto bid means winning in Brooklyn in March. i totally agree our at large bid will still be possible with a win tomorrow. if we lose tomorrow, a 70 NET wont cut it. probably the highest at large will be under 50. and with a possibility that the first place A10 winner will be a 70 NET just wont happen. now we havent seen how the NET will work. i am assuming the rankings wont be all that different than rpi but we shall see if a monster A-10 record, with maybe just 3 or less losses against very mediocre to bad teams like the a-10 is shaping up to be will still pull that good of a ranking. i am doubting it will. we need to win tomorrow. Adman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills71 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Pistol said: He's saying that the site of this game is pretty far from FSU's campus, so even though it's in the same state, it's not as much of a home game as you'd think. ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Legend Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Isn't this the first game of a doubleheader? It's quite possible that the next game's fans show up in the second half and root for the Billikens, sort of like a first day NCAA set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: This is a must win if we want to have a chance at an auto-bid. Let go Bills! You're confusing the terminology. An automatic bid is the result of winning the conference tournament. That's the only criterion. At-large bids are awarded by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee based on criteria of the members' choosing. A win over FSU would help SLU's chances for an at-large bid. (Forgive me if someone else has already made this clear after Page 1.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgbilliken Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Littlebill said: It is in the same state - if FGCU played Kansas anywhere in the state of Kansas, it wouldn't be neutral FWIW, KU's win percentage is like 15 points lower at the Sprint center in KC than at Allen Field House. Still not really neutral, but definitely not the same advantage as playing in your home court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: You're confusing the terminology. An automatic bid is the result of winning the conference tournament. That's the only criterion. At-large bids are awarded by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee based on criteria of the members' choosing. A win over FSU would help SLU's chances for an at-large bid. (Forgive me if someone else has already made this clear after Page 1.) Oops I meant at large. Thanks for correcting me haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Chaifetz has a home in Miami. Team is heading there this afternoon/evening. Biggest upset of this season might be finding any situation in which Thor or Isabell actually smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 9 hours ago, GBL_Bills said: Something I've always wondered. What contributes most to a home court advantage? Surely the crowd plays some sort of role, meaning a non-neutral crowd on a neutral court will be slightly more like a home game. But do the actual physical attributions of the court count more? Background behind the net, weird reflections from a particular light, etc? 9 hours ago, SShoe said: Pomeroy did some analysis on this a few years back. IIRC, he attributed it mostly to the refs. ESPN highlighted some similar research a few years back that attributed home field/court advantage primarily to the effect (conscious or unconscious) that the crowd has on the refs. This was especially true in baseball and basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, rgbilliken said: FWIW, KU's win percentage is like 15 points lower at the Sprint center in KC than at Allen Field House. Still not really neutral, but definitely not the same advantage as playing in your home court. That could have a lot to do with who they play in Lawrence vs KC. Generally the KC games are against high(er) quality opposition. rgbilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_davola Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, ARon said: Biggest upset of this season might be finding any situation in which Thor or Isabell actually smile. Who's the mafia hitman looking guy that is always courtside with the good doctor? He's three people over from the doc (left when looking at picture). Love that guy. Spoon-Balls and brianstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 While this is continuing to be a bit off topic.....Here is an interesting article that discusses NCAA BB home field advantage and then lists all D-1 teams in order of advantage https://www.boydsbets.com/college-basketball-home-court-advantage/ A few interesting notes....The Bills come in at 81st with 4.17 pts Others of interest.....Pitt....255th....2.7 pts.......could have been the difference ...................................SIU....156th....3.59 pts........almost ...................................Hou....14th.....5.41 pts...again , could have been the difference btw...while KU comes in at a nice 23rd place....it's advantage is 5.18 pts....while a big advantage, it is a far cry from 15 pts. Denver's high altitude captures the #1 spot with 7.03 pts. rgbilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Very familiar with BB&T as we lived in South FL and my company was a sponsor of the Arena. We moved to Lakewood Ranch, FL a couple years ago. Never attended this double header and had hoped to attend this year, but the timing didn't workout. We'll be watching and hoping for a Bills win VS FSU. I would hope that we keep this game in the 60's which should be our best chance for a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Vegas spread 8 pts in favor of FSU. Expected scores: SLU 65.2, FSU 73.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Injury update.... 12/19.....Wiley....Questionable....Thigh....unknown if he will play against FSU 12/20....Cofer.....Questionable...Foot...undetermined if he will play against SLU....Star forward who has been out all season....made his debut against SEMO 2 games ago ....played 5 min....sat out the next game.... 12/21....Walker...Questionable...Ankle...Unclear if he will play against SLU....FSU starting guard...would be a big loss to FSU if he doesn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 16 hours ago, HoosierPal said: We are 1-11 all time versus Florida State. Time to start tipping that scale our way. Anyone see any of the old games v FSU in the Metro Conference? Last meeting was 1/23/1982. @billiken_roy, you were there right? Ha, this will date me, I recall the 1st game we ever played FL State. It was 01/04/72. We lost by 1, 62-63. That year FL State went to the NCAA Finals and lost to a John Wooden UCLA team by 5. For that year we had junior Harry Rogers. For me, one of the best players to put on a Billiken uniform. Only if Harry had a 3pt line and a freshmen season, no one would be touching his records. HoosierPal, almaman and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 The post article said that Wiley practiced Friday. dont know if that means he will play but I took it as good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: Injury update.... 12/19.....Wiley....Questionable....Thigh....unknown if he will play against FSU 12/20....Cofer.....Questionable...Foot...undetermined if he will play against SLU....Star forward who has been out all season....made his debut against SEMO 2 games ago ....played 5 min....sat out the next game.... 12/21....Walker...Questionable...Ankle...Unclear if he will play against SLU....FSU starting guard...would be a big loss to FSU if he doesn't play. In addition, Welmer is officially off crutches. Still recovering, but the team has set a goal for him to be game-ready by February. Credit to Welmer for never giving up on his basketball career after injury and injury again. A truly passionate player. Kid deserves to get a few more games under his belt, and to take part in a magical run in March. moytoy12, GBL_Bills, Gremio14 and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 11 hours ago, ARon said: Biggest upset of this season might be finding any situation in which Thor or Isabell actually smile. C Tate is the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheOne said: In addition, Welmer is officially off crutches. Still recovering, but the team has set a goal for him to be game-ready by February. Credit to Welmer for never giving up on his basketball career after injury and injury again. A truly passionate player. Kid deserves to get a few more games under his belt, and to take part in a magical run in March. I am glad to hear Welmer is off the crutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheOne said: In addition, Welmer is officially off crutches. Still recovering, but the team has set a goal for him to be game-ready by February. Credit to Welmer for never giving up on his basketball career after injury and injury again. A truly passionate player. Kid deserves to get a few more games under his belt, and to take part in a magical run in March. I’m definitely pulling for him. Not necessarily because it would be a boost to the team (it will be if he’s healthy), but for the reasons you said above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, TheOne said: In addition, Welmer is officially off crutches. Still recovering, but the team has set a goal for him to be game-ready by February. Credit to Welmer for never giving up on his basketball career after injury and injury again. A truly passionate player. Kid deserves to get a few more games under his belt, and to take part in a magical run in March. Thanks for the update....Didn't mean to slight him ....With the status of Out Indefinitely, he just fell off the list. If he can get healthy, he can contribute some valuable minutes down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, TheOne said: In addition, Welmer is officially off crutches. Still recovering, but the team has set a goal for him to be game-ready by February. Credit to Welmer for never giving up on his basketball career after injury and injury again. A truly passionate player. Kid deserves to get a few more games under his belt, and to take part in a magical run in March. Holy fuok. They must have gotten that magic spray trainers in the Premier League use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 17 hours ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: This is a must win if we want to have a chance at an at-large. Let go Bills! 17 hours ago, billiken_roy said: i totally agree our at large bid will still be possible with a win tomorrow. if we lose tomorrow, a 70 NET wont cut it. probably the highest at large will be under 50. and with a possibility that the first place A10 winner will be a 70 NET just wont happen. now we havent seen how the NET will work. i am assuming the rankings wont be all that different than rpi but we shall see if a monster A-10 record, with maybe just 3 or less losses against very mediocre to bad teams like the a-10 is shaping up to be will still pull that good of a ranking. i am doubting it will. we need to win tomorrow. The Bonnies lost 4 of their first 6 conference games last year after pre-season losses to Niagara and TCU (a tourney team). They also had a couple of pre-season wins over middling P5 teams - Syracuse (who got one of the 4 last bids) and Maryland (no bid). Syracuse ended up taking a tournament run, but that's beside the point. So, sure, a win today would help a lot. But nothing is set in stone before conference play has even started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, Compton said: The Bonnies lost 4 of their first 6 conference games last year after pre-season losses to Niagara and TCU (a tourney team). They also had a couple of pre-season wins over middling P5 teams - Syracuse (who got one of the 4 last bids) and Maryland (no bid). Syracuse ended up taking a tournament run, but that's beside the point. So, sure, a win today would help a lot. But nothing is set in stone before conference play has even started. The A10 was a lot stronger last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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