thunderdan Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 What are your thoughts on the Bills, potentially, adding Yuri’s jersey to those hanging at Chaifetz? The school is very selective with players’ numbers and jerseys hanging in the rafters (with only 4 players, I think). Has Yuri done enough to earn this honor? I go back and forth. Quote
thetorch Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Hell No. We have All Americans without jerseys in the rafters. I think we should give out more recognition in this form, but Yuri can get in line. A dozen players more deserving at a minimum. Bizziken, DeSmetBilliken and BC1764 3 Quote
billiken_roy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 not even close to deserving. MB73, Bizziken and BC1764 3 Quote
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Goodwin deserves it before anyone current. Billiken Rich, SLUMedBilliken15, DeSmetBilliken and 4 others 7 Quote
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Gotta be legendary, that includes winning. Quote
slufan13 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Sure as long as guys like Jett, Goodwin, Evans, French, etc get it first Bizziken, Billiken Rich, DeSmetBilliken and 1 other 4 Quote
NoCoBillsFan Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 8 hours ago, thetorch said: Hell No. We have All Americans without jerseys in the rafters. I think we should give out more recognition in this form, but Yuri can get in line. A dozen players more deserving at a minimum. Just curious, what all Americans don’t have their jersey retired? Quote
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, slufan13 said: Sure as long as guys like Jett, Goodwin, Evans, French, etc get it first Jett and Goodwin(among others) should definitely be ahead of Yuri in line, but not French and Evans Quote
Littlebill Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said: Just curious, what all Americans don’t have their jersey retired? The "all-americans" they give to conference POYs. Jordair was HM All-American. Hughes was HMAA as well, but don't think he won CPOY Quote
Littlebill Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: Jett and Goodwin(among others) should definitely be ahead of Yuri in line, but not French and Evans Kwamain too imo. I think Yuri has the resume for the most part. Just no NCAAs - you can't put a modern guy with no NCAAs on a banner. Bonner is all-time leading scorer so he gets a pass Quote
NoCoBillsFan Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 So is the current standard four-year all Americans? I think Jordair should be there (Honorable Mention or not, idc). What if Yuri is named an all-American? It’s not likely but could be possible since he’s already been named a top 5 pg in the country. Quote
thetorch Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, NoCoBillsFan said: Just curious, what all Americans don’t have their jersey retired? I really don't know what the standard is. There doesn't appear to be one. Ray Steiner was an AA and doesn't have his number retired. He was a transfer from MO but does have a degree. Lou Lehman, Jim Mclaughlin, Harold Alcorn, Jimmy Irving, David Burns, Bonner, Claggett, Hughes, & Jett all were HM AAs. Macauley is the only consensus AA, named on all the teams. Boushka, Ferry, & Steiner were all named on at least 1 team but not consensus. Don't know why Bonner has one and not Steiner, except that Bonner is the all time leading scorer and led the nation in rebounding but he was never a conference POY. Claggett, Burns, & Jett were. Yuri will end up leading the nation in a stat. There really is no rhyme or reason. Steiner as a AA and Claggett as a HM, POY and all time leading scorer of a conference have the best case for retired numbers. Quote
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, thetorch said: I really don't know what the standard is. There doesn't appear to be one. Ray Steiner was an AA and doesn't have his number retired. He was a transfer from MO but does have a degree. Lou Lehman, Jim Mclaughlin, Harold Alcorn, Jimmy Irving, David Burns, Bonner, Claggett, Hughes, & Jett all were HM AAs. Macauley is the only consensus AA, named on all the teams. Boushka, Ferry, & Steiner were all named on at least 1 team but not consensus. Don't know why Bonner has one and not Steiner, except that Bonner is the all time leading scorer and led the nation in rebounding but he was never a conference POY. Claggett, Burns, & Jett were. Yuri will end up leading the nation in a stat. There really is no rhyme or reason. Steiner as a AA and Claggett as a HM, POY and all time leading scorer of a conference have the best case for retired numbers. I'm sure if you're borderline, you could donate a bunch of money to get your shirt hung in the rafters. Jamie Swanner made his jersey retirement part of his contract to be an assistant for the Ambush. Quote
ARon Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 While I personally think more highly of guys like Mitchell because of their complete games, I do thinking leading the nation in a stat certainly counts for a lot. That being said I'd also be inclined to think his resume isn't quite there. Quote
Soderball Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 12:09 AM, thunderdan said: What are your thoughts on the Bills, potentially, adding Yuri’s jersey to those hanging at Chaifetz? The school is very selective with players’ numbers and jerseys hanging in the rafters (with only 4 players, I think). Has Yuri done enough to earn this honor? I go back and forth. He has zero tournaments. Zero NCAA appearances. Z e r o. 0. Nada. Zilch. Nothing. Not only do we not retire the number, but his entire career is forgettable. Stats are the worst thing to ever happen to sports. Listen to you guys. Shameful. More worried about stats than about wins. Quote
Soderball Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 10:13 AM, thetorch said: I really don't know what the standard is. There doesn't appear to be one. Ray Steiner was an AA and doesn't have his number retired. He was a transfer from MO but does have a degree. Lou Lehman, Jim Mclaughlin, Harold Alcorn, Jimmy Irving, David Burns, Bonner, Claggett, Hughes, & Jett all were HM AAs. Macauley is the only consensus AA, named on all the teams. Boushka, Ferry, & Steiner were all named on at least 1 team but not consensus. Don't know why Bonner has one and not Steiner, except that Bonner is the all time leading scorer and led the nation in rebounding but he was never a conference POY. Claggett, Burns, & Jett were. Yuri will end up leading the nation in a stat. There really is no rhyme or reason. Steiner as a AA and Claggett as a HM, POY and all time leading scorer of a conference have the best case for retired numbers. Bonner has an NBA championship ring. Do any of those other guys? Ok. Quote
Billiken Rich Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, Soderball said: He has zero tournaments. Zero NCAA appearances. Z e r o. 0. Nada. Zilch. Nothing. Not only do we not retire the number, but his entire career is forgettable. Stats are the worst thing to ever happen to sports. Listen to you guys. Shameful. More worried about stats than about wins. Dude.......you've got issues....... Quote
Soderball Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Billiken Rich said: Dude.......you've got issues....... With one tournament appearance in 8 years I am on the verge of needing to be institutionalized. Quote
Billiken Rich Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, Soderball said: With one tournament appearance in 8 years I am on the verge of needing to be institutionalized. We agree on something..... Littlebill, majerus mojo, DOC and 1 other 4 Quote
Soderball Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: We agree on something..... No, you and I don't agree on anything. I'm very happy for that. Bills71 1 Quote
BC1764 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Anyone entertaining the thought of his number being hung on the rafters is off their rocker. Quote
stmdragons Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Will be very interesting to see who this board’s new whipping boy is next season now that Yuri is gone. Quote
TheChosenOne Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, stmdragons said: Will be very interesting to see who this board’s new whipping boy is next season now that Yuri is gone. I personally didn’t like to overly rip Yuri since I blame a lot of the things that frustrated me on the coaching staff for not building a more complete roster around him and playing a style that relied on more player and ball movement vs. Yuri having to create everything for the offense. Yuri is a heck of a player and it is a shame as a fan I just felt ready for him to move on. But, so much of that was not having other play makers on the roster. I wish things played out differently for him at SLU with regards to team success, but I enjoyed watching him (never seen a kid pass the ball like him, really incredible) and am glad he decided to stay home and be a Billiken. Good luck to the young man, but I’m not for hanging his jersey. billikenbill and Hook97 2 Quote
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