Box and Won Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 ###### give me that kid all day. He was a beast in the MVC tourney!!! Yeah, he's a nice player - I'd take that guy in a heartbeat. You people in Evansville really like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder what a guy like Jordan Barnett is thinking these days. He goes off to Texas, plays 8.5 minutes per game for an underachieving team and now his coach is likely going to be fired. I'd certainly be interested in a kid like that if he became available on the transfer wire. I know others don't want to accept St. Louis kids back as transfers but to me that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Id take him in a heart beat but I'd assume he goes to play pro ball back home or he can pick up a lower level BCS/tournament team offer as a one year guy. And that is just If he transfers which isn't known yet since they are still playing. One name that might be a good fit is Max Bielfeldt who is going to be leaving Mixhigan most likely. Solid big man that could fill a gap. Not a game changer but would provide 20 solid minutes a game. There is an angle for landing someone like this guy in SLU. Evansville offers only 5 graduate programs (a doctorate in physical therapy and 4 masters in public administration, athletic training, public health administration, and physicians assitant). SLU has a wide variety of graduate programs which may be more suitable to this man's career plans. We could use the greater variety of graduate programs in SLU as a selling point to landing this player in our team after his graduation from Evansville. It is worth a try anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishdude Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yes, he doesn't really take them at all. He's also a beanpole and turns the ball over too much. But I disagree with this sentiment that we have a massive hole at PG, we must recruit one immediately, and that recruit would then step in and play major minutes next season. Also feels like Bartley can't be a PG because he's 6-4, and SLU doesn't get 6-4 PG's. Similarly, Neufeld can't be good as a freshman because SLU doesn't get bigs who are good as freshman. Neufeld reclassified so he will be a year older and apparently has played well at Sunrise. He is a high academic kid also. Ben Weixlmann made some very high comments about Matt and felt he may be one of SLUs best recruits in awhile. I think he will surprise a lot of people. He got a lot of attention last year from some good schools but they only wanted him without reclassifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neufeld reclassified so he will be a year older and apparently has played well at Sunrise. He is a high academic kid also. Ben Weixlmann made some very high comments about Matt and felt he may be one of SLUs best recruits in awhile. I think he will surprise a lot of people. He got a lot of attention last year from some good schools but they only wanted him without reclassifying. Weixlmann also said Reynolds was a knockdown shooter and would make the biggest impact as a freshmen. I really think Neufeld will be a good player for us and he'll contribute from the start, but I do think some need to temper expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Bartley is a good shooter. He has potential to be a solid point guard, but he hasn't shown much yet. Bartley's 55 assists (tied for the team lead) would have ranked 4th on the 2010-2011 team. His height means nothing. You're either good or you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Bartley is a good shooter. He has potential to be a solid point guard, but he hasn't shown much yet. Bartley's 55 assists (tied for the team lead) would have ranked 4th on the 2010-2011 team. His height means nothing. You're either good or you're not. I feel like he has decent vision as well, just not the ability to get the defense rotating after beating his man. No one on this team could effectively use screens, which hurt our offense more than anything when compounded with our inability to find anyone who could beat their man 1v1. Roby showed flashes of this ability to penetrate, which is why he looked like the best point on our team at times. If I'm the freshmen, I go to the gym everyday as a group and just working on using (and defending) ball screens. The two bigs setting screens and the four others learning to use them (and honestly the upperclassmen could use the practice, too). If Jordair is around, have him show you the ropes. Best I've seen at using the PNR to beat the defense. The two biggest things that I will be watching for next year: can we use ball screens to get the defense moving; and can our guards stay in front of their man. Both of these require subtle contributions from the bigs (good timing, positioning on picks; appropriate hedging on D), but our guard play will be more easily evaluated by lay people such as myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder what a guy like Jordan Barnett is thinking these days. He goes off to Texas, plays 8.5 minutes per game for an underachieving team and now his coach is likely going to be fired. I'd certainly be interested in a kid like that if he became available on the transfer wire. I know others don't want to accept St. Louis kids back as transfers but to me that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face. People are dumb if they don't want Barnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neufeld reclassified so he will be a year older and apparently has played well at Sunrise. He is a high academic kid also. Ben Weixlmann made some very high comments about Matt and felt he may be one of SLUs best recruits in awhile. I think he will surprise a lot of people. He got a lot of attention last year from some good schools but they only wanted him without reclassifying. Your first mistake was listening to Ben Weix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Your first mistake was listening to Ben Weix He has me blocked on Twitter. Still don't know why. I don't think I'm missing a whole lot but who knows. I'll miss his constant ass kissing of the German natl soccer team and Bayern Munich, with the occasional college basketball item. Haenchen is the best of all the billiken guys IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Haenchen is the best of all the billiken guys IMO It's hard to ignore the constant Mizzou talk and he even goes overboard on the Blues too, but I totally agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's hard to ignore the constant Mizzou talk and he even goes overboard on the Blues too, but I totally agree with this. Well he is a Blues writer for 920, so it is understandable, but he's an unfollow in the offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigMouthBilliken Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 https://twitter.com/studurando/status/581509873638117376 https://twitter.com/studurando/status/581510052705521664 Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 He has me blocked on Twitter. Still don't know why. I don't think I'm missing a whole lot but who knows. I'll miss his constant ass kissing of the German natl soccer team and Bayern Munich, with the occasional college basketball item. Haenchen is the best of all the billiken guys IMO He blocked me as well, and I can't think of any reason why he would. Somehow, Darren Rovell didn't block me after Moytoy and I gave him all kinds of sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigMouthBilliken Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 https://twitter.com/studurando/status/581515029398212608It should be "goodbye" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It should be "goodbye" Without knowing anything about some of the other off-the-court stuff that has been insinuated on this board, I would love to have Grandy back next year. His energy, physicality, rebounding, and on-court leadership would be nice to have back for one season, while it would also give us another scholly for 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 My opinion is that unless Grandy is a difference maker next year, I'd rather go young. And by difference maker, I don't mean 15 wins to 17 wins. I mean he's gotta be able to get us in the postseason. I guess he's better than saving the scholarship unless Crews plays him over the young guys and stunts their development. The on-court leadership thing is tough to say without knowing what exactly happened this year. The guys still followed Mitchell's leadership after he was suspended, but it doesn't seem like they were following Reed during his brief return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How could they have followed Reed? He wasn't allowed to participate in team activities. He had to sit in the student section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How could they have followed Reed? He wasn't allowed to participate in team activities. He had to sit in the student section. Just because he wasn't publicly allowed to be in team activities doesn't mean he wasn't around the team all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Without knowing anything about some of the other off-the-court stuff that has been insinuated on this board, I would love to have Grandy back next year. His energy, physicality, rebounding, and on-court leadership would be nice to have back for one season, while it would also give us another scholly for 2016. My opinion is that unless Grandy is a difference maker next year, I'd rather go young. And by difference maker, I don't mean 15 wins to 17 wins. I mean he's gotta be able to get us in the postseason. I guess he's better than saving the scholarship unless Crews plays him over the young guys and stunts their development. The on-court leadership thing is tough to say without knowing what exactly happened this year. The guys still followed Mitchell's leadership after he was suspended, but it doesn't seem like they were following Reed during his brief return. Is the 2016 class good enough for us to 'save' 3 scholarships? I ask that honestly...I know there's Tatum, Cook, Barnes, and Sneed. But past that top tier, is it worth it to hold schollies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 With the two remaining scholarships, I would target a freshman PG for one spot and a 5th year or JUCO big with the other spot. If there is an opportunity to land a quality scorer at another position or and impact transfer, then you go that route. IF you are in mid-May and it still looks like one of the scholarships will go unused, then you bring GG back if everything is in good order between him and JC. In essence, he would be like our 5th year guy. He at least could provide some rebounding for a team that desperately needs it and is a physical player for our other bigs to battle with in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just because he wasn't publicly allowed to be in team activities doesn't mean he wasn't around the team all the time. Not sure what you mean by "following" in this scenario, or how much the team "followed" Grandy last year when he was away from the team. But he would have to be quite a "cancer" to make me prefer an empty spot on the roster to one more year of him as a placeholder/rebounding specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Is the 2016 class good enough for us to 'save' 3 scholarships? I ask that honestly...I know there's Tatum, Cook, Barnes, and Sneed. But past that top tier, is it worth it to hold schollies? I don't know, but we just have 2 schollies to give this year and if you use both on high schoolers, then you only have 1 for 2016, as Ash will be the only senior. If you can truly find difference makers via the Juco or high school route, then great, but I'm more than OK using 1 on a high school player or Juco and giving Grandy the other, assuming he is not considered a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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