Brighton Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 will call Lindenwood football games in the fall. https://lindenwoodlions.com/news/2022/9/8/football-ramsey-returns-home-to-lead-broadcast-team.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Lindenwood’s football team was given all of a few months to prepare for the transition from D2 football to D1? Ouch. Hard to imagine this is going to be fun for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Lindenwood is a D1 FB school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, slu72 said: Lindenwood is a D1 FB school? D1 (FCS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, slu72 said: Lindenwood is a D1 FB school? They have moved all their programs to D-1. This is the first transition year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 They are now a member of the Ohio Valley Conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 What happens when Lindenwood is playing at the same time as the Billikens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 That’s an interesting question. We might find out Nov 12th, Lindenwood takes on McKendree in St Charles at 1pm on Nov 12th, and SLU plays Evansville on Nov 12th at time TBA. If it’s a 7pm start time for the Billikens, I guess Rammer speeds down I-70 to Chaifetz after the FB game (hope he doesn’t get a ticket). If it gets scheduled as an afternoon game, then I guess a decision needs to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 It'll be quite the challenge for Rammer if they get an automatic bid to the FCS playoffs after their transition period ends. And Bauman, he'll be doing PBP on ESPN+. Nice snark. You sound like a Mizzou fan when they talk about SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, thetorch said: What happens when Lindenwood is playing at the same time as the Billikens? I would expect him to do the Billikens' games since the radio listeners for LU football will probably top out at 100, all of whom will be family members of players. It's a sign of how important this job is for Rammer since the big LU announcement doesn't even mention what station will be airing the games. Let's see: football game for 100 fans on a Mom & Pop radio station vs Bills on KMOX. Humm that's a tough one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 This is a perfect example of why it's good to have another DI program in town. More resources, more expertise, more opportunities for home grown players, coaches, broadcasters, etc... CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 What I can’t figure out is how can Lindenwood afford an FCS FB program and we can’t. I’m sure our endowment dwarf’s theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, slu72 said: What I can’t figure out is how can Lindenwood afford an FCS FB program and we can’t. I’m sure our endowment dwarf’s theirs. They have had a football (D2) level program for years so the cost of moving up to D1 is not nearly as great as moving into the OVC group of regional teams. Starting a program from scratch fighting for top recruits with MO and ILL is a different story. And btw, Lindenwoods financials are much larger than you would guess them to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, thetorch said: What happens when Lindenwood is playing at the same time as the Billikens? if i tune in that night & hear "Bob Ramsey is on assignment elsewhere" i'll breakdown. rgbilliken and SLUMedBilliken15 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, bauman said: They have had a football (D2) level program for years so the cost of moving up to D1 is not nearly as great as moving into the OVC group of regional teams. Starting a program from scratch fighting for top recruits with MO and ILL is a different story. And btw, Lindenwoods financials are much larger than you would guess them to be. Per google $164 mm. That’s not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, bauman said: They have had a football (D2) level program for years so the cost of moving up to D1 is not nearly as great as moving into the OVC group of regional teams. Starting a program from scratch fighting for top recruits with MO and ILL is a different story. And btw, Lindenwoods financials are much larger than you would guess them to be. I agree with most of your post except the financial reference. SLU’s endowment is almost $1.5 BILLION more than Lindenwood’s endowment. Of course, endowment isn’t everything, so enlighten us regarding Lindenwood’s “financials”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 8 hours ago, BilliesBy40 said: I agree with most of your post except the financial reference. SLU’s endowment is almost $1.5 BILLION more than Lindenwood’s endowment. Of course, endowment isn’t everything, so enlighten us regarding Lindenwood’s “financials”. I am not an expert on this but as I understand it Lindenwood has made great amounts of money off of granting small schollies for every sport or quasi sport you can imagine and getting kids to come because of that thus paying up for the difference. They also have a lot of adjuncts as opposed to full time professors as well as requiring their teachers to recruit students for their classes especially in the graduate program areas. I know of a few adjuncts there who have told me some of this. Also, endowments usually have restrictions for what they can be spent for and often only allow for the income they produce to be spent - makes sense to me if you want to ensure that your large gift keeps giving for what you intended. Finally, they have a very aggressive cost savings approach that should be lauded but the profit is not necessarily put back in the school to keep costs down but to pay the people at the top. I am open to being educated if anything I said is substantially wrong. ARon likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Someone has to replace Florida International as the worst football program in D1. They've held the title long enough. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, cheeseman said: I am not an expert on this but as I understand it Lindenwood has made great amounts of money off of granting small schollies for every sport or quasi sport you can imagine and getting kids to come because of that thus paying up for the difference. They also have a lot of adjuncts as opposed to full time professors as well as requiring their teachers to recruit students for their classes especially in the graduate program areas. I know of a few adjuncts there who have told me some of this. Also, endowments usually have restrictions for what they can be spent for and often only allow for the income they produce to be spent - makes sense to me if you want to ensure that your large gift keeps giving for what you intended. Finally, they have a very aggressive cost savings approach that should be lauded but the profit is not necessarily put back in the school to keep costs down but to pay the people at the top. I am open to being educated if anything I said is substantially wrong. Nothing you have said contradicts what I have heard, it has been a good formula for building a university, remember Lindenwood had fewer than 1000 students in the late 80’s. Look where they are now. I do wonder how well their sports game plan will translate to D1, where football players and basketball players expect full scholarships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Someone has to replace Florida International as the worst football program in D1. They've held the title long enough. While i dislike Lindenwood is never last for long in anything sports related. They will be at the top of their conference quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Bob will be in midseason form come the UMSL game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 He can’t miss any Billikens games if for no other reason than “Billiken” Bob sounds so much better than “Lion” Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, thetorch said: While i dislike Lindenwood is never last for long in anything sports related. They will be at the top of their conference quickly. Didn't know this .... Lindenwood University is a private university in St. Charles, Missouri. Founded in 1827 by George Champlin Sibley and Mary Easton Sibley as The Lindenwood School for Girls, it is the second-oldest higher-education institution west of the Mississippi River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, cheeseman said: I am not an expert on this but as I understand it Lindenwood has made great amounts of money off of granting small schollies for every sport or quasi sport you can imagine and getting kids to come because of that thus paying up for the difference. They also have a lot of adjuncts as opposed to full time professors as well as requiring their teachers to recruit students for their classes especially in the graduate program areas. I know of a few adjuncts there who have told me some of this. Also, endowments usually have restrictions for what they can be spent for and often only allow for the income they produce to be spent - makes sense to me if you want to ensure that your large gift keeps giving for what you intended. Finally, they have a very aggressive cost savings approach that should be lauded but the profit is not necessarily put back in the school to keep costs down but to pay the people at the top. I am open to being educated if anything I said is substantially wrong. my son was recruited by lindenwood and at that time they probably had near 30 on some kind of scholly for basketball naia at the time, sports played a big role in saving lindenwood from bankruptcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, cheeseman said: I am not an expert on this but as I understand it Lindenwood has made great amounts of money off of granting small schollies for every sport or quasi sport you can imagine and getting kids to come because of that thus paying up for the difference. That's many NAIA schools in a nutshell (non-D1 college athletics as a whole). Not necessarily Lindenwood specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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