Recruiting - 2025

[Pistol]

1 hour ago, Coach314 said:

Mizzou was his #1 choice even before he left Vashon

Yeah, that's always the sense that I got, too.

Still wish he wouldn't have left town, though.

[Pistol]

 

[Dr. Holly Hills]

I just don’t see in what world we will ever get these 4️, heavily recruited HS  guys. Prior to NIL, there was a chance (albeit extremely slim), but now we can’t compete with NIL.

[meerkat]

Heard a rumor he had a vomit issue during a night at Humphreys on his visit.

[gobillsgo]

10 hours ago, Pistol said:

 

Tool

[thetorch]

On 10/30/2024 at 12:02 AM, Dr. Holly Hills said:

I just don’t see in what world we will ever get these 4️, heavily recruited HS  guys. Prior to NIL, there was a chance (albeit extremely slim), but now we can’t compete with NIL.

If its only about the college money then yes.

If a 4 star wants to showcase his skills at a high major without competing for time with highly paid transfers that his coach recruited over him a few months after he signs than SLU becomes the right choice every time.

[TheChosenOne]

One of the other things folks on this board have noted and echoed by Coach Schertz is that the truly elite programs are likely going to continue to target transfers. Sure, they will still be involved with the one and done type prep superstars, but beyond that they are more likely to target transfers who have played at the college level and are more of a known commodity over prep recruits down the rankings. Schertz has identified that as the current market inefficiency, so expect to see us heavily involved in prep recruiting. Plus, it seems clear that Schertz has a system and he wants to get guys in the program to learn that system and develop over their career vs. constantly chasing the hottest transfers. As @thetorch laid out above, Schertz has a compelling sell for prep recruits especially when you layer on the x's and o's and development pitch. Obviously meeting our expectations this winter goes a long way in helping to strengthen that pitch! Ok, today is the day that I find myself pumped for the season, perfect timing!

[shempie]

https://x.com/AdamZagoria/status/1861818797943873935

Wasn't sure where to post this. If my math is correct...class of 2026.

[Crewsorlose]

Can someone tell me why Scherz can't look at Zyree Collins and see his next Isaiah Swope? Undersized, not quite the shooter that Swope is (but way better than Yuri) but a better passer. Undersized but just a pure baller. Hasn't signed yet. I don't get it. 

[3star_recruit]

14 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said:

Can someone tell me why Scherz can't look at Zyree Collins and see his next Isaiah Swope? Undersized, not quite the shooter that Swope is (but way better than Yuri) but a better passer. Undersized but just a pure baller. Hasn't signed yet. I don't get it. 

I think all SLU-level mid-majors are following similar logic.  You can always get a proven 6-0 combo guard through the portal.  Why roll the dice on that player as a freshman?  How does he get on the floor? McCottry's size and disruptiveness on defense are the primary reasons he's seeing PT right now.  

If the portal didn't exist, I have no doubt that Zyree would be a priority right now.  Smallish players have been the high school players most impacted by the new college basketball landscape.

[wgstl]

33 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said:

Can someone tell me why Scherz can't look at Zyree Collins and see his next Isaiah Swope? Undersized, not quite the shooter that Swope is (but way better than Yuri) but a better passer. Undersized but just a pure baller. Hasn't signed yet. I don't get it. 

Based on who he has been recruiting, size seems to be important to JS

[Aquinas]

If all players return, plus the 3 signers, aren't  we full at 13?

[crymdg2]

1 hour ago, Aquinas said:

If all players return, plus the 3 signers, aren't  we full at 13?

Scholarship number has increased to 15.

[Aquinas]

23 minutes ago, crymdg2 said:

Scholarship number has increased to 15.

Thanks, I wasn't sure that was a done deal.

[Pistol]

6 hours ago, shempie said:

https://x.com/AdamZagoria/status/1861818797943873935

Wasn't sure where to post this. If my math is correct...class of 2026.

He got an offer last September from Ford's staff. I'll update his bio and post it in the 2026 thread when I have a chance.

[Crewsorlose]

On 11/27/2024 at 12:36 PM, wgstl said:

Based on who he has been recruiting, size seems to be important to JS

I see that too. I just don't know who plays guard next year or handles the ball against pressure. Dotzler, sure. But Johnson and Swope will be gone, and one might want some McCottry insurance. I'm sure at least two players transfer out, and while the obvious answer is a transfer guard, I'd think the idea of developing Zyree as a potential starting guard would have some appeal. 

[3star_recruit]

1 hour ago, Crewsorlose said:

I see that too. I just don't know who plays guard next year or handles the ball against pressure. Dotzler, sure. But Johnson and Swope will be gone, and one might want some McCottry insurance. I'm sure at least two players transfer out, and while the obvious answer is a transfer guard, I'd think the idea of developing Zyree as a potential starting guard would have some appeal. 

You replace Swope with an experienced guard from the portal.  There are small high scoring guards out there every year who transfer from low major to mid major.  The top mid-majors aren't recruiting them of high school anymore. 

That's how Swope ended up at Indiana State - Coach Schertz pulled him from Southern Indiana.

[willie]

43 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

You replace Swope with an experienced guard from the portal.  There are small high scoring guards out there every year who transfer from low major to mid major.  The top mid-majors aren't recruiting them of high school anymore. 

That's how Swope ended up at Indiana State - Coach Schertz pulled him from Southern Indiana.

You have been very consistent in how you believe players will move up and down the portal  And you may be right . But I would hope that we have enough money and coaches gravitas’s to keep and develop a 4 year player . Might be a pipe dream but I think there are more Thames’s out there . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Old guy]

@willie The issue is and will continue being the availability of money for NILS. I firmly believe that the economy is heading towards rough times, and the US Dollar will stop being the reference currency. I may be wrong, but should I be right the money for NILs, and for many other things, will essentially stop being available.

[3star_recruit]

11 minutes ago, willie said:

You have been very consistent in how you believe players will move up and down the portal  And you may be right . But I would hope that we have enough money and coaches gravitas’s to keep and develop a 4 year player . Might be a pipe dream but I think there are more Thames’s out there . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 6'6/6'7 guys with guard skills are still being recruited out of high school.  That's why McCottrey is here.  It's the smallish combo guards that are being neglected.  That size player has to be top 150 to grab the attention of a high mid-major.

[willie]

2 hours ago, 3star_recruit said:

The 6'6/6'7 guys with guard skills are still being recruited out of high school.  That's why McCottrey is here.  It's the smallish combo guards that are being neglected.  That size player has to be top 150 to grab the attention of a high mid-major.

Here again you maybe right. Things change. Dependence on the portal may peak. Take our team. How many of our transfers are/ will contribute. Don’t know what they cost but maybe that’s not the best use of our resources. My point is maybe the best value is the high school recruit. Maybe we are making a mistake on Yuri’s brother. 
 

 

 

[thatskablamo]

On 11/30/2024 at 8:06 PM, 3star_recruit said:

You replace Swope with an experienced guard from the portal.  There are small high scoring guards out there every year who transfer from low major to mid major.  The top mid-majors aren't recruiting them of high school anymore. 

That's how Swope ended up at Indiana State - Coach Schertz pulled him from Southern Indiana.

The ol‘ Swoop n’ Swope. 

[crymdg2]

 

[Lord Elrond]

3 hours ago, crymdg2 said:

 

I need someone more intelligent than me to explain this to me. If this guy plays in a professional league in Italy for money, why would he be eligible to play in the NCAA?  Yes, NIL exists, but it is supposed to be only for Name, Image, and Likeness.  Because he’s been paid as a pro, he should be ineligible.

[Pistol]

Achille Lonati - G, 6-5, 180 - Milan, Italy (Olimpia Milano)
Offers: Saint Louis, VCU, St. Bonaventure, Xavier, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Washington State, UC-Santa Barbara.

Interest: Florida Atlantic.

Latest News: Lonati said he has an offer from SLU, among others. (2/23/25)

Scouting Report: Lonati is a skilled, versatile, two-way combo guard with good size. He is an excellent shooter with range off the catch. He's tough to guard with the ball in his hands, gets to the rim, and finishes. He rebounds his position well. He has a confident, crafty, fluid style and competitive approach.