3star_recruit Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, SShoe said: I'm normally jacked up after recruits commit, but this one has me scratching my head a little. I confess, I have not SEENTHEKIDPLAY, but Santos' stats are mediocre for a bad team. He doesn't help us this year and will just be taking a scholly from a potential freshman or someone in 2018. It's also a little concerning in regards to a few existing players/recruits. One, he appears to be a similar player as Foreman. Is there ongoing concern about Foreman's long-term health. The same can be asked about Welmer. Given his health problems, is there a chance he may not be here long-term. I hope not because I think he offers something different - a good shooting big. You're just being greedy. Our fifth best big in 2018 is a 6'8 260 lb hulk who was top 150 high school player and a rotation player at another mid-major program. The fifth best big on virtually every other team in the A-10 is a skinny freshman who will be transferring to a low-major in two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, SShoe said: I'm normally jacked up after recruits commit, but this one has me scratching my head a little. I confess, I have not SEENTHEKIDPLAY, but Santos' stats are mediocre for a bad team. He doesn't help us this year and will just be taking a scholly from a potential freshman or someone in 2018. It's also a little concerning in regards to a few existing players/recruits. One, he appears to be a similar player as Foreman. Is there ongoing concern about Foreman's long-term health. The same can be asked about Welmer. Given his health problems, is there a chance he may not be here long-term. I hope not because I think he offers something different - a good shooting big. Last, and probably the biggest leap, does this raise any concern about Gordon's commitment? Is the staff hedging their bets a little to make sure they have another inside player if Gordon decommits? Fair concerns, but prior to this commitment, we only have 2 (maybe 3) guys on the roster who can play the 4 or 5. At a minimum, we needed depth at the 4/5 spot in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Macallan 18 said: Guys who don't start come off the bench. He won't be playing for a year so who knows what will happen between now and then? But for today, based on his mediocre numbers on a crappy team I don't see him as a starter. Since you apparently are a big SF Bulls fan, have seen all his games and have him penciled in as an all of a sudden big time starter please enlighten us further. Hilarious... I have seen him exactly zero times, likely same as you. I have seen his stats. I have seen Foreman's stats and Bess's stats and Graves stats and Henriquez stats. If we want to go by stats (yes I am probably the one most guilty of this) then only Henriquez is worth getting excited about. I have penciled Santos in for nothing more than a spot on the roster. Same for Foreman, Bess, Henriquez, Graves, French and Goodwin. You seem to already know Santos is better or worse than players he likely saw for the first time this weekend and two freshmen he has never seen. Wait and see. Who will transfer out after next season? Who will or won't sign a NLI? Who is going to get injured next season and might not be available until 2nd semester? To already have the bench lined out for 18/19, well, if you are that good, a much more important question is what will the Dow be in October, 2019? Ford will figure this out. And, yes, your opinion is fine. Everyone has one. I just find it very premature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pelican Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 minute ago, moytoy12 said: Fair concerns, but prior to this commitment, we only have 2 (maybe 3) guys on the roster who can play the 4 or 5. At a minimum, we needed depth at the 4/5 spot in a big way. Size matters at this level. You can be tall but if you don't have some size it's a problem. Also, a guy like this needs some help from the other four which was not really there. This will be a totally different fit and result. I bet he won't shoot it over the backboard - just some perspective for those that are concerned and worried... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Santos took Gillmans scholarship. Sits out a year and is eligible for next year due to the opening of gillmans scholarship. The other 2 remaining will go to freshmen or another transfer. At least that is how I think of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 46 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Santos took Gillmans scholarship. Sits out a year and is eligible for next year due to the opening of gillmans scholarship. The other 2 remaining will go to freshmen or another transfer. At least that is how I think of it The odd thing with those other 2 scholarships for this coming season and if we use both, unless one of those is a graduate transfer, we will be over committed on paper for 2018-19 (since the only senior is Roby). I like that we added a big, but think it made more sense for that big to be available to play this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: The odd thing with those other 2 scholarships for this coming season is that unless they are graduate transfers, we will be over committed on paper for 2018-19 (since the only senior is Roby). I like that we added a big, but think it made more sense for that big to be available to play this coming season. We only need one of the next two to be a graduate transfer to still have the right number for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, kshoe said: We only need one of the next two to be a graduate transfer to still have the right number for 2018. That is correct, my post read incorrectly despite being on the same page as you in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: So you saw his games at USF? A big Bull's fan? Already relegated him to the bench. Hilarious. Here is my stance. Don't get excited about Santos, or Foreman, or Henriquez, or Bess or Graves or French or Goodwin until you see them play at least a couple of college games in a Billiken uniform. You are 100 percent correct about not being excited until the kids are in uniform but i cannot help myself with my excitement with Goodwin and French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Does this mean the Tilmon dream is over or do we take him over Pickett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Franchise_08 said: Does this mean the Tilmon dream is over or do we take him over Pickett? If both Pickett and Tilmon want to commit, they will both be welcomed with open arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, TFord and TRavs said: Santos took Gillmans scholarship. Sits out a year and is eligible for next year due to the opening of gillmans scholarship. The other 2 remaining will go to freshmen or another transfer. At least that is how I think of it That puts you at one over the limit with only one graduating player next season and the Gordon and thatch commitments. So either there is another transfer or you only sign one more this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, SShoe said: That puts you at one over the limit with only one graduating player next season and the Gordon and thatch commitments. So either there is another transfer or you only sign one more this season. Sorry I was basing it on Verbal commits. I guess that site is confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 8:44 AM, JohnnyJumpUp said: ignore this i'm sending to see if i can get rid of the above. whenever i try to reply on this thread this ole reply i may not of sent comes up and i can't f%^&king get rid of. exiting day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) think how far Goodwin would of rose if he played all year. Edited April 21, 2017 by Quality Is Job 1 Tech assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: I hope so, and I hope they are all GREAT. But.....prove it first. This ain't high school high schools for starters! <it worked> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/jGoodwin1123/status/855672366936018948 https://mobile.twitter.com/jGoodwin1123/status/855652038637649920 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 3 hours ago, TheDude said: https://mobile.twitter.com/jGoodwin1123/status/855672366936018948 https://mobile.twitter.com/jGoodwin1123/status/855652038637649920 Could be about anything to be honest. Late night nature of the tweets on a Friday night would make me think "female related". Or JT could be committing soon. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 What if.... Mizzou gets Knox and J Porter SLU gets Pickett and Tilmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: What if.... Mizzou gets Knox and J Porter SLU gets Pickett and Tilmon What if slu got Tatum. What if Gordon goes to Mizzou. What if Ford goes to Kentucky. What if the sky falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: What if.... Mizzou gets Knox and J Porter SLU gets Pickett and Tilmon You can talk Mizzou recruiting with the folks at Tigerboard.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLsportsfan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Anybody heard anything on the Pickett front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 7 hours ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: What if.... Mizzou gets Knox and J Porter SLU gets Pickett and Tilmon Then both teams will be top 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: What if slu got Tatum. What if Gordon goes to Mizzou. What if Ford goes to Kentucky. What if the sky falls Why didn't anyone tell me the sky was falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615Billiken Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I want Khalea Turner-Morris more than anyone. Fills an immediate need and is still improves the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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