3star_recruit Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I know he's not expected to play much but I'm interested in seeing what Welmer can do in limited minutes. If a 5th year player came in, Welmer likely wouldn't play at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsidejoe Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sure, we can try but guys like that are in very high demand across the country. If only SLU had its own 5th year senior candidate that rebounds well and provides a lot of energy. Hmmmmm. give me a break/ move on please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I do not know much about basketball, but I know about public announcements. You cannot reach conclusions about public announcements that are purposely vague. You simply do not know the reason for the vagueness. The announcements on McBroom and Lancona came pretty quick and pretty un-vague, from both their side and Crews' side. The announcement on Glaze was very different and very vague. I don't think it takes black helicopters to wonder whether that means there's a chance he maybe comes back after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Josh Cunningham, 6'7" forward from Chicago, announced he is transferring from Bradley. Averaged 7.6 and 7.6 as a freshman this past season. Just saw Milik retweet the announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Man...why would a 4 star want to go to Bradley...were his parents faculty or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The announcements on McBroom and Lancona came pretty quick and pretty un-vague, from both their side and Crews' side. The announcement on Glaze was very different and very vague. I don't think it takes black helicopters to wonder whether that means there's a chance he maybe comes back after all. I was not referring to the announcements that TL and AM were out, I was referring to the purposely vague tweet about GG that apparently opened a crack in the door and caused a lot of speculation about GG coming back. Agree the announcements about TL and AM were straightforward, came from them largely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Josh Cunningham, 6'7" forward from Chicago, announced he is transferring from Bradley. Averaged 7.6 and 7.6 as a freshman this past season. Just saw Milik retweet the announcement. He was highly recruited out of high school and it was a bit of a surprise that he chose Bradley. I seem to recall we were in the recruiting mix for him as well. Those are impressive rebounding numbers for a freshman. Sounds like he probably knows MY a bit. May be a long shot, but certainly worth a phone call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I was not referring to the announcements that TL and AM were out, I was referring to the purposely vague tweet about GG that apparently opened a crack in the door and caused a lot of speculation about GG coming back. Agree the announcements about TL and AM were straightforward, came from them largely. Yeah seriously but how does a black helicopter help determine if he might come back? Is he missing in the woods and we need to do some FRIES/SPIES to get him back to campus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I could see us pursuing him or another 2015 player. The 2016 scholarships will take care of themselves, we will probably have at least one transfer next year to keep 2 schollies open. It's worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I could see us pursuing him or another 2015 player. The 2016 scholarships will take care of themselves, we will probably have at least one transfer next year to keep 2 schollies open. It's worth a shot. I can't imagine Cunningham is going to be available very long. I'm already chipper about the Bishop commitment. A 6'7 skywalker with perimeter skills transferring in would be too good to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Cunningham is going where ever his personal pimp, Chin Coleman lands an assistant job. Most likely DePaul. And I don't think he's worth the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 He was highly recruited out of high school and it was a bit of a surprise that he chose Bradley. I seem to recall we were in the recruiting mix for him as well. Those are impressive rebounding numbers for a freshman. Sounds like he probably knows MY a bit. May be a long shot, but certainly worth a phone call. HUGE long shot...schools like Indiana offered. After seeing the mass exodus at schools like Bradley and SIUC, plus Mizzou losing it's top gun and perhaps more, Crews at least deserves credit for stability. Yes a couple players left but sounds like it was the best for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Cunningham is going where ever his personal pimp, Chin Coleman lands an assistant job. Most likely DePaul. And I don't think he's worth the trouble. This makes sense. And yes, SLU was involved for a while with Cunningham. Not sure if we ever offered, though. There were a lot of schools in the mix at that point representing a huge range. I was surprised he ended up at Bradley, but I guess the Coleman connection was too strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Interesting comment by John Rothstein yesterday. Sources have told CBSSports.com that this is likely the last year that graduate transfers will be allowed to switch schools and not sit out, which would make these next few months the last time schools add "free agents" in college basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Interesting comment by John Rothstein yesterday. Sources have told CBSSports.com that this is likely the last year that graduate transfers will be allowed to switch schools and not sit out, which would make these next few months the last time schools add "free agents" in college basketball. Good. While the rule had good intentions it was abused non-stop and had a lot of unintended consequences. I saw today that Dylan Ennis, who averaged 10 PPG for Villanova intended to transfer under that rule. What makes a major contributor on a top 5 team want to transfer other than coaches from other schools poaching him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 This makes sense. And yes, SLU was involved for a while with Cunningham. Not sure if we ever offered, though. There were a lot of schools in the mix at that point representing a huge range. I was surprised he ended up at Bradley, but I guess the Coleman connection was too strong. His mom was a Bradley alum too which helped. He was between Iowa State, Indiana, and Bradley as his final choices. I am sure there will be $ome of the same with his re-recruitment this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Good. While the rule had good intentions it was abused non-stop and had a lot of unintended consequences. I saw today that Dylan Ennis, who averaged 10 PPG for Villanova intended to transfer under that rule. What makes a major contributor on a top 5 team want to transfer other than coaches from other schools poaching him? It would be interesting to find out how many of these 5th year transfers actually obtain a Master's Degree from their new school. My bet is that the percentage if pretty low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Who cares why they are transferring? If they have their degrees let them play where they want to play right away. Why should they have to be a slave to a school for another year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Who cares why they are transferring? If they have their degrees let them play where they want to play right away. Why should they have to be a slave to a school for another year? Why does having a degree mean you should be a free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Interesting comment by John Rothstein yesterday. Sources have told CBSSports.com that this is likely the last year that graduate transfers will be allowed to switch schools and not sit out, which would make these next few months the last time schools add "free agents" in college basketball. -I heard Mike Kelly, who is the Mizzou play by play announcer, on KMOX earlier this week talk about a movement among the coaches wanting to do something to turn back the tide of the increasing number of transfers so this fits that comment (came from a discussion about Mizzou's best player leaving) -the counter-point, you ignorant , is that coaches leave, sometimes with sanctions on the way, and they have no restrictions on going to another school -will be interesting to see what they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Why does having a degree mean you should be a free agent? I think a player that earns his degree should have the freedom to decide where to play. The NCAA produces commercial after commercial about how it is all about scholar athletes. People who actually complete the scholar part of the equation should have the same freedom to change schools as the coaches who are paid by those schools. What is smart about the NCAA deciding to exert additional control over athletes in today's environment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Seriously, what benefit is there to a player in forcing him to play at a place he no longer wants to play at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I don't mind the current rule if a guy has stayed at one school, but the AM type of situation just doesn't sit right. I'm not really disappointed about him leaving, but a kid who starts at one school, then transfers to another, sits out a year, plays two, graduates and then gets to move on to a third school just doesn't seem right. The school that accepted him in the first place invested a year of his education while he was sitting out. The school got no benefit on the court as the kid moves closer to getting his degree and can then use that degree to bolt from the school that invested in him. It seems to me, the rule should not apply to a kid who has already transferred once. If you want to transfer to a third school, sit out a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The kids are surrounded by adult mercenaries, from the coach to the athletic director. For them to impose rules on the players that they never apply to themselves s the height of hypocrisy. I don't like that there's no loyalty in sports but that's certainly not the kids' fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think a player that earns his degree should have the freedom to decide where to play. The NCAA produces commercial after commercial about how it is all about scholar athletes. People who actually complete the scholar part of the equation should have the same freedom to change schools as the coaches who are paid by those schools. What is smart about the NCAA deciding to exert additional control over athletes in today's environment? Exert additional control? Until a few years ago this rule didn't exist so this isn't exactly the NCAA changing a 100 year old policy here. They created a rule that had good intentions (allow players to leave who legitimately can't get a desired degree) and like many good things it has been abused by those using it as a loophole. From the schools perspective, the three most common ways a player ends up graduating and still having a year of eligibility: - Player gets redshirted - Player gets injured - Player transfers from another school and has to sit out In all three of these scenarios, the school is paying for a year of education and getting nothing in return. How are they rewarded for it? By having the player leave right before their most productive season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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