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After mid-January 2020, Perkins is a 42.3% 3P shooter. His first few games here, he struggled mightily with his shot. Ever since then, he has been extremely efficient from deep. It is crazy to watch JP play and come out with "nothing special". He was the a10 preseason POY for a reason

The fact that Perkins doesn't need Yuri to get him shots, also means Yuri can offload some of the ballhandling duties. Which means less shots from Yuri and less shots for the role players because Perkins is a better offensive option. And less turnovers. And instead of playing hot potato with reluctant teammates in the last 5 minutes, Yuri gets the ball to Perkins. Perkins averages his 17-18 ppg, Gibson gets his 14-15 ppg, Nesbitt gets his 10 ppg, Okoro gets his 10 ppg, Yuri again leads the league in assists and everyone else gets in where they fit in.

Yuri will have minimum 75-76 games remaining and it’s entirely possible he has 80. There are 4 players in NCAA history with over 1000 assists. With 75 games remaining he’ll need 7.3 to be the 5th. All of the 4 have career t/o rates of 3.2 or higher topped by the number 1 guy ( hmmm the guy with the most assists also turns the ball over the most. Who’d have thought that ) Bobby Hurley at 3.9 Those of you who think that a guy with 8+ assists a game has too many t/o’s with a 2/1 rate should probably quit posting on Billikens.com and just spend some extra time learning about the game. Does that mean he never makes a bad pass or a bad decision? Nope but in the end a 2/1 rate with his assist numbers is better than just good

As I can't do the GM spread thread because Mason plays today, I thought this would be a good time to discuss Dancing as in March Madness. Let's start with a couple of quotes from yesterday's spread thread of the Duq game.... Pre game quote........... "Bottom line...We need to move off of 50-50. A solid road win will help...Beat Duquesne and we will make a gain... Post game quote.......Some will say this was a meaningless victory... While Duq may be a PIG team....the fact that we beat them big at their place will earn us some style points...read that as ...It will help our Net efficiency in the NET Tracker. The victory did move us off 50-50 and we did make a nice gain AND the Net Efficiency did help us. Let's update the C2D chart The Bills......59%...up 9% VCU..............57%...up 3% Dav...............42%.....down 1% Day...............40%....down 4% So what is going on here?.... We made the largest gain because we womped Duq at their place (Net Efficiency)...VCU moved up slightly because they did what they were supposed to do ...win a close game...Dav and Day both slipped a bit because they should have done better playing at home against weaker teams. Takeaways...There is more to this than just looking at quadrants. Probably the most important factor in team movement in rankings is to do the unexpected...Do something unexpected good and you move up ...do something bad and you move down. We were supposed to win by 9...we won by 24....and we did it at their place. We forced 20 TOs against a team that gives up 12 ...we outscored them on pts off TOs...24-3. Those things are unexpected in a good way... That turns the computer's head....not just my computer but the Net Tracker's too. Side note...My computer model has the Net Efficiency formula built in same as the Net tracker...Why are we different? First it does rankings...I do probability ...percent chance to make the Dance. But even if I did rankings I wouldn't come up with the 61 ranking that NET does ...mine would be lower.... Why? Because the NCAA figures what the teams are doing today. In other words, let's look at the rankings today and pick the field of 68 on Jan 30...My system projects forward ...plays out all the games of all the teams till March 14 and then picks the field of 68...difference in the systems is... now vs season end. And that is also why The Net tracker looks goofy weeks ago. As the season moves toward the finish my system and the tracker start to come together. The NET is now more in sync with me than it was 2 weeks ago. Bottom line ...Do the unexpected in a good way and we will move up ...regardless of the quadrant or home or away. While a lot of different factors go into determining team rankings, the spread is a simple way to measure the unexpected.

The Bills and I have something in common. This was one of their best games this year and this was one of my best even if the spread was off...the rest of the numbers came in on target. And when the numbers come in...we win. Before we go on , I would like to address something from a previous thread. (GW spread thread...post game analysis)... Again Bolded statements are from previous posts. This first statement was from a short rant I did on 3P shooting from 2 previous games.... 3P shooting...This is a good news /bad news issue. The good news is Jimerson is shooting a phenomenal 61.9% (13-21)...unbelievable... 38.4%+ is an A+.... The bad news is the rest of the team is shooting a dismal 7.1% (2-28)...to put this in context, 29% is an F-.... small sample size but wide divergent even for small samples. Again , it made no difference in either game but could pose a problem if it carries forward into games against better teams where we don't have as much leeway..... Well again there was good news and bad news today...The bad news was Jimerson didn't make any 3s (2-8) but the good news is the rest of the team stepped up and picked up the slack...4 other players sank 3s...6-16 (37.5%) Not only did that contribute to today's win but more importantly , it shows that the team doesn't have to depend on just 1 guy (Jimerson).... Let's hope this balanced attack continues. Now let's check the rest of the numbers from today's contest.... 46/36/77...actual 44/33/71...this was pretty close...1 more 3 and 1 more FT and the the slash looks like this...46/37.5/86....very close to the target slash before and after...a side note here... we only had 7 FTAs today vs 16 for for Duq...that was because we had 18 PF vs 11 for the Dukes...Duke must have been very well behaved today or ________ (fill in the blank). Fortunately, it didn't matter. Rebs 7+...We came in with 6 extra rebs.....I was hoping we would do a little better but we did what we were supposed to do....another made target...and again it didn't matter. Let's go for our 3rd straight 8 in TOs but no more than 11 . The Dukes don't turn the ball over much, so keeping TOs down is important ....Another stat that was just 1 off...in the last 4 games we games we have averaged 10 TOs...10.6 or less is A+. Now this stat was the important one...On the surface , it seems like we did what we were suppose to do BUT the difference was The Dukes who are usually good at protecting the ball caved under the Bills pressure and turned it over 20 times. How big was this?.... Points off TOs s 24-3 in favor of The Bills...and that was pretty much the difference in the extra point spread ...and what a difference. Hold Duqs top 3 scorers to 27pts. Put pressure on them...it will not only disrupt them but wear them down with a short bench. ..They scored 29...another good stat...Our defense was great and it worked...shut down Duq. Don't let T Williams block you... We didn't...Even though he is 29th ITN...he came up with zero...Excellent Bottom line...We need to move off of 50-50. A solid road win will help...Beat Duquesne and we will make a gain....Some will say this was a meaningless victory... While Duq may be a PIG team....the fact that we beat them big at their place will earn us some style points...read that as ...It will help our Net efficiency in the NET Tracker. Takeaways...this game will help the team move toward a goal I spoke about in an earlier thread...Consistency....TOs averaging around 10 recently and rebs averaging 40-50/gm..and the numbers smoothing out ...less volatility....and overall defense on the upswing...all point to good things for the BIlls future..

I hear you, but I’ve been watching every SLU game for 20+ years and have never seen a scorer like Perkins. He is one of the best players in college basketball. We’ve done an awesome job replacing him, but Javonte is special. If he returns he will average more than 15 ppg, because he is the best scorer in this conference. If he can make good money overseas, I’m all for it. He seems like a great kid and he’s surely been a great Billiken.

Teams stopped pressing full court when 3s became a bigger part of the game. 3-4 guys who can nail and open 3 = too much risk to a press. Same goes with 1-3-1 press. Corner 3 is always there. Houston lived in that press in the Phil Slama days. Georgetown played it too. You almost never see it.

mo jeffers vs st bona all those years ago jumping over a guy named messiah if i remember correctly my favorite billiken dunk ever. my second favorite billiken dunk wasnt really that spectacular as it came out of nowhere. hughes taking it out of bounds under the billiken basket vs louisville. the louisville center turned his back completely to hughes who bounced it off the back of the louisville player stepped in bounds grabbed the ball and quickly dunked it. loved it.

Skip —— you’re like Billy Idol ….. “dancing’ with myself, Ut oh, dancing’ with myself …..”

I just reviewed the NET, where SLU received a big jump after the big road win at Duquesne. SLU's NET after completion of Saturday's play improved from 71 to 62. Right now a NET of 62 would put SLU as the 10th team below the line, in the NIT as a 3 Seed. But I think there is still some hope. Winning on the road really helps. The NET today would give the Mountain West a whopping 5 NCAA teams, which will never happen in reality absent 49 Utah State (11-9) winning the MW Tournament. The NET would actually give the WCC 4 NCAA teams. My Santa Clara fellow inlaw and I have no recollection of the WCC ever getting more than 2 NCAA teams. Three is probable at this point. I'm still a Doubting Thomas that the WCC would get 4, but it might by the lack of NCAA worthy teams elsewhere. Also the NET would give the Ohio Valley (OVC, 21st in Conference NET) 2 NCAA teams, 28 Murray State and 44 Belmont, and the OVC is a traditional One Bid League. I'll believe it when I see it if the OVC gets 2. A number of the teams ahead of SLU in the NET are not impressive. 47 Michigan has 8 losses, 48 Mississippi State has 7 losses, 49 Utah State has 9 losses. Below the cutoff line of NET 50 (San Diego State), 52 Washington State has 7 losses, 53 Virginia Tech (11-10) has 10 losses, 58 Oregon has 7 losses, and 59 Oklahoma State (10-10) has 10 losses.

Fordham vs GW: First of all, they started the game with a women’s size basketball. I have never seen that before. Yay GW and A10!!! Second, the announcers mentioned Bishop having 30 against us. I don’t know why it irks me, but that was a garbage 30 against our backups and he literally shot every time they had the ball. We weren’t going to foul him up 20 and I wouldn’t say he was unstoppable by now means.

SLU can't sleep on George Mason. Beat ranked Maryland, beat Dayton, beat Georgia. Played KU well. SLU needs to bring their "A" game. George Mason playing UMass on USA Channel today at 2pm EST.

If I was Strickland I’d have spent last offseason working on my 3, and I’d do it again this year. Hire a shooting coach and put up 1000 shots a day.

thought this myself, you beat me to it, but you are right. he will not be rehabbed by the start of g league camps and such. might as well get the great resources available at slu

When SLU is behind and has played full court on defense they have executed it well. I agree 100 percent they have the players but the coach does not do it.

I wish he could learn how to play defense so he could get more time on the floor. Cause he can really fly!

@TheOnewas also on here a few months ago saying he heard Perkins was coming back. Cusumano said he’s heard it from the coaching staff.

Okoro has now moved up to 81st ITN in FG% and is very close in 2 other categories to breaking through the Top 100...Reb...a quarter of a reb/gm and on blocks a tenth of a block /gm ...a triple 100 guy is a very good player. Linssen was in the Top 100 in FG% before he got hurt And Traore is the best shooter of the bunch at 61% ...but doesn't have enough shots to qualify for top 100.

Robert Lewis went off again tonight. I'm going to check him out. He's on an unbelievable streak and has been the best player in the area for weeks now.

So he's splitting time with Goodwin and when Goodwin leaves his TOs only go up 18%. Not bad. Again even if Yuri plays the remaining 2 years on his eligibility he won't be anywhere near to holding the TO record. He may not be in the top 50. Considering he'll have played nearly a season's worth of games more than most players in history that is actually quite good.

No, only speculated. I think all SLU fans are in agreement that we want what’s best for Javonte. If a great offer in Europe presents itself, SLU fans will be happy. If he needs another summer/fall in college to rehab and rebuild his stock, we will cheer for him as loud as we can. SLU fans are completely supportive of Javontes future, whatever that is.

Has it been announced that Perkins is coming back?

So dumb

You have your whole life to work. Stick around and play basketball while you live for free. No brainer.

If Yuri continues with his current 3.9 TO/game, he could conceivably break the all time NCAA turnover record. Please consider this (or don’t idc) in best PG discussion. Just thought it might spruce up the convo Yes obviously this is a troll post. Still not wrong though.

Yes totally agreed with you - Yuri is the Adam Dunn of SLU Point guards - not the Albert Pujols

First, I don’t agree that Yuri sucks. He’s a very good player. Second, 100% Agreed with you that one of these is true: 1. Yuri is on track to turn the ball over more than any other college basketball player ever. 2. Magic Johnson is a good player comp for Yuri Collins

Yeah, I assumed no one was actually saying Yuri=Magic haha Also, I’m on the side of Yuri being a very good if not great CBB PG. He also just may have the most turnovers in NCAA history and that isn’t inconsequential.

1. Just need to point out #1 is a dumb point. I think you’ll agree Yuri won’t be splitting time with jordan goodwin going forward haha 2. My mistake, Yuri may be 2nd all time in turnovers. But thanks for making my point on the rest of it. Yuri is good! Very good! Maybe best SLU PG ever! He also turns the ball over a ton and that can’t be dismissed! Adam Dunn is still a great baseball player.