brianstl Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 As for Stallings not being able to make deep runs in the Tournament I agree with those that say it's basically a crap shoot. Too small of a sample size to judge coaches off their NCAA tourney performance in almost all cases. And Stallings does have a Sweet 16 back when they lost to Georgetown ~10 years ago. He has two Sweet 16s. He lost to eventual champ UConn in the his other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBilliken Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I would take Cuonzo as the coach. I just don't think the Dr P wants to stand up at the press conference of his most high profile hire to date and have to answer questions about sexual harassment or deal with the blow back from women's groups on campus. That will all blow over once we start winning. No one will think twice about it. Cal is run by a bunch of PC nannies and women's groups. Cuonzo would be a clean hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hopefully Stallings is not just using us for a pay raise. It could be sort of a mutual parting. He checks a lot of boxes - experienced head coach, coached at a good academic school, local, also coached at a "mid major" while at Illinois State, should have built a lot of contacts over the years in terms of recruiting and attracting good assistants. Could be the guy to stay 10 years and build a program to hand off to somebody. The fact that he did better than most of his counterparts in the SEC against the odds, leads me to believe that he could do just fine in the A-10 against the likes of Dr. John, the goofball from UMass, whoever is coaching at Duquesne, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 That will all blow over once we start winning. No one will think twice about it. Cal is run by a bunch of PC nannies and women's groups. Cuonzo would be a clean hire. Obviously we don't know everything that went down at Cal, but I promise you that the current students at SLU are huge PC police. Trust me on that.Edit: my point is that a lot of undergrads who know nothing about basketball would read a blurb of something happening at Cal under Martin's watch and berate the administration through anonymous complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 weird how quickly people are dismissing martin's issues at Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Obviously we don't know everything that went down at Cal, but I promise you that the current students at SLU are huge PC police. Trust me on that. Edit: my point is that a lot of undergrads who know nothing about basketball would read a blurb of something happening at Cal under Martin's watch and berate the administration through anonymous complaints Not advocating for or against it, but college students today are generally the worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I would be blown away if they find anything at Cal on Cuonzo. If they don't hard to see him being let go. If they do I don't see us touching him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The Cal issue is pretty fresh. Let the dust settle before pointing fingers. In the meantime, Cal isn't going to let Martin go and no one's going to be interviewing him. This appears to have all been the responsibility of one bad assistant coach. My guess is that there won't be penalties beyond him and Martin will be fine. Also, instead of blaming students, women's groups, "PC" police - how about acknowledging the creep who harrassed a reporter and tried to get laid in exchange for information? There's no one to blame but him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Martin can leave Cal if chooses. He is working without a signed contract. He is basically a free agent if decides he has had enough of Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 We just need a coach who can get us to the tournament. Stallings would 100% get my vote. People need to be realistic about what kind of coach we can draw here and he's pretty darn high up there. We aren't getting an uber-accomplished coach with multiple elite 8s and no other warts on him. As for his lack of NCAA success, I suspect a lot of that is just plain bad luck. Give me a coach that gets SLU to the tournament year in and eventually we'll break through. The key is to get there, then let the ball bounce the way it bounces. Agree with these. The best way to make the S16 and beyond is to always be in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Making a sweet 16 and being a sweet 16 program are very different to me. I don't think you become a sweet 16 program without 8-10 years of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 who the hell cares about being a sweet 16 program? what does that even mean? Just win games, make tournament. That's all you can do. We are not Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier, WSU, Gonzage, Butler. Just come in top 3 in conference consistently. Make the tournament regularly. Win games in the tournament. Thats all you can ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's all about making the tournament and getting the paid units. SLU is getting paid through 2020 for the units earned in 2014. I would bet the AD is getting over $5 mil per year for the 3 tourney runs. If we don't make it back in the next few years and that money dries up, budgets are going to hurt. That is why this is a key hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Making a sweet 16 and being a sweet 16 program are very different to me. I don't think you become a sweet 16 program without 8-10 years of success Stallings is a good coach. Always been impressed how he has kept Vandy competitive in the SEC and in the annual discussion for NCAA bids. My excitement level for his hire would be about an 8 on a 10 scale. Martin and Drew would move the needle up pretty high though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I would bet the AD is getting over $5 mil per year for the 3 tourney runs. Lolololololololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 who the hell cares about being a sweet 16 program? what does that even mean? Just win games, make tournament. That's all you can do. We are not Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier, WSU, Gonzage, Butler. Just come in top 3 in conference consistently. Make the tournament regularly. Win games in the tournament. Thats all you can ask for. Consistently coming in top 3 in the conference and getting to the tournament is different than being like Butler, Xavier, Gonzaga, WSU???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 hearing from multiple sources John Wooden has been contacted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 This report is from Nashville https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveLayman/status/710587872097607680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 who the hell cares about being a sweet 16 program? what does that even mean? Just win games, make tournament. That's all you can do. We are not Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier, WSU, Gonzage, Butler. Just come in top 3 in conference consistently. Make the tournament regularly. Win games in the tournament. Thats all you can ask for. I think we can ask for more than that. However, I think that's where it begins. Making the tourney on a consistent basis should get you better recruits which should then enable you to make a deeper run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 A Vandy SB Nation piece on the Stallings rumor, mentions Capel, Grant, Moser, and Spoonhour as other rumored names.. http://buzztap.com/-6J1T2I Chris Beard stock trending up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slubillikens43 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'll take Chris Beard in a heartbeat. Young, energetic, and can win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 When was the last time an A10 team hired a coach from the SEC that had just been in the tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I don't totally know what this means but I'm certain it's incredibly dumb. Cuonzo Martin would be a home run. Tennessee blew it and Cal would be making the same mistake. Free Cuonzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 When was the last time an A10 team hired a coach from the SEC that had just been in the tournament? i mean..... its really not that big of a deal in my mind. The SEC = Kentucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 A Vandy SB Nation piece on the Stallings rumor, mentions Capel, Grant, Moser, and Spoonhour as other rumored names.. http://buzztap.com/-6J1T2I Chris Beard stock trending up That guy got those names from this site. Jay spoon hour is not coaching here. I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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