billikenfan05 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, JMM28 said: Remember when we were saying that about Mike Crawford? Is this an indictment on Mike Crawford? I would love to have Mike Crawford on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Remember when we were saying that about Mike Crawford? Don't recall anyone chatting up MC as one of the 5 best shooters in the country. Was final five Indiana Player of the year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Remember when we were saying that about Mike Crawford? I honestly don't. I remember being cautiously optimistic about him as a player when we were recruiting him and after he signed, but I don't remember him getting a lot of attention before or after we signed him. GJ, meanwhile, has really been opening eyes so far this season. Part of this is simply due to exposure. Things have changed in the past several years, and the main factor is that GJ plays for a national traveling team whereas Crawford was playing in rural Indiana. I agree with the last few posters. He would've been really nice as a 7th or 8th guy. The problem was he was stuck on a roster without much talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, almaman said: Don't recall anyone chatting up MC as one of the 5 best shooters in the country. Was final five Indiana Player of the year though. sometimes players who come from small schools scare me. their stats can be so misleading. Luckily Jimersons numbers come against good to great comp. nvm, pistol beat me. What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Pistol said: I honestly don't. I remember being cautiously optimistic about him as a player when we were recruiting him and after he signed, but I don't remember him getting a lot of attention before or after we signed him. GJ, meanwhile, has really been opening eyes so far this season. Part of this is simply due to exposure. Things have changed in the past several years, and the main factor is that GJ plays for a national traveling team whereas Crawford was playing in rural Indiana. I agree with the last few posters. He would've been really nice as a 7th or 8th guy. The problem was he was stuck on a roster without much talent. People got pumped because Crawford was a finalist for Indiana player of the year. Billiken Roy was right all along about the caliber of the Crews recruits. Speaking of those recruits: https://newsok.com/article/5615434/ou-basketball-miles-reynolds-sparks-second-half-rally-as-sooners-stay-undefeated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Bartley led SIU last game. avg 11.5 in 4 games with slash of 60/62/75. 13-21 from 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010andBeyond Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, JMM28 said: Remember when we were saying that about Mike Crawford? No NextYearBill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 23 hours ago, billiken_roy said: im not sure hargrove has much help on his flyers team this year. i.e. he will definitely have a target on his back each and every game. Double-double last night for Hargrove: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sj-r.com/sports/20181120/east-st-louis-chicago-curie-win-on-opening-day-of-abes-roundball-classic%3ftemplate=ampart Slu let the dogs out? and Pistol like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: Double-double last night for Hargrove: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sj-r.com/sports/20181120/east-st-louis-chicago-curie-win-on-opening-day-of-abes-roundball-classic%3ftemplate=ampart Nice win for the Flyers. Orr is a two time defending 2A state champ in IL. They beat Vashon last season by 10. They have lost their whole starting line-up from last season, but they are sill a very good basketball program. Orr has three seniors who are future D1 players. Pistol likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, almaman said: Bartley led SIU last game. avg 11.5 in 4 games with slash of 60/62/75. 13-21 from 3. These posts should probably be moved to a different thread Along with the small sample problems, that line for Bartley is pretty misleading. He's shot 21 3s (13-21) and only 4 2s (2-4). He's basically torched some awful teams from 3pt range (combined 11-15 against Howard and Arkansas Pine Bluff) and been average against good teams (2-6 combined against Buffalo and Kentucky). That being said, he'd be a pretty good fit on our team as a 3pt sniper with our dearth of shooting. He'd basically be in the Wiley role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: These posts should probably be moved to a different thread Along with the small sample problems, that line for Bartley is pretty misleading. He's shot 21 3s (13-21) and only 4 2s (2-4). He's basically torched some awful teams from 3pt range (combined 11-15 against Howard and Arkansas Pine Bluff) and been average against good teams (2-6 combined against Buffalo and Kentucky). That being said, he'd be a pretty good fit on our team as a 3pt sniper with our dearth of shooting. He'd basically be in the Wiley role. Steph Bartley wasn't much last season and would have graduated now if he stayed at SLU. The kid that SLU could actually use right now is Jordan Barnes, who Crews ignored. RUBillsFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: These posts should probably be moved to a different thread Along with the small sample problems, that line for Bartley is pretty misleading. He's shot 21 3s (13-21) and only 4 2s (2-4). He's basically torched some awful teams from 3pt range (combined 11-15 against Howard and Arkansas Pine Bluff) and been average against good teams (2-6 combined against Buffalo and Kentucky). That being said, he'd be a pretty good fit on our team as a 3pt sniper with our dearth of shooting. He'd basically be in the Wiley role. Bartley also has an SIU team high 17 assists with only 8 turn overs. He is one of their primary ball handlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said: Double-double last night for Hargrove: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sj-r.com/sports/20181120/east-st-louis-chicago-curie-win-on-opening-day-of-abes-roundball-classic%3ftemplate=ampart -good game Terrence, keep it going, I think folks might want to see this from the article..... Terrence Hargrove Jr., a 6-foot-6 senior forward at East St. Louis High School, scored 20 points and had 10 rebounds to lead the Flyers past Chicago Orr 68-65 in the second game of the Abe’s Roundball Classic at Lincoln Land Community College’s Cass Gymnasium on Tuesday. In the first game, Chicago Curie beat St. Louis Cardinal Ritter 56-34. Hargrove has signed to play at Saint Louis University. The Abe’s Roundball Classic is the successor to the former Adam Lopez Thanksgiving Tournament that was held at Lanphier High School’s Lober-Nika Gymnasium since 2015. Lopez, the Springfield School Board vice president, was indicted Nov. 7 on charges of theft and financial exploitation of the elderly. Hargrove, who led East St. Louis in scoring in 2017-18 with 18.2 points per game, was 6-for-10 from the field and hit eight of 12 free throws. He also averaged 9.5 rebounds a season ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -good game Terrence, keep it going, I think folks might want to see this from the article..... Terrence Hargrove Jr., a 6-foot-6 senior forward at East St. Louis High School, scored 20 points and had 10 rebounds to lead the Flyers past Chicago Orr 68-65 in the second game of the Abe’s Roundball Classic at Lincoln Land Community College’s Cass Gymnasium on Tuesday. In the first game, Chicago Curie beat St. Louis Cardinal Ritter 56-34. Hargrove has signed to play at Saint Louis University. The Abe’s Roundball Classic is the successor to the former Adam Lopez Thanksgiving Tournament that was held at Lanphier High School’s Lober-Nika Gymnasium since 2015. Lopez, the Springfield School Board vice president, was indicted Nov. 7 on charges of theft and financial exploitation of the elderly. Hargrove, who led East St. Louis in scoring in 2017-18 with 18.2 points per game, was 6-for-10 from the field and hit eight of 12 free throws. He also averaged 9.5 rebounds a season ago. was lopez guarding hargrove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 19 hours ago, JMM28 said: Remember when we were saying that about Mike Crawford? I don't remember anybody saying that about Crawford. In fact, I think we all assumed he was sort of a throw-in given the transition from Majerus to Crews. Actually ended up being a better player than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, SShoe said: I don't remember anybody saying that about Crawford. In fact, I think we all assumed he was sort of a throw-in given the transition from Majerus to Crews. Actually ended up being a better player than I expected. I can't recall anyone getting to excited about Crawford. He was a finalist in the Mr. Indiana thing, but that was about it. Can't recall him having a lot of top tier offers. That said, he was a very serviceable player that would have been a solid 6 to 7 in past rotations. He was an upgrade over Jake Barnett and probably should have logged more minutes than he got that first year. A solid Billiken much like a Luke Meyer type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said: Double-double last night for Hargrove: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sj-r.com/sports/20181120/east-st-louis-chicago-curie-win-on-opening-day-of-abes-roundball-classic%3ftemplate=ampart 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Nice win for the Flyers. Orr is a two time defending 2A state champ in IL. They beat Vashon last season by 10. They have lost their whole starting line-up from last season, but they are sill a very good basketball program. Orr has three seniors who are future D1 players. Great start for Hargrove and ESL. He was right around his averages for last season. With him being such a focal point for opposing defenses, I'd imagine averaging 20 and 10 this season would be a nice accomplishment. Here are some highlights. If you want to skip to the TH stuff, he's at 0:20, 1:20, 1:25, and 2:02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 If we can land Jitoboh, this would definitely be a top 25 recruiting class. A nifty PG with great distribution ability, a lights out sniper, a pure athlete SF with outside shooting ability, and a huge post presence. I believe these guys would all be seniors by the time the Legend Jr sets foot in the Fetz.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 33 points for T Hargrove in an OT loss last night to Chicago Curie, a projected top 10 team in the state. TH fouled out in OT. Spoon-Balls and HenryB like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said: 33 points for T Hargrove in an OT loss last night to Chicago Curie, a projected top 10 team in the state. TH fouled out in OT. VeniceMenace and Pistol like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 That’s the Billiken Junkyard Dawg in the lower left corner of the dunk replays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Hargrove is going to be a fan favorite at the Fetz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Love his hustle to get back on D! cgeldmacher and slufanskip like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, slu72 said: Love his hustle to get back on D! I agree—that was the first thing I noticed on the video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Hargrove also went 4-6 from 3. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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