ACE Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 This will be a big topic as soon as the head coach presser is concluded... These are the players that remain: Brad Thames Hughes Curcic Zhang Magassa I expect most of these to be gone, I think Thames could serve a nice bench role and I wouldn't have a problem if Curcic stuck around to develop. I'm okay if Hughes is willing to accept a MUCH smaller role, but wouldn't blame him for moving on. Brad could provide some value off the bench, but I would be surprised if he stuck around. We'll be glued to the portal to see when ISU players hit it - other than the 5 starters, I don't see anything on their bench. The three ISU recruits could be in play. I think the only way Gibby possibly comes back is if one of the ISU guards doesn't come over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Me thinks LHJ stays especially if its Schertz. Bruce while lacking skill, fits in perfectly with Schertz system. I also think Gibby comes back under Schertz, can you imagine Gibby with the passing of Avila (!). I'd also keep Thames and Crucic. billiken_roy and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, wgstl said: Me thinks LHJ stays especially if its Schertz. Bruce while lacking skill, fits in perfectly with Schertz system. I also think Gibby comes back under Schertz, can you imagine Gibby with the passing of Avila (!). I'd also keep Thames and Crucic. this is my hope along with keeping the top recruit to come with him. i think that would be a very good roster to go to the next season with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 If he's the guy the coming n staying players r akin 2 cable tv deals. i care not about the cost during the special, I want to know what it costs after that. with coaches I want 2 b assured if we swapped coaches our team would b better 2morrow. our recent history & his makes me think he will b good recruiter so I feel good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, ACE said: This will be a big topic as soon as the head coach presser is concluded... These are the players that remain: Brad Thames Hughes Curcic Zhang Magassa I expect most of these to be gone, I think Thames could serve a nice bench role and I wouldn't have a problem if Curcic stuck around to develop. I'm okay if Hughes is willing to accept a MUCH smaller role, but wouldn't blame him for moving on. Brad could provide some value off the bench, but I would be surprised if he stuck around. We'll be glued to the portal to see when ISU players hit it - other than the 5 starters, I don't see anything on their bench. The three ISU recruits could be in play. I think the only way Gibby possibly comes back is if one of the ISU guards doesn't come over. I dont know anything about Mugassa shooting. Brad is definitely not a stretch 5. I dont see him fitting at all. I wonder what his computer will say if the Wizz asks Ehat current Billikens players fit Schertz system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Aquinas said: I dont know anything about Mugassa shooting. Brad is definitely not a stretch 5. I dont see him fitting at all. I wonder what his computer will say if the Wizz asks Ehat current Billikens players fit Schertz system? I could have fed individual players in to the computer but instead I fed the whole roster in.... There were 6 players that the computer said could play on a Schertz team...3 sure players and 3 maybe/bench players. Of course the player it liked the best was Parker but reports say he is not coming back. Another player the computer thought would be good was Hargrove...and we know he is not coming back . Finally, there is Jimerson. If Schertz brings 5 players Jimerson and a few other ISU players might get a few min less /gm which isn't necessarily bad. If he brings 4 then Jimerson and the other ISU players could play their usual mins. On the maybe / bench players(getting about the same min they got this year).....Hughes(he would need to improve shooting inside the arc)...Thames (he would need to improve FT shooting)...Curcic (he would need to get a few more rebs) Bottom line...1 player (Jimerson) could make the cut from the entire existing roster....3 could be maybe/bench players...Thames...Hughes...Curcic....the others would not make the cut. Aquinas, Zink and Soderball like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Purge all. Let’s test drive this NIL fund with a new driver. SLU_Nick likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: I could have fed individual players in to the computer but instead I fed the whole roster in.... There were 6 players that the computer said could play on a Schertz team...3 sure players and 3 maybe/bench players. Of course the player it liked the best was Parker but reports say he is not coming back. Another player the computer thought would be good was Hargrove...and we know he is not coming back . Finally, there is Jimerson. If Schertz brings 5 players Jimerson and a few other ISU players might get a few min less /gm which isn't necessarily bad. If he brings 4 then Jimerson and the other ISU players could play their usual mins. On the maybe / bench players(getting about the same min they got this year).....Hughes(he would need to improve shooting inside the arc)...Thames (he would need to improve FT shooting)...Curcic (he would need to get a few more rebs) Bottom line...1 player (Jimerson) could make the cut from the entire existing roster....3 could be maybe/bench players...Thames...Hughes...Curcic....the others would not make the cut. It seems that Schertz has a well defined system and recruits to it. His system seems based in analytics, so he likely is evaluating every potential player that way. He will probably reach the same conclusion as the Wiz. Thanks Wiz. The ground is changing under the feet of our current players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Don't think Parker would want to play for Schertz, he'd throw up if he saw this. AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 beats 2 every day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 21 hours ago, ACE said: This will be a big topic as soon as the head coach presser is concluded... These are the players that remain: Brad Thames Hughes Curcic Zhang Magassa I expect most of these to be gone, I think Thames could serve a nice bench role and I wouldn't have a problem if Curcic stuck around to develop. I'm okay if Hughes is willing to accept a MUCH smaller role, but wouldn't blame him for moving on. Brad could provide some value off the bench, but I would be surprised if he stuck around. We'll be glued to the portal to see when ISU players hit it - other than the 5 starters, I don't see anything on their bench. The three ISU recruits could be in play. I think the only way Gibby possibly comes back is if one of the ISU guards doesn't come over. No one has mentioned Williford. Has he requested out of his NLI? I know nothing about his situation nor his basketball skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, HoosierPal said: No one has mentioned Williford. Has he requested out of his NLI? I know nothing about his situation nor his basketball skills. Nothing yet. It is worth noting that he had an offer from Indiana State, though, as I think @billikenfan05 pointed out the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 22 hours ago, ACE said: These are the players that remain: Brad Thames Hughes Curcic Zhang Magassa The only two we need to keep on this list are Hughes and Thames. Hughes is self explanatory. Thames has something nobody else on that list has, something which can't be taught, either you got it or you don't, Thames has it and you need players like that around. cgeldmacher likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: The only two we need to keep on this list are Hughes and Thames. Hughes is self explanatory. Thames has something nobody else on that list has, something which can't be taught, either you got it or you don't, Thames has it and you need players like that around. Curcic I’d keep for his shooting looks like he could be a really nice depth piece next year. JohnnyJumpUp likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 31 minutes ago, Pistol said: Nothing yet. It is worth noting that he had an offer from Indiana State, though, as I think @billikenfan05 pointed out the other day. This is the timeline of his recruiting. ISU actually offered him before we did. https://247sports.com/Player/JaQuavis-Williford-46143006/TimelineEvents/ I would think we would be a nice addition for any offensively skilled player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I'd keep Thames and a big. Hughes and Curcic are fine but I don't have a need to keep either at all. I'm not sure Thames is going to reach his potential but you can't give up on a guy like that. And keep a big even if it just ends up being for depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 41 minutes ago, Pistol said: Nothing yet. It is worth noting that he had an offer from Indiana State, though, as I think @billikenfan05 pointed out the other day. I have 05 on ignore for a year, so I wouldn’t read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I have 05 on ignore for a year, so I wouldn’t read that. Mistake. Dude knows ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 In order of preference, I want this dream roster... 1) Avilla 2) Conwell 3) Kent 4) Larry 5) Swope * The reason I have Swope last, is because if he doesn't come over, then we welcome back Gibby. Then I'm fine taking all three of Schertz's incoming recruits, especially the big man, and let's keep our recruit Williford, who I'm intrigued with. With an experienced starting lineup, I would be fine having four freshman because there won't be a lot of available minutes. So that leaves four more spots. 1) I like Thames as a bench guy, good athleticism and versatility... a solid back-up to Kent 2) A combo guard who is a great perimeter defender first and foremost 3) A more offensive minded combo guard to provide additional ballhandling and another shooter (possibly Hughes, I thought he was over-exposed this year, but in a more limited role, could be effective) 4) Most important, a rim protector & or a bad ass rebounding big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, ACE said: In order of preference, I want this dream roster... 1) Avilla 2) Conwell 3) Kent 4) Larry 5) Swope * The reason I have Swope last, is because if he doesn't come over, then we welcome back Gibby. Then I'm fine taking all three of Schertz's incoming recruits, especially the big man, and let's keep our recruit Williford, who I'm intrigued with. With an experienced starting lineup, I would be fine having four freshman because there won't be a lot of available minutes. So that leaves four more spots. 1) I like Thames as a bench guy, good athleticism and versatility... a solid back-up to Kent 2) A combo guard who is a great perimeter defender first and foremost 3) A more offensive minded combo guard to provide additional ballhandling and another shooter (possibly Hughes, I thought he was over-exposed this year, but in a more limited role, could be effective) 4) Most important, a rim protector & or a bad ass rebounding big Swope is a 5'10" PG. Not a swap for Gibson Jimerson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 34 minutes ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: Mistake. Dude knows ball. If he knows ball I'm FBJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 35 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Swope is a 5'10" PG. Not a swap for Gibson Jimerson. Their guards are versatile, but I consider him a 2 with Conwell the 3. Julian Larry the PG considering he leads them in assists. A backcourt of Conwell, JLarry and Gibby would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 19 minutes ago, Littlebill said: If he knows ball I'm FBJS Hi Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: Mistake. Dude knows ball. Has nothing to do with basketball or sports. Enough said by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: I'd keep Thames and a big. Hughes and Curcic are fine but I don't have a need to keep either at all. I'm not sure Thames is going to reach his potential but you can't give up on a guy like that. And keep a big even if it just ends up being for depth. might as well keep a big, cause Avila plays a ton of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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