Lord Elrond Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, slu72 said: So just to clarify our roster status: Zheng - good to go but injured Ezwiro- up in the air pending waiver approval Brussel- awaiting NCAA approval for Int players Magassa- same as Brussel And the reason for the last two is the woman that left the AD didn’t do her job re the Int’l players? You are not eligible until the NCAA says you are eligible, and they have their schedule, which might not coincide with what you’d like it to be. Not sure what buttons can be pushed, especially with the button-pusher position empty… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said: You are not eligible until the NCAA says you are eligible, and they have their schedule, which might not coincide with what you’d like it to be. Not sure what buttons can be pushed, especially with the button-pusher position empty… The issue is that Brad's waiver request paperwork was not filed in a timely manner from what I understand(He committed 5/13 I think). It's also possible that these eligibility issues were not discovered regarding Magassa, SVB or Zhang until recently. Both would fall on that position MONTHS ago. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: The issue is that Brad's waiver request paperwork was not filed in a timely manner from what I understand(He committed 5/13 I think). It's also possible that these eligibility issues were not discovered regarding Magassa, SVB or Zhang until recently. Both would fall on that position MONTHS ago. Yep, which means they are at the bottom of the pile… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: The issue is that Brad's waiver request paperwork was not filed in a timely manner from what I understand(He committed 5/13 I think). It's also possible that these eligibility issues were not discovered regarding Magassa, SVB or Zhang until recently. Both would fall on that position MONTHS ago. Woof. SLU has always been pretty bad with logistics, but it’s always just been the source of annoyance or amusement for those who have the option to see things behind the scenes. If it’s affecting the players themselves and the on-court product, that’s really bad if true. Bills71 and Bizziken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 How long was it til Cody Ellis got to play his first year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Billikenbooster said: How long was it til Cody Ellis got to play his first year? Looks like his first game was 1/9/2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Makes sense to me that the NCAA would want to scrutinize van Bussel and Magassa's eligibility as they both played semi-pro ball. So, NIL aside, it'd make sense that there'd be some scrutiny of the nature of their prior affiliations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Billikenbooster said: How long was it til Cody Ellis got to play his first year? This, unlike the Cody Ellis situation, is squarely on the athletics department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Compton said: Makes sense to me that the NCAA would want to scrutinize van Bussel and Magassa's eligibility as they both played semi-pro ball. So, NIL aside, it'd make sense that there'd be some scrutiny of the nature of their prior affiliations. We've had multiple recruits over the years with these issues. But never have they taken this long. There's more to this story than simply the NCAA taking their sweet a$$ time. Far more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 If I recall correctly, Cody’s status had to with an academic issue. Can’t recall specifically what the issue was but it may have had to with the school he graduated from. I don’t think it had anything to do with playing semi pro ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 he was ahead of his time with the blue hair highlight thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, slu72 said: If I recall correctly, Cody’s status had to with an academic issue. Can’t recall specifically what the issue was but it may have had to with the school he graduated from. I don’t think it had anything to do with playing semi pro ball. I think that’s right, I think I remember Zac and Peter discussing it on their show at one point too. It was something really lame like taking a required course as pass/fail complicating the GPA or something strange like that not reflective of his qualifications as a student. I don’t know anything about the process, but remember seeing how the NCAA was struggling to keep up reviewing waivers as the numbers are far greater than typical. While that would presumably be a different process than clearing kids, I wonder if there are any shared responsibilities or if they are having increased workloads as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Right, one of his HS classes was pass/fail (he passed) instead of on a grade scale so he had to sit the first 9 games. Just a totally cool ruling from a top-notch organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, almaman said: he was ahead of his time with the blue hair highlight thing Kyla McMakin is going with the blue streak this season. Good sign. Lord Elrond likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: I think that’s right, I think I remember Zac and Peter discussing it on their show at one point too. It was something really lame like taking a required course as pass/fail complicating the GPA or something strange like that not reflective of his qualifications as a student. I don’t know anything about the process, but remember seeing how the NCAA was struggling to keep up reviewing waivers as the numbers are far greater than typical. While that would presumably be a different process than clearing kids, I wonder if there are any shared responsibilities or if they are having increased workloads as well. Given the reported increase in volume, I’m guessing the NCAA has a lot of waivers to review. I can’t see them rushing one from SLU that was received late over one from another that was received on time, the only fair way for them to operate is work them as received with all proper paperwork attached. So if SLU had to correct something it submitted or it got in late, then that waiver request is at the bottom of the pile. They are ineligible until ruled eligible, it’s going to take a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I’d like to point out that while it sounds odd for a position high in the university system to become open in the middle of the year, we don’t know (and I don’t know) what personal situation whoever had that position might have been going through, so let’s hold off judgement until we actually know something official. Example, our current Volleyball head coach, Andrea Beaty, got handed the interim head coach position at Denver last year right before the season started. Why? The guy who was head coach was diagnosed with testicular cancer, and had to take care of himself first and foremost (the article on the internet I saw mentioned he had 2 small girls and an infant. I’m not saying I know anything about how the SLU compliance head position became open when it did, but I say let’s not make assumptions until we know facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The irony of it all is once again you spend all summer prepping to open a $20 million dollar facility to serve your student athletes and you fail to do the one thing you HAVE to do for a student athlete: ensure that their eligibility picture is clear. Baffling. VeniceMenace, Bizziken and AGB91 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said: I’d like to point out that while it sounds odd for a position high in the university system to become open in the middle of the year, we don’t know (and I don’t know) what personal situation whoever had that position might have been going through, so let’s hold off judgement until we actually know something official. Example, our current Volleyball head coach, Andrea Beaty, got handed the interim head coach position at Denver last year right before the season started. Why? The guy who was head coach was diagnosed with testicular cancer, and had to take care of himself first and foremost (the article on the internet I saw mentioned he had 2 small girls and an infant. I’m not saying I know anything about how the SLU compliance head position became open when it did, but I say let’s not make assumptions until we know facts. I don't disagree with what you are saying, but the root of this situation will never be made available to the public. All we do know is that someone had a job to do, their only job, if the title of that person's position is correct, and that person did not do their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, slu72 said: So just to clarify our roster status: Zheng - good to go but injured Ezwiro- up in the air pending waiver approval Brussel- awaiting NCAA approval for Int players Magassa- same as Brussel And the reason for the last two is the woman that left the AD didn’t do her job re the Int’l players? Stef van Bussel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Pistol said: Kyla McMakin is going with the blue streak this season. Good sign. 2nd A10 Championship incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 hours ago, slu72 said: So just to clarify our roster status: Zheng - good to go but injured Ezwiro- up in the air pending waiver approval Brussel- awaiting NCAA approval for Int players Magassa- same as Brussel And the reason for the last two is the woman that left the AD didn’t do her job re the Int’l players? If that is true about the person who left did not follow through before she left then that is completely on the shoulders of who is supposed to be overseeing the process. I get a little tired of those who are actually in charge not keeping an eye on their areas. I don't blame the woman because anybody with a brain should have expected that she would leave loose ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, cheeseman said: If that is true about the person who left did not follow through before she left then that is completely on the shoulders of who is supposed to be overseeing the process. I get a little tired of those who are actually in charge not keeping an eye on their areas. I don't blame the woman because anybody with a brain should have expected that she would leave loose ends I believe that this was all discovered prior to departure and it’s possible it’s what led to said departure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I believe that this was all discovered prior to departure and it’s possible it’s what led to said departure Well you may be correct but if she was not being effective they should have been more watchful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Well you may be correct but if she was not being effective they should have been more watchful. I agree with you. Or if they knew she was prone to errors just cut bait years ago cheeseman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Looks like the NIT is now going to be harder for A10 schools to make: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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