billiken_roy Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -again, my thought is that it is best for US for Cuonzo to have moderate success in CoMo and keep his job as long as he doesnt poach billiken players. i agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: i was at an event last night where the "bragging rights" game was playing on the TV's. what little i saw, was an embarrassment for anyone that calls themselves tiger fans. wow, what a mess. another example why we all should be so thankful for Coach Ford. with whatever weaknesses he might have, it sure is still a hell of a lot better than that trainwreck going on in Boone County. "The Poacher" has got the be the worst D-1 coach in all the land to put a product out like that is inexcuseable. i ALMOST feel sorry for them. but mostly i just laughed. glad we got ford. Quite a low bar here. Objectively, I wouldn’t take any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: as long as he doesnt poach billiken players. i agree. Billiken Players are smarter than that. Who on our roster would want to go to that dumpster fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I ran into a friend of mine who is a Missouri High School State Hall of Fame Basketball Coach so I do think his opinion has legitimacy. He brought up the Auburn game which he watched on TV. I asked him why did he think Ford slowed the play down when he did with a 13 point lead. His response was that apparently Ford saw something that led him to believe a change was needed. I then pointed out that Ford did the same thing against Belmont and UAB. He told me that sometimes a coach makes the same mistake because they believe what they did was right and are reluctant to change. When I told him I thought the approach probably cost us an at-large bid he did not disagree. He then went on and pointed out that the loss of Perkins was tough and he thought because of it Ford had accomplished so far about what he would have expected. I told him that I thought there was enough talent on the team to compensate somewhat for the loss of Perkins if the players could find where they fit in with Perkins being lost. He said that could be because from what he saw the team could have won all three of those games. He then told me that when evaluating a college coach you have to look at the big picture. He believes that Ford is a good recruiter - over the years he had players go to play for Self, Williams, Stewart, AZ to name a few so he has seen good recruiters. He believes Ford is a good recruiter and a satisfactory game coach. He also said for SLU Ford is a good choice because he probably is not looking a P5 job - been there done that - and is one who is willing to be committed to SLU. Honestly, I think it is a decent evaluation of Ford. He also said that he would always take a good recruiter who is a satisfactory game coach over a good game coach but a weak recruiter in the long run. My take away was that while it is frustrating to lose games like Auburn the real prize is winning the A10 and he did not think that was a stretch from what he saw. So, I guess all is not lost yet. SLURadioBoy, Billiken Rich, RiseOfTheBillikens and 6 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Legend Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, cheeseman said: I ran into a friend of mine who is a Missouri High School State Hall of Fame Basketball Coach so I do think his opinion has legitimacy. He brought up the Auburn game which he watched on TV. I asked him why did he think Ford slowed the play down when he did with a 13 point lead. His response was that apparently Ford saw something that led him to believe a change was needed. I then pointed out that Ford did the same thing against Belmont and UAB. He told me that sometimes a coach makes the same mistake because they believe what they did was right and are reluctant to change. When I told him I thought the approach probably cost us an at-large bid he did not disagree. He then went on and pointed out that the loss of Perkins was tough and he thought because of it Ford had accomplished so far about what he would have expected. I told him that I thought there was enough talent on the team to compensate somewhat for the loss of Perkins if the players could find where they fit in with Perkins being lost. He said that could be because from what he saw the team could have won all three of those games. He then told me that when evaluating a college coach you have to look at the big picture. He believes that Ford is a good recruiter - over the years he had players go to play for Self, Williams, Stewart, AZ to name a few so he has seen good recruiters. He believes Ford is a good recruiter and a satisfactory game coach. He also said for SLU Ford is a good choice because he probably is not looking a P5 job - been there done that - and is one who is willing to be committed to SLU. Honestly, I think it is a decent evaluation of Ford. He also said that he would always take a good recruiter who is a satisfactory game coach over a good game coach but a weak recruiter in the long run. My take away was that while it is frustrating to lose games like Auburn the real prize is winning the A10 and he did not think that was a stretch from what he saw. So, I guess all is not lost yet. Awesome analysis. Case in point- Brad Soderberg is a national champion assistant coach. Do we want him back as head coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Band Legend said: Awesome analysis. Case in point- Brad Soderberg is a national champion assistant coach. Do we want him back as head coach? Could he be our defensive coordinator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 hours ago, billiken_roy said: i was at an event last night where the "bragging rights" game was playing on the TV's. what little i saw, was an embarrassment for anyone that calls themselves tiger fans. wow, what a mess. another example why we all should be so thankful for Coach Ford. with whatever weaknesses he might have, it sure is still a hell of a lot better than that trainwreck going on in Boone County. "The Poacher" has got the be the worst D-1 coach in all the land to put a product out like that is inexcuseable. i ALMOST feel sorry for them. but mostly i just laughed. glad we got ford. If you can find the bold, you can find the blue font.....I fixed it for you.... billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Ford coached one of his best games of the season today. He finally handled the subs correctly. Traore was impressive and hopefully this buys him more minutes. Honestly its better to be in a tight game so he doesn't try to run the clock out. Okoro also had has best game of the season. Perhaps travis finally lit a fire under him gabriel likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonner89 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 Bump Glad he saved his timeouts during that onslaught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 6:54 PM, Bonner89 said: Bump Glad he saved his timeouts during that onslaught. Nm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Bump. Sure looked like a great coach tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 He just isn’t. Enthusiastic, good recruiter, but can’t coach a damn lick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, billikenbill said: He just isn’t. Enthusiastic, good recruiter, but can’t coach a damn lick. What is the evidence that he is a good recruiter? Just hard to argue we have more talent than any of the other top6 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: What is the evidence that he is a good recruiter? Just hard to argue we have more talent than any of the other top6 teams. He is a better recruiter than anyone at SLU ever. Outside of maybe Alex Jensen with Rick. But he isn't much else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: What is the evidence that he is a good recruiter? Just hard to argue we have more talent than any of the other top6 teams. Recruiting rankings. the other coaches just coach better. SLU has had 4 top 75 players on the roster the last two years BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 He spends the game being distracted by the officials and players play like his attention is elsewhere. SLU’s offense was rudderless in the 2nd half. It never righted itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Holly Hills Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 In regards to our team’s offensive execution, I’m all for it… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 9 hours ago, mrjoelabs said: He is a better recruiter than anyone at SLU ever. Outside of maybe Alex Jensen with Rick. But he isn't much else 8 hours ago, wgstl said: Recruiting rankings. the other coaches just coach better. SLU has had 4 top 75 players on the roster the last two years Neither of those responses are proof he’s a good recruiter. Getting good rated recruits doesn’t matter if they turn out to be overrated all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: Neither of those responses are proof he’s a good recruiter. Getting good rated recruits doesn’t matter if they turn out to be overrated all the time. This is why a coach is rated on 2 things, recruiting and coaching. What you’re getting it is the coaching , not Recruiting. But I pointed out is 100% recruiting JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, wgstl said: This is why a coach is rated on 2 things, recruiting and coaching. What you’re getting it is the coaching , not Recruiting. But I pointed out is 100% recruiting I get what you’re sayin…but i’m saying the players he’s recruiting really aren’t as good as we are saying they are. There’s as much if not more talent on many other A10 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Stop bumping this thread up every time we lose. We get it. Shooting 15% from 3 with JNezz missing 2 open looks to win the game is not on the coach. Make some shots. Billikenbooster, RiseOfTheBillikens and slufanskip like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, Scoop said: Stop bumping this thread up every time we lose. We get it. Shooting 15% from 3 with JNezz missing 2 open looks to win the game is not on the coach. Make some shots. Maybe if Ford developed his bench and played other players throughout the games the increased rest would allow our wings to have their legs and increase their shooting percentages. That's on Ford. BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I would like to see a couple more guys get some minutes but you are reaching on this one. These kids are in shape and are still very capable of knocking down shots at the end of the game. 15% is for the whole game start to finish and is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scoop said: I would like to see a couple more guys get some minutes but you are reaching on this one. These kids are in shape and are still very capable of knocking down shots at the end of the game. 15% is for the whole game start to finish and is terrible. We have 7 guys above 33% on the season from 3. While maybe we shot poorly this game, 3pt shooting % is not the reason we have struggled down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I agree just saying it didn’t help this game. Knock down a couple and it’s a W. This team needs to get tough. Jordan Goodwin tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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