SLU_Lax Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I just gotta laugh one more time about the Butt Hurt letter sent to the entire student body about how their whole survey was maliciously ruined. They worked for an entire two years on it. They even made sure to spell most of the words right and some of the questions even allowed you to claim you had never been sexually assaulted. Unfortunately they are the (oh so innocent) victims of a terrible act where their 100% open survey with no safeties to ensure people were not taking the survey multiple times (or posting it to a message board for others to take) was taken advantage of. I mean...who could have foreseen this. I guess they never heard the tale of the SS Boaty McBoatface. It is just unbelievably terrible to me that after these mistakes, where they had a real concern about the survey (namely that the results were compromised - of course they cannot take responsibility for that) and they overshadow their concern with starting their email out with terrible lies/exaggerations about how important this survey was and how long they worked on it. They are more petulant than a bunch of young teenagers and about as honest too. Hard to take them seriously. billikenfan05, TRN, dlarry and 2 others like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: I just gotta laugh one more time about the Butt Hurt letter sent to the entire student body about how their whole survey was maliciously ruined. They worked for an entire two years on it. They even made sure to spell most of the words right and some of the questions even allowed you to claim you had never been sexually assaulted. Unfortunately they are the (oh so innocent) victims of a terrible act where their 100% open survey with no safeties to ensure people were not taking the survey multiple times (or posting it to a message board for others to take) was taken advantage of. I mean...who could have foreseen this. I guess they never heard the tale of the SS Boaty McBoatface. It is just unbelievably terrible to me that after these mistakes, where they had a real concern about the survey (namely that the results were compromised - of course they cannot take responsibility for that) and they overshadow their concern with starting their email out with terrible lies/exaggerations about how important this survey was and how long they worked on it. They are more petulant than a bunch of young teenagers and about as honest too. Hard to take them seriously. out of reactions at 8:51am.... good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615Billiken Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: I just gotta laugh one more time about the Butt Hurt letter sent to the entire student body about how their whole survey was maliciously ruined. They worked for an entire two years on it. They even made sure to spell most of the words right and some of the questions even allowed you to claim you had never been sexually assaulted. Unfortunately they are the (oh so innocent) victims of a terrible act where their 100% open survey with no safeties to ensure people were not taking the survey multiple times (or posting it to a message board for others to take) was taken advantage of. I mean...who could have foreseen this. I guess they never heard the tale of the SS Boaty McBoatface. It is just unbelievably terrible to me that after these mistakes, where they had a real concern about the survey (namely that the results were compromised - of course they cannot take responsibility for that) and they overshadow their concern with starting their email out with terrible lies/exaggerations about how important this survey was and how long they worked on it. They are more petulant than a bunch of young teenagers and about as honest too. Hard to take them seriously. It is absolutely ridiculous because EVEN if a student had not posted the survey on here, had just someone pointed out the fact that the link was public, the survey would have been invalidated any way. The problem was never that it was share on a message board, the problem was the link! BTW, sorry @billikenfan05 looks like @MattyMo213 is officially Mr. Billiken AND Mr. St. Louis 2018. Maybe you can be Mr. West County or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Do we know who's on the appeal board? The purpose of this email/post is aligned with the interest and opinion of everyone on this board, but the communication here is very poor. Not only is the language/tone used a bit immature and improper, but the demand as a whole is far fetched. While I’d love for it to be possible, one cannot simply send an email demanding a decision, hope for it to go viral, and achieve a release of punishment TODAY - who in their right mind thinks Pestello will see this email and think “Oh crap, Tony Murkens is pissed! Better release the decision and drop the punishments today!” I’m all for the troll tweets Tony sends, and again his heart is in the right place, but this “letter” is an improper representation of those that want true justice. Silly demands like this will not be answered. Buster likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: I just gotta laugh one more time about the Butt Hurt letter sent to the entire student body about how their whole survey was maliciously ruined. They worked for an entire two years on it. They even made sure to spell most of the words right and some of the questions even allowed you to claim you had never been sexually assaulted. Unfortunately they are the (oh so innocent) victims of a terrible act where their 100% open survey with no safeties to ensure people were not taking the survey multiple times (or posting it to a message board for others to take) was taken advantage of. I mean...who could have foreseen this. I guess they never heard the tale of the SS Boaty McBoatface. It is just unbelievably terrible to me that after these mistakes, where they had a real concern about the survey (namely that the results were compromised - of course they cannot take responsibility for that) and they overshadow their concern with starting their email out with terrible lies/exaggerations about how important this survey was and how long they worked on it. They are more petulant than a bunch of young teenagers and about as honest too. Hard to take them seriously. C’mon, be true to your scool!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, brianstl said: Not quite sure why Turnipseed is getting a hard time here. From all available information he has not played any role in this case so far and it isn’t his fault he is the only male in that office. No problem with Turnipseed. The problem is the 11-1 ratio in the department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 You really couldn't have scripted the Title IX office to look any worse than they just made themselves look. The lawyer from the player comes out and talks about how poor of a job they've done and they basically said, "you think that was bad, watch us screw up this survey." It could've been sent as a PM to everybody on here and they took it and then they wouldn't have known. Add in the spelling mistakes, the fact it was released with an interim person in charge during the highest profile Title IX case they will probably have when they had been "working on it for two years" and it just looks awful. I was extremely skeptical on the Title IX process throughout but no chance I think this was done properly and fairly anymore. They can't even conduct a survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I am genuinely concerned about the incompetence of the current administration at the university. The following is a FB post from a friend of mine whose son was considering SLU for undergrad. I blocked their full name and address, but note his actual first name in the address block (Robert) and the name used in the salutation (Nolan). This kind of mistake reflects poorly on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: You really couldn't have scripted the Title IX office to look any worse than they just made themselves look. The lawyer from the player comes out and talks about how poor of a job they've done and they basically said, "you think that was bad, watch us screw up this survey." It could've been sent as a PM to everybody on here and they took it and then they wouldn't have known. Add in the spelling mistakes, the fact it was released with an interim person in charge during the highest profile Title IX case they will probably have when they had been "working on it for two years" and it just looks awful. I was extremely skeptical on the Title IX process throughout but no chance I think this was done properly and fairly anymore. They can't even conduct a survey. They basically exposed this whole process as nothing but a witch hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, 615Billiken said: It is absolutely ridiculous because EVEN if a student had not posted the survey on here, had just someone pointed out the fact that the link was public, the survey would have been invalidated any way. The problem was never that it was share on a message board, the problem was the link! BTW, sorry @billikenfan05 looks like @MattyMo213 is officially Mr. Billiken AND Mr. St. Louis 2018. Maybe you can be Mr. West County or something. Or if one kid decided to take the same survey multiple times, there is nothing they could have done to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, davidnark said: I am genuinely concerned about the incompetence of the current administration at the university. The following is a FB post from a friend of mine whose son was considering SLU for undergrad. I blocked their full name and address, but note his actual first name in the address block (Robert) and the name used in the salutation (Nolan). This kind of mistake reflects poorly on so many levels. That is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I like how they didn't mention that it took them 2 years of time and effort when they originally sent out the survey. Seems like it would have been good background for the importance of what the students were about to undergo. SLU_Lax likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billfan7 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, davidnark said: I am genuinely concerned about the incompetence of the current administration at the university. The following is a FB post from a friend of mine whose son was considering SLU for undergrad. I blocked their full name and address, but note his actual first name in the address block (Robert) and the name used in the salutation (Nolan). This kind of mistake reflects poorly on so many levels. Has there ever been a time when SLU administration was not the deep clown state? Constantly screwing things up and taking two steps back for every step forward. This type of stuff has been going on there since I went there twenty years ago. They really need to purge DuBourg and hire some new blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Box and Won said: They basically exposed this whole process as nothing but a witch hunt. And this survey fiasco happened after the expiration of the appeals process, such that it can’t be introduced by the accused (no additional comments or responses are allowed by the accused after the appeal is filed). This clusterf*ck of a survey would support both grounds for an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Billfan7 said: Has there ever been a time when SLU administration was not the deep clown state? I really like this term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: And this survey fiasco happened after the expiration of the appeals process, such that it can’t be introduced by the accused (no additional comments or responses are allowed by the accused after the appeal is filed). This clusterf*ck of a survey would support both grounds for an appeal. Won't hurt any litigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Billboy1 said: Won't hurt any litigation -litigation won't save our bball program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Read all the links about male students suing their respective colleges, and winning, after they've been labeled a sex offender. If you were a smart devious type, you'd find a willing partner to have sex with and the next day she accuses you of assault. You get suspended, lose the appeal, and then sue. You then split the settlement with your partner. A word of caution; make sure you're suing a school that has an HO with a strong anti male bias and an administration that doesn't know it's arse from it's elbow. Anyone know a school that fits the bill? TFord and TRavs likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, davidnark said: I am genuinely concerned about the incompetence of the current administration at the university. The following is a FB post from a friend of mine whose son was considering SLU for undergrad. I blocked their full name and address, but note his actual first name in the address block (Robert) and the name used in the salutation (Nolan). This kind of mistake reflects poorly on so many levels. My nephew had the same thing occur. However my daughter did not. They did follow up the acceptance letter with personal phone calls to both. So there is an effort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Cowboy said: -litigation won't save our bball program Don't be so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Billboy1 said: Don't be so sure. -please explain as I see litigation taking a long time and during that period a lot of harm being (self) inflicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Start with an injunction which does not take a lot of time and keep it in force until the matter is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Cowboy said: -litigation won't save our bball program Fear of litigation might, I am still praying that not everyone in the admin is a tone deaf clown, and hopefully some people with weight realize the magnitude of these compounding *** ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm going to guess that the fear of coming across as the next Michigan St is greater than the fear of litigation from the players side. Billiken Rich likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: I'm going to guess that the fear of coming across as the next Michigan St is greater than the fear of litigation from the players side. While I think the two situations have little or nothing in common, you make an unfortunately good point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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