gobillsgo Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 23 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Another forecast. Most rankings that I have seen are consistent on the Top 5, with placement changing. What’s Torvik, and what did we do to them?? Quote
billikenfan05 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Just now, gobillsgo said: What’s Torvik, and what did we do to them?? Probably sucked last season and have a near complete roster turnover. We're going to be skewed negatively in statistical models until we hit the court. SLU_Lax 1 Quote
slubillikens43 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Saint+Louis&year=2025 Quote
gobillsgo Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 16 minutes ago, slubillikens43 said: https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Saint+Louis&year=2025 According to the second link, we only have a 45% chance of beating Santa Clara. I know they don’t really have a data pool to pull from apart from piecing together individual performances from last year, but I like our chances a lot better than 45%. Also has us at 8-10 in the A10. Quote
VeniceMenace Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 On 9/26/2024 at 11:14 PM, HoosierPal said: This is interesting in that when Scherz came in, during one of his initial interviews, he used the terms Creator instead of Handler and Big instead of Trigger. I like the term Creator over Handler, not as limiting to me, and Trigger over Big, only as it pertains to Avila. Hybrids, Swings and Shooters were in his original terminology. Worthless coach speak jargon. Quote
billikenfan05 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Great to see the UNews has a dedicated hoops writer this season. The article is really good too, interesting to see a little shade thrown at Ford's coaching style. https://unewsonline.com/2024/10/head-coach-schertzs-vision-for-rebuilding-saint-louis-university-basketball/ Pistol and Aquinas 2 Quote
Wendelprof Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Thanks for posting the link. I enjoyed the read. At the bottom of the article there's a link to donate to support the UNews. I donated. As an out of town fan I prefer supporting the UNews to paying for the Post-Dispatch articles about the team. Aquinas, wgstl, Pistol and 1 other 4 Quote
almaman Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 we in towners do our best to get us the PD info as it is occasionally informative. HoosierPal 1 Quote
Pistol Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 First exhibition game is two weeks from today. Getting close! gabriel and MusicCityBilliken 2 Quote
slu72 Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 7 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Fun stuff here. When do we play the Bisons? HoosierPal and CenHudDude 2 Quote
MusicCityBilliken Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 A10 KenPom Preseason Rankings: 27. Dayton 41. VCU 79. Loyola Chicago 86. Saint Joseph's 98. George Mason 105. Saint Louis 117. UMass 122. Rhode Island 123. St. Bonaventure 125. Davidson 139. Richmond 143. Duquesne 146. GW 164. Fordham 167. La Salle Quote
billiken_roy Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 Ken Pom obviously is either a lazy "journalist" or lacks college basketball knowledge. CenHudDude 1 Quote
MusicCityBilliken Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Ken Pom obviously is either a lazy "journalist" or lacks college basketball knowledge. He really does not become relevant till mid-December. You should see who has us losing to and a final record. I would be highly disappointed if we have at the end his prediction. I know I am drowning in Kool aid but I see this team similar to the 12-15 teams. A more cerebral team rather than raw athleticism. Crewsorlose and billiken_roy 2 Quote
shempie Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 SIAP Blue Ribbon is out and has us 25th in the nation and RA as a 3rd team All-American. And they have LH is the 5th starter FWIW. A quick look through the previews of some of our opponenets shows there are going to be a few sneaky good OOC games starting with Santa Clara. And LMU has a strong Missouri connection with Lorenzo Romar as an assistant and the youngest Porter (Jevon) and Chris Carrawell's son on the roster. If you only buy one preview BR is the one, IMO. thatskablamo 1 Quote
wgstl Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, shempie said: SIAP Blue Ribbon is out and has us 25th in the nation and RA as a 3rd team All-American. And they have LH is the 5th starter FWIW. A quick look through the previews of some of our opponenets shows there are going to be a few sneaky good OOC games starting with Santa Clara. And LMU has a strong Missouri connection with Lorenzo Romar as an assistant and the youngest Porter (Jevon) and Chris Carrawell's son on the roster. If you only buy one preview BR is the one, IMO. Umass Lowell at #120 was a shock I wasn't expecting. Quote
wgstl Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 Ap poll is out. We received 9 votes, tied for #40th https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll OkieBilliken and VeniceMenace 2 Quote
Old guy Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 What Ken Pom does is similar to what the Wiz does. He bases the preseason rankings upon the prior year rankings. Considering Team Ranking rankings for last season had SLU at 184 (do not know Ken Pom rankings for the end of las season) his preseason ranking is not out of line. He will wait, as The Wiz does for actual game result to modify his rankings. From a statistical point of view, both The Wiz and Ken Pom (using different systems based upon data) are correct. Quote
MusicCityBilliken Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 46 minutes ago, wgstl said: Ap poll is out. We received 9 votes, tied for #40th https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll Dayton & VCU not even mentioned Quote
VeniceMenace Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 46 minutes ago, wgstl said: Ap poll is out. We received 9 votes, tied for #40th https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll Actually VCU is listed, shortly after SLU, with 6 votes. McNeese listed higher than SLU, surely due to Sincere Parker transfer. Quote
billiken_roy Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Old guy said: What Ken Pom does is similar to what the Wiz does. He bases the preseason rankings upon the prior year rankings. Considering Team Ranking rankings for last season had SLU at 184 (do not know Ken Pom rankings for the end of las season) his preseason ranking is not out of line. He will wait, as The Wiz does for actual game result to modify his rankings. From a statistical point of view, both The Wiz and Ken Pom (using different systems based upon data) are correct. in this day and age of college sports free agency that is a worthless act. every team will pretty much have a majority of their roster completely turned over. and basing their "prediction" on last year is foolish. i hope they dont get paid for that work. Quote
ACE Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 2 hours ago, wgstl said: Ap poll is out. We received 9 votes, tied for #40th https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll The one non-P6 team in the preseason Top 25 (Gonzaga) will soon be in the P6. Then you have to go all the way down to McNeese, followed by us with 9 votes to find the non-P6 schools. This is just a preseason poll of course and hopefully several non-P6 schools will exceed expectations, but I remain pessimistic about non P-6 schools having the opportunity to earn at large bids in the future unless something changes in the current landscape. Quote
HoosierPal Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 According to Stu, our 9 votes were from one pollster, Mike Hlas who is a sports columnist from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. If you are curious, you can review how each of the 64 pollsters voted. I wasn't that interested, so I didn't research. https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll Quote
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