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This NIL stuff is confusing. Cant we just reward/recruit players the old fashioned way? Like sending hookers to their hotel rooms, big duffel bags of cash, and shiny new tractors.

i dont know why you think i am ready to let them go, i would have to liquidate some assets to get the million. i am sure you will match me. funny a week ago mbm's suggested i was crazy for even suggesting we look at nil, today we need a million to keep our players. i think you just like to argue and not just have a conversation, so dont put words in my mouth

I’m going to have a few conversations with folks I think could be a good resource in setting this up and hopefully we can think of something. I envision a pool of $ with a board that decides how that $ is spent. Let’s make something happen and soon! I think I’m fairly unpopular on this board, so please ignore that if I get something going.

We had two before Lorentsson announced and we have two after he announced - Traore

Frankly I am not a fan of the NIL system as it appears to be evolving. Exactly as you said 'buying collegiate players' goes against my grain. Academics aren't even an afterthought in the NIL world. I would rather my $100 go to a student who might make a contribution to society. We will be left with rooting for uniforms, which I will continue to do.

The coaching staff is doing their due diligence on the prep school circuit.

Bonnie’s travelled 5000 miles and beat Colorado, Oklahoma and Virginia on the road. A10 was underrated as much as the Big10 was overrated. Screw the power 5.

I hear you, but Chris May has really put himself in a position where he's going to have to pay high major money. You fire a coach like stone for plateauing after rebuilding your program from the dirt you better be willing to pony up the cash.

players at the blue bloods have always been paid, it will just be easier for them now, that said there are a limited number that are worth the big dollars,

So currently three spots open. Sounds like best case scenario is: 1) Perkins comes back 2) Get a good transfer big to replace Linssen 3) Good Transfer guard to replace Jones

We aren't competing against the A10. We are competing against all 350 teams. Think this could happen? "Hello Yuri, my name is Bill Laurie. My wife, Nancy Walton Laurie, and I just wrote a check for $6,000,000 to buy out Coach Martin. Yes, my one check was it. We now have a new coach, Coach Gates, and he r e a l l y could use a point guard of your capabilities. I'm willing to get you an NIL of $100,000 for each season you spend in Columbia. Your family is only 2 hours away from Columbia, so they can easily make all your games. And heck, I bet I could find a 'new ride' for you that you can let your family use. All you have to do is pose for a photo or two with my family for our Christmas cards and come to my daughter Paige's birthday party."

The good that could come of this is that popular players might stay in school because the money is good and get their degrees.

Nope, I'll only be giving to the popular board members NIL funds...Anyone want to set up a competing NIL fund??

I never understood Rashad Williams' fit on this past season's team. I'll remember him for hitting big 3s against Boise State and Dayton, and for being enthusiastic on the bench despite his limited playing time. Best of luck to him in his next stop. Clearly he has the ability to score the ball in the right situation.

clear up the spots!! bring in huge talent with questionable character!!!

Good stuff, thanks for posting. Based on conversations in DC, I think folks are certainly aware of the potential negative impact NIL could have on SLU, but I also didn't get the sense anyone is taking the lead on it. I have time to help get this going and would be willing to knock on doors so to say. I assume structurally, this would be similar to a PAC?

roster spots did not count for the covid super seniors this year, they will count next and you will have to be at 13. the only billiken super senior this year would have been perkins so he would not have counted against the 13 he will next year

Speaking from experience, the athletic department appears to be taking a hands off approach to NIL. I contacted them with a serious inquiry about NIL deals for players, but was effectively told that they don't want to be involved, but that they could not stop me from contacting the players directly.

You may be right but if he actually has a real offer, I'd assume Huggins has a better idea of how he would fit than anyone on this board. Well, except for those MBM's who after watching Markhi play for 80 minutes over 3 months know his skill level and how to use him better than Coach Ford.

my understanding is you got the roster exemption for the super seniors this year and you had to be back to the 13 limit next year. perkins would not count against the 13 this year but will next year. players still get the extra year but the roster doesnt get extra spots

Wilt Chamberlin, when he was 26 years old, averaged 48.5 minutes per game in the NBA. Yes, games were 48 minutes and he averaged 48.5. [The Warriors played several OT games.] Wilt sat for 8 minutes the entire 80 game season. What the Iron Five are doing pales in comparison.

Teflon.

No he wouldn't

I'm still waiting on the doom and gloom predictions to come true for how mid-major programs will be savaged by free agency. If anything, there's more competitive mid-majors now than there were 2 years ago. At the end of the day, there's way more good players that need a home than there are roster spots at high major programs. It's just math.

Wrong-headed thinking on this one. There will be NIL deals at different levels. Yes Texas, UGA, UCLA etc will be in the top. But if we as a fanbase drag our feet we can fall behind. There's going to be a sweet spot for a upper level A10 school. We have to compete vs the UD's, Creighton, DePauls, Murray St., Tulsa for the better mid-major level talent. How you divvy up funds in a crowd source is up to those involved. The exampless I mentioned in a previous post were equal for anyone playing the position. We could also target a key acquisition. IE we need a back up PG transfer so we would throw out that initiative to someone SLU is targeting. Will there be jealousy, issues with all this? Hell yes there will. But the train has left the station. There's already star players that get media hype and special treatment while others get none. It's another thing to navigate for programs like the transfer portal. If I'm Lou Fusz I'm going NIL for the most recognizable guy. The 3rd string Right Guard for the Cowboys doesn't get the deals Dak gets. That's the world of free market. But fans we can do it however we wanted. Most transactions aren't million $ or hundred-thousand $ deals. Those are just the one's you hear about. Kid's down between DePaul and SLU. SLU boosters have a NIL deal that'll put $200/month in my pocket during the season DePaul doesn't. That might sway 19 year old kid. Certainly can't hurt.

Yeah I had an idea to crowd source NIL deals with members of the board. I floated it to a few people looking for partners to carry the load. I'm down for a $1000 plus some sweat equity. Just kinda hard for me to spearhead something when I live in another state/country than where the players are located. What about you?

I stated that recently, many mbm’s don’t agree, embrace nil or fall behind

I like how we give Ford multiple passes but Stone doesn't get any. Trainwreck, non entity, irrelevant, intramural, dumpster fire. This is what Stone came into. She built the program from scratch. She's the women's version of Rich Grawer, but a much better coach. Stone's staff turnover has been ridiculous. She has no operating budget. Her staff budget has gone up 10% in 10 years. This leads to player morale low, which leads to transfers and player development issues. May making those statements today is ridiculous. He better pony up the cash. A coach with a better pedigree than Stone is coaching for a BCS school and making 700k-1mil per year with Assts making 150k-200k. Our budgets are now where near that. His statements reminded me of empty Biondi posturing. Tall task to find a coach better than Stone who would coach for SLU. Good luck Chris. I hope he makes a Majerus hire, or even a Ford but I think it will be a Soderberg if we are lucky. In this case if we financed our program at a BCS level, we'd win. Our budgets are middle of the road A10 and our results on the floor match them.

Guess it's time to lock this in for the year. I'm showing players in the class they're currently listed in on the roster and will update this if they get moved to other classes in the record book. New listings in the record book are underlined. DeAndre Jones finished .893 from the FT line, which would be third for seniors and fourth all-time for a season, but he didn't reach the minimum 50 attempts required to make that list. Francis Okoro finished .588 from the field, which is good for second in field goal percentage in a season for juniors and sixth overall. His .766 FT% was a bit shy of the .805 needed for junior FT%. He was short of rebounding average but finished with 285 rebounds on the season, good for ninth place among juniors and bumping Bill Morris (278) from the top ten list. He had 42 blocks this season, which leaves him tied in fourth with Kelvin Henderson on the junior list. Marten Linssen ended up with a FG% of .537, just outside the junior list - Bill Paradoski is tenth at .544. His FT% of .766 is also short of the junior list (H Waldman is tenth at .805). He had 18 blocked shots this season and needed 28 to tie for to tie Chris Heinrich in tenth. Rashad Williams was 1.000 from the FT line on 2 attempts, just 48 short of the minimum requirement. Brandon Courtney was .750 from 3, which would be an all-time record if he had 46 more attempts. Fred Thatch ended up short on the FG%, FT%, and 3P% lists for the sophomore class. He had 37 steals and needed to reach 39 (Jordair Jett) to reach the sophomore top ten. Yuri Collins now has 554 career assists and owns the all-time record. He also took the sophomore and all-class season records, now at 267. He has the freshman assist record (171) and his 116 in a shortened season last year ranks sixth among sophomores. His 19 assists vs. BC gave him the all-time single game record, passing Jim Roder's 18. He had 65 steals this season, one short of the sophomore record (Jordan Goodwin, 66) and sixth all-time. He has 134 career steals, now ninth all-time, bumping Kevin Lisch (133) to tenth and LaTodd Johnson and Jamall Walker (132) out of the top ten. He joined SLU's 30-point scorer club with 35 at George Mason, putting him in a 6-way tie for the sixteenth most points ever scored in a game. His FT% of .815 is tied for fourth with Andre Craig for sophomores. Collins played 1,123 minutes this season and finished just 32 minutes short of Jeff Luechtefeld, who is tenth all-time at 1,155. Terrence Hargrove finished .348 from three, short of the .366 mark (Josh Fisher) necessary to make the top ten among sophomores. Gibson Jimerson averaged 16.3 PPG in his third freshman season, second behind only Larry Hughes (20.9) for freshman scoring average. He also finished second behind Hughes (670) in total points in a season for a freshman, with 570. He's already second in freshman three-point field goal percentage at .429, which is also good for eighth on the all-class list, and his .420 3P% this year is fourth for freshmen. His 37 three-pointers last season tied him with Anthony Drejaj and Marcus Bartley for tenth among freshmen, and he finished with 87 threes this season, which is the new freshman record and tied with Erwin Claggett for second all-time. He is also in a 9-way tie for second most 3-pointers in a single game (7), right behind Tommie Liddell's 8, and joined SLU's 30-point scorer club with 31 vs. UMass. His .826 FT% is second among freshmen. Jimerson has a career FT percentage of .828, which is fourth all-time. Jimerson finished with 1,184 minutes on the season, good for sixth all-time. Jordan Nesbitt averaged 8.2 PPG, a little outside the freshman top ten (11.0 PPG, Kwamain Mitchell). He had 288 points and needed 321 to tie Lisch and Milik Yarbrough for ninth among freshmen. His rebounding numbers (4.3 RPG, 149 total) were also short of the numbers he needs (5.6 RPG, 162) for the freshman class top ten, as well. His .337 3P% was behind Scott Highmark's tenth place mark of .369. He had 28 steals and needs to hit 33 (Carlos McCauley) for 10th. Basically, he finished just short of every freshman list and could've made a few with a postseason run. Lassina Traore had a FG% of .606, which would be third among freshmen and fifth overall if he had reached 100 attempts. His .750 FT% would be eighth for freshmen, but he was 42 attempts short. Markhi Strickland did not finish with any freshman records but would've been the season leader in dunks in many years. Andre Lorentsson was .833 from the field and .667 from 3, which would both be records if he could have gotten 44 and 47 more attempts, respectively. Javonte Perkins did not play. After two seasons at SLU, he is tied for 10th all time in scoring average (15.9) with Bill Morris. He has 825 career points and will easily make it into the 1,000-point club if he returns next season. He is sixth all-time for scoring for two-year players. His .866 FT% last season is good for sixth all time in a season and fourth for seniors.