shempie Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -at Carbondale and ? Drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, brianstl said: Yes. So is the NC State Away game the one that is being postponed another year to avoid a 6th Away game? If we are playing Drake and SUIC on the road, it has to be. The Tourney has 3 and that is what brought up the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: So is the NC State Away game the one that is being postponed another year to avoid a 6th Away game? If we are playing Drake and SUIC on the road, it has to be. The Tourney has 3 and that is what brought up the issue. So stupid. I think if they polled season ticket holders, 95%+ of us would happily give up a game vs Paul Quinn in exchange for a good road game, and still pay the same for the season ticket. Maybe I’m wrong though. BilliesBy40 and dlarry like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, brianstl said: According to Bart Torvik's T-Tank system SLU will finish 15-16 and 8th in the A10 at 8-10. This is based on the current roster. I would put more weight into the conference prediction since the non-conference schedule isn't complete. It feels a little more pessimistic than where I think the team finishes, but not by much if they don't add a veteran big that can give them a solid 20-25 mpg. https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php?conlimit=A10&state=All&year=2023&sort= Always interesting to look at this early stuff. I can see Duquesne leading the pack, but I would be amazed if Loyola jumps from 10-21 to 21-9. George Mason, uh, not sure they will be more of less the same as last year, after losing Odoro. On the SLU Contributors projections, Hargrove apparently is going to turn into a stud, averaging 13.7 ppg up from 5.9 last season. Thames on the other hand appears to be slotted with the Walk On's Jones and Evans in mop up minutes. I doubt if either happens. Hey, it's something to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: So stupid. I think if they polled season ticket holders, 95%+ of us would happily give up a game vs Paul Quinn in exchange for a good road game, and still pay the same for the season ticket. Maybe I’m wrong though. Maybe that is the answer. I haven't heard one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, gobillsgo said: So stupid. I think if they polled season ticket holders, 95%+ of us would happily give up a game vs Paul Quinn in exchange for a good road game, and still pay the same for the season ticket. Maybe I’m wrong though. We are contracted by the arena operators to give them so many home dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I think we should play all our non conference games against Paul Quinn type teams so that we can go into A10 play with like a 10-3 record so it's easier to get 20 wins BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I think we should play all our non conference games against Paul Quinn type teams so that we can go into A10 play with like a 10-3 record so it's easier to get 20 wins #justwin20 BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Always interesting to look at this early stuff. I can see Duquesne leading the pack, but I would be amazed if Loyola jumps from 10-21 to 21-9. George Mason, uh, not sure they will be more of less the same as last year, after losing Odoro. On the SLU Contributors projections, Hargrove apparently is going to turn into a stud, averaging 13.7 ppg up from 5.9 last season. Thames on the other hand appears to be slotted with the Walk On's Jones and Evans in mop up minutes. I doubt if either happens. Hey, it's something to talk about. Yeah 13 seems pretty high. I see him raising his ppg a bunch but not that much. Right now I would guess a shade under 10. I can see him blossoming in a leadership role and that helping his confidence on the offensive end. But 13.7 is a huge jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, dlarry said: Yeah 13 seems pretty high. I see him raising his ppg a bunch but not that much. Right now I would guess a shade under 10. I can see him blossoming in a leadership role and that helping his confidence on the offensive end. But 13.7 is a huge jump. He can do it if he improves his 3 point shot and raises his minutes played from 19 to 30 a game. But yes, 8 to 10 points a game is my bet because he will not get 30 minutes on the floor, as his position and size will not allow that much time played each game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenswin Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, WVBilliken said: He can do it if he improves his 3 point shot and raises his minutes played from 19 to 30 a game. But yes, 8 to 10 points a game is my bet because he will not get 30 minutes on the floor, as his position and size will not allow that much time played each game. This guy Bartok obviously, knows nothing about our new players. I have seen some practices and would suggest thatMedley and Bruce Z will be solid contributors. Our three euro players have excellent potential and the young man from the Netherlands is big and strong. Once he is back on his feet he really seems to be someone who can also contribute. It really is impossible to predict how all of the new players will contribute at this point but without a doubt they will have a larger impact than zero which is the assumption by this guy VeniceMenace, HoosierPal, Billikenbooster and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, WVBilliken said: He can do it if he improves his 3 point shot and raises his minutes played from 19 to 30 a game. But yes, 8 to 10 points a game is my bet because he will not get 30 minutes on the floor, as his position and size will not allow that much time played each game. If he wants to play more he needs to become a shut down defender. He doesn’t leave the court if he guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Billikenswin said: This guy Bartok obviously, knows nothing about our new players. I have seen some practices and would suggest thatMedley and Bruce Z will be solid contributors. Our three euro players have excellent potential and the young man from the Netherlands is big and strong. Once he is back on his feet he really seems to be someone who can also contribute. It really is impossible to predict how all of the new players will contribute at this point but without a doubt they will have a larger impact than zero which is the assumption by this guy I have heard good reports about Bruce. It sounds like he is further along offensively than many of us thought. The things that scares me about him is where he will be defensively. That scares me about all freshmen, but especially international freshmen. If you want to have me feel like the T-Rank prediction is way off, sign a veteran big that is above average defensively. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 T-Rank basically doesn’t account for any non-top 100 freshman because they’re hard to predict accurately. Just like our beloved Wiz, he runs a statistical model that’s an imperfect science. His stuff right now is more of a starting point than true predictions, and teams with higher numbers of returning players usually are valued higher. RUBillsFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Billikenswin said: This guy Bartok obviously, knows nothing about our new players. I have seen some practices and would suggest thatMedley and Bruce Z will be solid contributors. Our three euro players have excellent potential and the young man from the Netherlands is big and strong. Once he is back on his feet he really seems to be someone who can also contribute. It really is impossible to predict how all of the new players will contribute at this point but without a doubt they will have a larger impact than zero which is the assumption by this guy Is the offense good or the defense bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Are we arguing with computer rankings and analytics now? At least give the computer a chance to defend itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: Are we arguing with computer rankings and analytics now? At least give the computer a chance to defend itself. PEAK off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: Are we arguing with computer rankings and analytics now? At least give the computer a chance to defend itself. I wasn’t. Think it’s quite fair actually based on the number of complete unknowns. All we can do is wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnbj14 said: I wasn’t. Think it’s quite fair actually based on the number of complete unknowns. All we can do is wait and see. I dont think it was directed towards you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnbj14 said: I wasn’t. Think it’s quite fair actually based on the number of complete unknowns. All we can do is wait and see. I was just making a joke. The value of preseason computer rankings of teams with so many new players and roles is unlikely to be overly precise like you said. johnbj14 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Billikenswin blowing positive yet hypothetical smoke. Typical over-expectations from nearby insiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Billikenswin said: This guy Bartok obviously, knows nothing about our new players. I have seen some practices and would suggest thatMedley and Bruce Z will be solid contributors. Our three euro players have excellent potential and the young man from the Netherlands is big and strong. Once he is back on his feet he really seems to be someone who can also contribute. It really is impossible to predict how all of the new players will contribute at this point but without a doubt they will have a larger impact than zero which is the assumption by this guy I was wondering if we will have an upcoming scrimmage? I can’t remember not having one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, DOC said: I was wondering if we will have an upcoming scrimmage? I can’t remember not having one. Did we have one last summer? I remember the year before(?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, wgstl said: Did we have one last summer? I remember the year before(?) Foreign trips allow for earlier practices and thus an open scrimmage. The only other way would be to have an NIL collective set something up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 We’ve had open scrimmages going back to the Majerus days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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