Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, slu72 said: I would think if these boosters are really going to come up with the buyout $$’s they must have be in contact with a sure thing HC. That buyout is some serious $$’s so why risk it on a supposed hot up and comer, and he turns out to be a Brian Gregory or a Tom Crean. You’d only risk it on a sure bet proven winner, like a Majerus or a Pitino. What HC’s are out there that compare to Majerus and Pitino? I rather doubt they’re going to come up with the big $$’s it would take to lure away a currently employed big name winner. So, I’d guess they would be looking to lock up a currently unemployed winner, like a Chris Mack. I have no idea who they might be looking at, but to just can Ford and go for some hot unproven guy really makes no sense. Which is why I’m thinking all of this talk is just that at this point: talk. At the very least it puts Travis (and May) on notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Which is why I’m thinking all of this talk is just that at this point: talk. At the very least it puts Travis (and May) on notice. I agree, plus, is whoever they had lined up going to sit around forever and wait for the SLU job, or are they going to find another one? Plenty of openings right now… Slu let the dogs out? likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just saw on ESPN that the FDU HC and Iona agreed on a 5 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gister Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, slu72 said: I read an article on Few a few years back. He’s been offered by P5 schools but said money wasn’t much of a factor in staying at Zaga. He likes his life in Tacoma and is very comfortable. Money isn’t everything. That's quite a commute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, ACE said: I'm always amused this time of year how a coach can pull off one upset in the tournament and then get a new job. For the Iona's of the world trying to catch a future superstar coach on the way up seems like a not unreasonable strategy. It's certainly a gamble, but I don't think they'll scare up another Pitino anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: I doubt these supposed boosters are able to buy out Ford right now and it's probably for the best. Buying out a coach is fine and all but you also better have a pretty darn good plan in place (like a replacement lined up??) the minute that coach is terminated. That could very well be the case here but it's not the impression I'm getting. Instead of: 1A) Buyout current coach 1B) have new coach ready to sign on the dotted line It seems to be: 1) Buy out current coach 2) Look for a replacement Sounds like a few of Courtside's friends had a few scotch whiskeys and started spitballin'.... Lol, nope. This isn’t a Quinta Brunson bit where her boyfriend buys her the large popcorn at the movies. (“Some” of my, “spitballin’ and scotch whiskey” friends, aren’t random dudes.) Frank knows some (not all) of them. It’s why he made the video. Real thing. Real people. Real money. It may or may not happen. But that would be more about different groups, with different opinions, unable to come together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I think it's more likely courtside talked to some boosters who have been approached about contributing towards the buyout and/or talked to someone who has a connection to a potential replacement. This isn't a situation where people are just making something up. It may not happen if they can't get it over the finish line but you can't look at this situation and say that the wheels aren't at least turning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Light Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 If we were to decide to revamp the program with a new coach we shouldn't just jump to who is available. We want to decide on an identity and bring in a coach that can recruit, develop, and coach that identity. If we want to continue to sign local players, having a style palpable to the local basketball culture is important. I have been away from the StL prep scene for awhile so I don't know what that style is. Is it a two-way game where offense and defense are equally strong. Tatum and Carawell did well in that style with Coach K. Are local preps thriving with another style now? Either way, the next coach needs to be part of a long term vision to revamp the program. If that coach isn't available now, we wait and go forward with Ford until he is. But we don't extend Ford in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I think it's more likely courtside talked to some boosters who have been approached about contributing towards the buyout and/or talked to someone who has a connection to a potential replacement. This isn't a situation where people are just making something up. It may not happen if they can't get it over the finish line but you can't look at this situation and say that the wheels aren't at least turning Agree, but that is quite different than what Courtside said in his initial post: that, per these boosters, "Travis Ford is out as SLU's coach". Apologies, Courtside, I did not mean to imply these people (your friends) aren't real people with real money. I just doubt this process is as far long as some may think or as far along as some may be claiming. Fully expect Ford back next season but if they can pull this off and land a home run replacement then bring it! But it would be nice to end this speculation ASAP so we can get back to focusing on getting entirely too excited over 20 year old men in the transfer portal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Agree, but that is quite different than what Courtside said in his initial post: that, per these boosters, "Travis Ford is out as SLU's coach". Apologies, Courtside, I did not mean to imply these people (your friends) aren't real people with real money. I just doubt this process is as far long as some may think or as far along as some may be claiming. Fully expect Ford back next season but if they can pull this off and land a home run replacement then bring it! But it would be nice to end this speculation ASAP so we can get back to focusing on getting entirely too excited over 20 year old men in the transfer portal... 22 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Agree, but that is quite different than what Courtside said in his initial post: that, per these boosters, "Travis Ford is out as SLU's coach". Apologies, Courtside, I did not mean to imply these people (your friends) aren't real people with real money. I just doubt this process is as far long as some may think or as far along as some may be claiming. Fully expect Ford back next season but if they can pull this off and land a home run replacement then bring it! But it would be nice to end this speculation ASAP so we can get back to focusing on getting entirely too excited over 20 year old men in the transfer portal... “Travis Ford is out as SLU coach” is not an opinion. It was a statement that was somewhat believable because of the number of sources mentioned. But now we’re being told its just an opinion from one group, but there are several groups and it may or may not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, DOC said: “Travis Ford is out as SLU coach” is not an opinion. It was a statement that was somewhat believable because of the number of sources mentioned. But now we’re being told its just an opinion from one group, but there are several groups and it may or may not happen. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Perhaps email campaign can help put this over the finish line. I'll email Pesty and May when I get back to my computer. That'll for sure seal the deal. But my wild speculation is Providence opening has Mack leveraging bigger contract. Again just wild speculation. Ahearn fall back option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Perhaps email campaign can help put this over the finish line. I'll email Pesty and May when I get back to my computer. That'll for sure seal the deal. But my wild speculation is Providence opening has Mack leveraging bigger contract. Again just wild speculation. Ahearn fall back option. -Frank loves Ahearn so IF Blake is the choice presents an interesting scenario for Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -Frank loves Ahearn so IF Blake is the choice presents an interesting scenario for Frank True story. I had this same thought earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -Frank loves Ahearn so IF Blake is the choice presents an interesting scenario for Frank I don't want Blake, but I want to see this happen. Esp if its one of those weird situations where a coach is being linked but the current coach is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Perhaps email campaign can help put this over the finish line. I'll email Pesty and May when I get back to my computer. That'll for sure seal the deal. But my wild speculation is Providence opening has Mack leveraging bigger contract. Again just wild speculation. Ahearn fall back option. I’ll take Mack in a heartbeat. I’ve been asking for him since December. Proven winner and program builder at our level. Don’t know enough about Ahearn to say either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Which is why I’m thinking all of this talk is just that at this point: talk. At the very least it puts Travis (and May) on notice. I also think it will force Ford to make some changes to his staff. If nothing changes in how the program runs then it will be a wasted year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billfan7 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Perhaps email campaign can help put this over the finish line. I'll email Pesty and May when I get back to my computer. That'll for sure seal the deal. But my wild speculation is Providence opening has Mack leveraging bigger contract. Again just wild speculation. Ahearn fall back option. I don't think Mack is an option this year. "Here's the thing: When this time of year comes around and all the agents are doing all the back-channeling and putting your name out, I just decided that this cycle is not right for the timing of family. ... I am sort of a volleyball dad," Mack told Field of 68. "We are moving to Florida here in a few months. I haven't even inquired about any jobs. I have been flattered that there are several who have reached out to my agent. At this point, I am never going to say never, but not this coming year. This time of year gets your juices flowing, and I miss it. But for this coming year, it's not something that is going to be in the cards for me." https://247sports.com/Article/Ex-Louisville-basketball-head-coach-Chris-Mack-says-he-wont-return-to-coaching-in-2023-cycle--206674841/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Billfan7 said: I don't think Mack is an option this year. "Here's the thing: When this time of year comes around and all the agents are doing all the back-channeling and putting your name out, I just decided that this cycle is not right for the timing of family. ... I am sort of a volleyball dad," Mack told Field of 68. "We are moving to Florida here in a few months. I haven't even inquired about any jobs. I have been flattered that there are several who have reached out to my agent. At this point, I am never going to say never, but not this coming year. This time of year gets your juices flowing, and I miss it. But for this coming year, it's not something that is going to be in the cards for me." https://247sports.com/Article/Ex-Louisville-basketball-head-coach-Chris-Mack-says-he-wont-return-to-coaching-in-2023-cycle--206674841/ Coachspeak. Bet he’d coach in the right situation for the right $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: Coachspeak. Bet he’d coach in the right situation for the right $. 10000000%. Blossom did the same thing - but hs level. Wanted to be a VB dad and quickly got back in. ( joking about to comp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, gister said: That's quite a commute Ok Spokan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I don’t think SLU needs a retread. Cream, Mack, Turgeon,.M. Anderson etc. etc. have had their chance. Often they struggle with one or more of the coaching ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, Marlow said: I don’t think SLU needs a retread. Cream, Mack, Turgeon,.M. Anderson etc. etc. have had their chance. Often they struggle with one or more of the coaching ingredients. Normally I’d agree, but Mack isn’t your usual retread. Made tourney 8 of 9 years at X. Fired at Louisville for recording an assistant coach, not for lack of results. I think he’d be very successful here. TheA_Bomb and MusicCityBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, gobillsgo said: Normally I’d agree, but Mack isn’t your usual retread. Made tourney 8 of 9 years at X. Fired at Louisville for recording an assistant coach, not for lack of results. I think he’d be very successful here. Mack would be a home run hire. No doot aboot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 English to Providence, interesting choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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