Jump to content

GDT: vs Illinois State (Cancun Challenge)


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 320
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Loved Taj's comments about the refs.

Not a nice game, we should have done better but did not. However a win is a win regardless. We went 5 pts below the Vegas line but we won. Two points can be made, they hustled better than we did, and we still have trouble with zone defenses.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Schasz said:

A win is a win I suppose. It sure was butt ugly. Thought I heard an announcer say IL State was picked to finish last in the Valley. 

Correct, but they have too many scorers to finish at the bottom of the Valley. They will fight for a top 4 spot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Three ways to beat a zone - hit from the perimeter, attack the basket, or play better defense and rebound offensively.  We usually find ourselves running a weave or standing around dribbling 30 feet or more away.  Neither will beat a zone.  Ford just doesn't seem to know how to coach the players to play against a zone and I am not sure why.  Surely somebody on the staff knows - it ain't rocket science.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

Why did Ford remove Nesbitt at crunch time? Please don’t say “defense.” Nesbitt won the game for us in the second half. An ISU friend was impressed with Nesbitt. 

I thought it was strange too, but he ended up playing a lot defensively over the last few minutes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

Why did Ford remove Nesbitt at crunch time? Please don’t say “defense.” Nesbitt won the game for us in the second half. An ISU friend was impressed with Nesbitt. 

He wanted Thatch in for whatever the reason - maybe a calming hand but not sure that is what he got.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:

Why did Ford remove Nesbitt at crunch time? Please don’t say “defense.” Nesbitt won the game for us in the second half. An ISU friend was impressed with Nesbitt. 

I was thinking it was FT shooting team. 
 

as for silver linings, Nesbit producing after disappearing the last two games hitting threes in the second half.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, cheeseman said:

Three ways to beat a zone - hit from the perimeter, attack the basket, or play better defense and rebound offensively.  We usually find ourselves running a weave or standing around dribbling 30 feet or more away.  Neither will beat a zone.  Ford just doesn't seem to know how to coach the players to play against a zone and I am not sure why.  Surely somebody on the staff knows - it ain't rocket science.

Based on his personnel choices, Coach Ford thinks he can beat the zone by playing two point guards -- Yuri and Jones -- but I think he'll eventually give that up.  Jones doesn't turn the ball over but he isn't good enough at attacking off the dribble to help us there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

43 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said:

The Travis Ford tax was deferred. But we all know it’s lurking somewhere, probably in the Duquesne or Dayton game

That  would make Ford the same as every other coach in the country. 99 of 100 coaches lose a game their fans think they should have won every year. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hargrove and Collins combined for 14 turnovers. That’s 3.2 more than we’d averaged as a team so far. Feel like a reminder to play within themselves is in need. Thank god Nesbitt stepped up to make big shots, and Jimerson to ice it. We just played about as poorly as we can and came away with a win against a decent team. Not pleased but I’ll take it. Let’s clean up our act and trounce SFA. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

Based on his personnel choices, Coach Ford thinks he can beat the zone by playing two point guards -- Yuri and Jones -- but I think he'll eventually give that up.  Jones doesn't turn the ball over but he isn't good enough at attacking off the dribble to help us there.

Yuri refuses to shoot 3s and Jones is so little that he needs a lot of space just to get his shot off… not a great combo against zone.  And has jimerson ever attempted a 3 where his toe wasn’t right on the line?  Can’t remember seeing him hit a deep 3, ever. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just remember to have perspective.  We were supposed to win.  We one.  Think about this, Dayton has lost their last three games to UMass-Lowell, Lipscomb, and Austin Peay.  We are 5-1 with our only loss being to a top 10 team.  Don't worry.  Be happy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said:

Just remember to have perspective.  We were supposed to win.  We one.  Think about this, Dayton has lost their last three games to UMass-Lowell, Lipscomb, and Austin Peay.  We are 5-1 with our only loss being to a top 10 team.  Don't worry.  Be happy.

Perspective is important here. 

Some of Yuri's turnovers were equal parts blame if not more on behalf of the teammate he was passing to. One of them was a bad no-call body foul. Some of them were the result of him having to carry his own weight and that of four others to beat a tough zone defense that we struggled with. He still had a 1:1 A/T ratio and stacked a number of other respectable stats on top of that. 

The final margin of 6 points is hardly accurate, as we didn't play to stretch the lead in the final minutes rather to hold on to it and slow the game down. It didn't feel like a single digit game in the last 2 minutes. 

Traveling to Mexico and playing in a hotel has to be difficult for the guys, lets see how they come out looking tonight. We won the game and it taught some good lessons - relax. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

Attendance for last night's game was 103.  A scalpers nightmare.

Was thinking that could have effected our play - particularly on some of the mental lapses/turn-overs. Not that it's an excuse, but playing basketball in a hotel ballroom in Mexico with a 103 spectators is really strange. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Compton said:

Was thinking that could have effected our play - particularly on some of the mental lapses/turn-overs. Not that it's an excuse, but playing basketball in a hotel ballroom in Mexico with a 103 spectators is really strange. 

Any more strange than an empty 10,600 seat arena? That ballroom is also pretty much just Rose Hill Gym without the character.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

Any more strange than an empty 10,600 seat arena? 

Yes. An empty hotel ballroom in Mexico is significantly more strange than playing where they shoot and practice almost every day, even if it's empty. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Compton said:

Was thinking that could have effected our play - particularly on some of the mental lapses/turn-overs. Not that it's an excuse, but playing basketball in a hotel ballroom in Mexico with a 103 spectators is really strange. 

Playing basketball in a hotel ballroom in Mexico with 103 spectators AFTER consuming countless numbers of Mexican Ice Cubes….it’s a miracle they made it off the court!! This win keeps looking better and better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Compton said:

Yes. An empty hotel ballroom in Mexico is significantly more strange than playing where they shoot and practice almost every day, even if it's empty. 

Shooting stats were pretty good for both teams. Background couldn't be too bad. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


×
×
  • Create New...