slu72 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, mrjoelabs said: This doesn't sound good on Gibson... We need all hands on Deck for sure now. Yeah, I hate foot injuries. A doctor told me one time that foot bones are the most fragile and take time to heal. Maybe Oldguy can back this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, slu72 said: Yeah, I hate foot injuries. A doctor told me one time that foot bones are the most fragile and take time to heal. Maybe Oldguy can back this up. Small bones with a lot of weight on it. Seems right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/15/2019 at 10:05 PM, Clock_Tower said: If Fred has mono, wouldn't coach just say that? Don't know that he can. Could be a HIPAA violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Didn't want to start a new thread but looks like Ford might have taken some kids out for a shopping spree? Know it has been said but I continue to be impressed with how he interacts with the community outside the court. RUBillsFan, SLUMedBilliken15, TheChosenOne and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Bilzz said: Don't know that he can. Could be a HIPAA violation. not sure if HIPAA applies to coach ford, but i am sure that fred's permission should be asked and given out of courtesy to fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Bills_06 said: Didn't want to start a new thread but looks like Ford might have taken some kids out for a shopping spree? Know it has been said but I continue to be impressed with how he interacts with the community outside the court. Not sure if I'm reading too much into this, but 3 observations from these photos: Unless I'm missing it, I see the whole team except for Jimerson. Probably not a good sign if his foot doesn't allow him to walk around a store, but maybe he just missed it for other reasons. French is in the photos, so he is able to walk around the store at least. Thatch is int he photos and in other tweets with photos he's eating a meal on campus with the kids. I can't imagine they'd let him around kids if he had some kind of contagious disease. This makes me skeptical about guesses that he has mono. I know mono is transferred via saliva, but what if a kid grabbed his fork or cup by mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I do not believe Mono is not contagious the entire time you are recovering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Clock_Tower said: I do not believe Mono is not contagious the entire time you are recovering My quick google search could certainly be wrong, but I read that it can actually be contagious for up to 3 months after your symptoms go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Not sure if I'm reading too much into this, but 3 observations from these photos: Unless I'm missing it, I see the whole team except for Jimerson. Probably not a good sign if his foot doesn't allow him to walk around a store, but maybe he just missed it for other reasons. French is in the photos, so he is able to walk around the store at least. Thatch is int he photos and in other tweets with photos he's eating a meal on campus with the kids. I can't imagine they'd let him around kids if he had some kind of contagious disease. This makes me skeptical about guesses that he has mono. I know mono is transferred via saliva, but what if a kid grabbed his fork or cup by mistake. Re Jimerson: he was walking around chaifetz in the boot. I think the more logical explanation for him not going is just that why have him go if he’s deal with ANY foot discomfort? Even if it’s super minor what’s the point of having him walk around if he doesn’t have to. Sh!t the players get golf cart rides even when healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmart23 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Not sure if I'm reading too much into this, but 3 observations from these photos: Unless I'm missing it, I see the whole team except for Jimerson. Probably not a good sign if his foot doesn't allow him to walk around a store, but maybe he just missed it for other reasons. French is in the photos, so he is able to walk around the store at least. Thatch is int he photos and in other tweets with photos he's eating a meal on campus with the kids. I can't imagine they'd let him around kids if he had some kind of contagious disease. This makes me skeptical about guesses that he has mono. I know mono is transferred via saliva, but what if a kid grabbed his fork or cup by mistake. He also could have just had an appointment with a Doctor, training session to work on said injury, or something else related. It doesn't mean he was unable to be there because of how bad the injury is. We'll find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Not sure if I'm reading too much into this, but 3 observations from these photos: Unless I'm missing it, I see the whole team except for Jimerson. Probably not a good sign if his foot doesn't allow him to walk around a store, but maybe he just missed it for other reasons. French is in the photos, so he is able to walk around the store at least. Thatch is int he photos and in other tweets with photos he's eating a meal on campus with the kids. I can't imagine they'd let him around kids if he had some kind of contagious disease. This makes me skeptical about guesses that he has mono. I know mono is transferred via saliva, but what if a kid grabbed his fork or cup by mistake. #3: Id assume this may mean no direct illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Travis Ford was guarded today regarding Fred Thatch’s status but said “He feels great. We’re waiting on some test results.” He said those were expected to take 10 days to two weeks. His availability remains uncertain. per stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, wgstl said: He said those were expected to take 10 days to two weeks WTF? What kind of tests take two weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: WTF? What kind of tests take two weeks? The ones that have to be sent off to a special lab located in some other part of the country. This is not uncommon given that there are only one or two labs that do certain tests. A friend of mine wife had cancer and one of the tests they did had to go to the only lab that could run it the data in NC and it took at least 2 weeks to get the results back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Get well, Fred. We've suddenly become the walking wounded. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Wow. I'm glad I don't often interface with the US healthcare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Let's all hope he is cleared in 2 weeks or less. If Fred hasn't been practicing, then it will take a month or so before he is ready for more than spot duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The secrecy with Thatch has me concerned for his long term health. If With the way social media works I’m shocked nothing more has leaked. If people or media members do know more and I would bet a lot of them do they are keeping quite. What ever it is I’m glad they are protecting his privacy and I hope for a full recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Wow. I'm glad I don't often interface with the US healthcare system. Hopefully this continues for you and yours. Billiken Rich and BilliKat like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: My quick google search could certainly be wrong, but I read that it can actually be contagious for up to 3 months after your symptoms go away. My bad. Believe you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, dlarry said: The secrecy with Thatch has me concerned for his long term health. If With the way social media works I’m shocked nothing more has leaked. If people or media members do know more and I would bet a lot of them do they are keeping quite. What ever it is I’m glad they are protecting his privacy and I hope for a full recovery. Not much can leak when they don't know what is causing the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hold it now, when you talk openly about tests that take 2 weeks to get results on, you are talking about highly specialized tests that are NOT frequently done. This is particularly true if they had to send the samples away to a specialized testing center. Understand this much, whoever is diagnosing Thatch (it could be a group of Drs, not a single one) has decided that there is something or the other that is uncommon, fits the findings and the locally obtained lab tests, and HAS TO BE RULED OUT before they can continue sleuthing for the cause of his disorder. This is definitely NOT GOOD. All common or not extremely rare disorders can be tested for in St. Louis, period. What they are considering as a possible diagnosis is most likely not common and will most likely not be disclosed publicly. Among other things this means he does NOT HAVE MONO, which can be diagnosed at any hospital or urgent care center. St. Louis has one of the world top cancer research centers at Wash U. which is capable of all kinds of sophisticated diagnostic tests, including FULL genome sequencing (not the kind you are likely to get if you have the need for something like that). I believe Thatch is NOT LIKELY to have cancer or an immune problem either all of which can be diagnosed locally What his disorder may be is beyond me and will stay beyond me unless his records are opened, which has the chance of a snowball in hell of happening. So, there you are, long and short of this is that we, the MBMs, with the information available to us, cannot even start guessing what it is that he has. Period. Pray for Fred Thatch and his family that whatever it is he has is treatable and curable. That is all I can say at this time. 18 hours ago, slu72 said: Yeah, I hate foot injuries. A doctor told me one time that foot bones are the most fragile and take time to heal. Maybe Oldguy can back this up. Onto Jimerson. During the Maryville game he was walking with a slight limp, no boot or assists (crutches, etc...). I think the likelihood of a fracture is low in this case, unless it is a green stick fracture (not a through and through one), or something like a toe fracture that has to be taped (or pinned if necessary), both of these are generally minor, although you need rest and time to heal lest they become a lot worse than they are. He may on the other hand have a soft tissue injury involving tendons or muscular strain. Sometimes these are harder to resolve than actual fractures, it all depends on whether or not the problem is acute or has been going on for some time. If he had some pain and discomfort and kept on playing on regardless, we could have a bit of an issue here. Again, not much is known about his problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, Old guy said: Hold it now, when you talk openly about tests that take 2 weeks to get results on, you are talking about highly specialized tests that are NOT frequently done. This is particularly true if they had to send the samples away to a specialized testing center. Understand this much, whoever is diagnosing Thatch (it could be a group of Drs, not a single one) has decided that there is something or the other that is uncommon, fits the findings and the locally obtained lab tests, and HAS TO BE RULED OUT before they can continue sleuthing for the cause of his disorder. This is definitely NOT GOOD. All common or not extremely rare disorders can be tested for in St. Louis, period. What they are considering as a possible diagnosis is most likely not common and will most likely not be disclosed publicly. Among other things this means he does NOT HAVE MONO, which can be diagnosed at any hospital or urgent care center. St. Louis has one of the world top cancer research centers at Wash U. which is capable of all kinds of sophisticated diagnostic tests, including FULL genome sequencing (not the kind you are likely to get if you have the need for something like that). I believe Thatch is NOT LIKELY to have cancer or an immune problem either all of which can be diagnosed locally What his disorder may be is beyond me and will stay beyond me unless his records are opened, which has the chance of a snowball in hell of happening. So, there you are, long and short of this is that we, the MBMs, with the information available to us, cannot even start guessing what it is that he has. Period. Pray for Fred Thatch and his family that whatever it is he has is treatable and curable. That is all I can say at this time. Onto Jimerson. During the Maryville game he was walking with a slight limp, no boot or assists (crutches, etc...). I think the likelihood of a fracture is low in this case, unless it is a green stick fracture (not a through and through one), or something like a toe fracture that has to be taped (or pinned if necessary), both of these are generally minor, although you need rest and time to heal lest they become a lot worse than they are. He may on the other hand have a soft tissue injury involving tendons or muscular strain. Sometimes these are harder to resolve than actual fractures, it all depends on whether or not the problem is acute or has been going on for some time. If he had some pain and discomfort and kept on playing on regardless, we could have a bit of an issue here. Again, not much is known about his problem. Jimerson was in a boot during the Maryville game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Old guy said: Hold it now, when you talk openly about tests that take 2 weeks to get results on, you are talking about highly specialized tests that are NOT frequently done. This is particularly true if they had to send the samples away to a specialized testing center. Understand this much, whoever is diagnosing Thatch (it could be a group of Drs, not a single one) has decided that there is something or the other that is uncommon, fits the findings and the locally obtained lab tests, and HAS TO BE RULED OUT before they can continue sleuthing for the cause of his disorder. This is definitely NOT GOOD. All common or not extremely rare disorders can be tested for in St. Louis, period. What they are considering as a possible diagnosis is most likely not common and will most likely not be disclosed publicly. Among other things this means he does NOT HAVE MONO, which can be diagnosed at any hospital or urgent care center. St. Louis has one of the world top cancer research centers at Wash U. which is capable of all kinds of sophisticated diagnostic tests, including FULL genome sequencing (not the kind you are likely to get if you have the need for something like that). I believe Thatch is NOT LIKELY to have cancer or an immune problem either all of which can be diagnosed locally What his disorder may be is beyond me and will stay beyond me unless his records are opened, which has the chance of a snowball in hell of happening. So, there you are, long and short of this is that we, the MBMs, with the information available to us, cannot even start guessing what it is that he has. Period. Pray for Fred Thatch and his family that whatever it is he has is treatable and curable. That is all I can say at this time. Onto Jimerson. During the Maryville game he was walking with a slight limp, no boot or assists (crutches, etc...). I think the likelihood of a fracture is low in this case, unless it is a green stick fracture (not a through and through one), or something like a toe fracture that has to be taped (or pinned if necessary), both of these are generally minor, although you need rest and time to heal lest they become a lot worse than they are. He may on the other hand have a soft tissue injury involving tendons or muscular strain. Sometimes these are harder to resolve than actual fractures, it all depends on whether or not the problem is acute or has been going on for some time. If he had some pain and discomfort and kept on playing on regardless, we could have a bit of an issue here. Again, not much is known about his problem. The over the top speculation on thatch is starting to get uncomfortable. RUBillsFan, rgbilliken and BuiltFordBills like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, brianstl said: Not much can leak when they don't know what is causing the issue. That’s true. i guess I’m just surprised we haven’t heard more rumors and speculation. which is good. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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