Clock_Tower Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, moytoy12 said: I'm not impressed w/Rosenblum. Criminal defense attorneys like Rosenblum (and he is good at what he does) are excellent at poking holes in the prosecution's case, selecting a jury and in creating doubt in the minds of jurors selected - completely different skill set than here. Now, what would be effective is for someone/several to privately discuss with the 3 players and/or their representatives/legal counsel/parents and let this Board what type of pressure to apply, when to apply and to whom to apply. Well-intentioned but misguided pressure can make things worse. HoosierBilliken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Littlebill said: Are you a student or a fan? Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The post could finally be investigating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LindellWest Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 Heckled Fred in the Parking lot. Did my part. Spoon-Balls, RiseAndGrind, JohnnyJumpUp and 9 others like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Pestello is so clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Students with a sign. Small but still something. TheOne likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: Students with a sign. Small but still something. That gentleman earned himself a beer tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: Students with a sign. Small but still something. 17 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: That gentleman earned himself a beer tonight. He’s the best Mario Strikers player I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Westy03 said: The post could finally be investigating Someone needs to interview Kratky about her #GoldStandard process. This is an old article but I'm thinking S2 is going to drag on for a year just like it did with this guy: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/slu-case-highlights-the-gray-areas-of-campus-sex-assault/article_160c1a40-03c7-5db7-bb9d-ab23b1ca858e.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Request to @SluSignGuy: could you — at least temporarily — add Jost's tweets to the feed on the front page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Request to @SluSignGuy: could you — at least temporarily — add Jost's tweets to the feed on the front page? I don't want to see Jost tweet back and forth about cookies with Pestello on this site Box and Won, Slu let the dogs out?, brianstl and 1 other like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now saw this tweet and the responses, you guys on twitter are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 -I went to slu.edu and the message on the home page caught my attention, it is "We ignite a desire to learn and to serve, to blaze trails in thought and action." - how is a stall tactic serving the parties in the investigation? how is a stall blazing a trail of thought or action? what an injustice, what a lie, what a horrible way the U is acting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 So is the S2 case close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, billikens747 said: So is the S2 case close? Those are cases where the Feds have opened an investigation into an institution's handling of Title IX issues or investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, brianstl said: Those are cases where the Feds have opened an investigation into an institution's handling of Title IX issues or investigations. Yes. SLU is overcompensating to make sure they don't get added to the list. However, "two wrongs don't make a right" is what they should remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, brianstl said: Those are cases where the Feds have opened an investigation into an institution's handling of Title IX issues or investigations. Gotcha, I misinterpreted the tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffinMH Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 10:39 PM, HenryB said: Get off your high horse. What have we swept under the rug in the past? On the contrary there does seem to be a lot to suggest that the administration has ignored evidence that exonerates the players to achieve a predetermined outcome. The legal exposure the university has is self-inflicted and, frankly, is well deserved. High Horse? I figure you are joking. The very first post of this thread says the "Saint Louis Police Department informed".... whatever it was. The original claim spoke of sexual assault and everything grew out of that. SLU cannot/will not/ would be foolish too... ignore that simple fact. That is why this has played out the way it has. I really do hope these guys play for SLU in the future (whether near future or next season). However, the way things seem to be right now, with everything being drawn out, I don't think that will happen. Believe me, I would be happy to be wrong on this!!! I am sure deep down they are good kids who made bad decisions. I am also sure SLU doesn't want to be looked upon by the community as trying to overlook questionable things going on on there own property. I don't know how many female students read this board discussion. but the ones I know who are aware of the allegations or are alum think a sexual assault went down that night. In today's world, sexual assault allegations are a point of high focus. When I read all the recent news over the last year, I conclude women are simply not going to let this kind of thing go.. That is the difference between now and say 20 - 40 years ago. This, above all other things, is why this whole mess has unfolded like it has. Is it justice? Is it UNfair to the accused? Maybe not... at least you can make an argument that it isn't. However this is the lay of land in this era. These high-profile student athletes have to know they are held to a higher standard and when something questionable happens, they basically have a target hanging around their necks. They have to decide if it is worth a scholarship education. Like I said, I hope this is resolved soon so the boys can put this behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenBoy10 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 If an assault did occur, kick the boys out. The injustice is how long it is taking them to determine that. (especially with no criminal case against them.) Either way, all parties involved should have a decision by now. kappy96 likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, JeffinMH said: High Horse? I figure you are joking. The very first post of this thread says the "Saint Louis Police Department informed".... whatever it was. The original claim spoke of sexual assault and everything grew out of that. SLU cannot/will not/ would be foolish too... ignore that simple fact. That is why this has played out the way it has. I really do hope these guys play for SLU in the future (whether near future or next season). However, the way things seem to be right now, with everything being drawn out, I don't think that will happen. Believe me, I would be happy to be wrong on this!!! I am sure deep down they are good kids who made bad decisions. I am also sure SLU doesn't want to be looked upon by the community as trying to overlook questionable things going on on there own property. I don't know how many female students read this board discussion. but the ones I know who are aware of the allegations or are alum think a sexual assault went down that night. In today's world, sexual assault allegations are a point of high focus. When I read all the recent news over the last year, I conclude women are simply not going to let this kind of thing go.. That is the difference between now and say 20 - 40 years ago. This, above all other things, is why this whole mess has unfolded like it has. Is it justice? Is it UNfair to the accused? Maybe not... at least you can make an argument that it isn't. However this is the lay of land in this era. These high-profile student athletes have to know they are held to a higher standard and when something questionable happens, they basically have a target hanging around their necks. They have to decide if it is worth a scholarship education. Like I said, I hope this is resolved soon so the boys can put this behind them. what "bad decision" did the players make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, BillikenBoy10 said: If an assault did occur, kick the boys out. The injustice is how long it is taking them to determine that. (especially with no criminal case against them.) Either way, all parties involved should have a decision by now. It's been determined no assault occured, months ago. That's what makes the length of this process so frustrating, knowing that. This isn't a murder trial, but it's taking longer to come to a decision than most murder trials I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, BillikenBoy10 said: If an assault did occur, kick the boys out. The injustice is how long it is taking them to determine that. (especially with no criminal case against them.) Either way, all parties involved should have a decision by now. it seems impossible to me that if something bad enough happened they would of been booted first day of this thread. Any action less than this should not take this long to determine without any sunshine at all. went back and read first page of this and gotta chuckle out fact that that sensational Post article earned a whopping 7 comments. Very few of our fellow 3m metro citizens aren't all that concerned about our obsession Da Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It could be worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well Free the 3 made the post. Did anybody watch channel 5 last night? I saw Frank turn his camera to the Free the 3 sign early on in the game. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billiken-beat/slu-players-fans-go-public-with-free-the-slogan/article_77abe528-8199-52c9-adb6-19005ef86e22.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: Well Free the 3 made the post. Did anybody watch channel 5 last night? I saw Frank turn his camera to the Free the 3 sign early on in the game. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billiken-beat/slu-players-fans-go-public-with-free-the-slogan/article_77abe528-8199-52c9-adb6-19005ef86e22.html Did anyone ask Ford about the player’s tweets after the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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