bonwich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: SLU can pay for their defense from what I was told. A booster can not Yeah, but SLU paying for their defense while simultaneously still subject to a Title IX inquiry seems a bit screwy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: SLU can pay for their defense from what I was told. A booster can not So someone just writes a check to SLU as a donation. SLU then cuts the check to the lawyers. Problem seemingly solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, bonwich said: Yeah, but SLU paying for their defense while simultaneously still subject to a Title IX inquiry seems a bit screwy. If it comes from the AD, and not the university? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: So someone just writes a check to SLU as a donation. SLU then cuts the check to the lawyers. Problem seemingly solved. Don't forget that whoever cuts the check to SLU get to claim it as a charitable deduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Attorneys like Rosenbloom often take high profile cases like this without charge. I don't like the term pro bono, because that implies the person cannot afford representation. In these situations, the attorney handles the case for free just for the exposure. By keeping his name out there as the go to guy for criminal matters, which he his, Rosenbloom more than makes up for it on other clients he gets during the year due to being known as the guy to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Attorneys like Rosenbloom often take high profile cases like this without charge. I don't like the term pro bono, because that implies the person cannot afford representation. In these situations, the attorney handles the case for free just for the exposure. By keeping his name out there as the go to guy for criminal matters, which he his, Rosenbloom more than makes up for it on other clients he gets during the year due to being known as the guy to call. Even if Rosenblum is getting paid by someone, I would be very surprised if he would take money from SLU or anyone associated with SLU while representing multiple clients being investigated by SLU. That would be highly out of the ordinary for any criminal defense attorney, and a possible ethical violation for the atty, even setting aside NCAA rules and Title IX statutory concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, kshoe said: I have no idea how someone can read the news of the past 24 hours and think that the likelihood of a happy ending (if happy ending is defined as basketball players being able to play) is getting lower. Don't forget, less than 24 hours ago people thought there were gong to be criminal charges and if not that the players would surely be looking at 1 year suspensions. Today, a 1 yr suspension seems quite extreme and the possibility exists that it's far less than that. Nobody who was paying attention thought there would actually be criminal charges. The problem was a lot of people thought no criminal charges would or should = no consequences period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 And why is this a high profile case? These kids are nothing in terms of a high profile case like the OJ murder case, which was a national figure and had reams of support behind him. Defending OJ was a true high profile case, these kids have not even been arrested and are not waiting trial, not yet anyways. And being accused of raping some girls and taping porno is far from being in the same league as a high profile case. The world and the nation do not revolve around SLU's basketball team, or its demise. Therefore how and why did these guys get into this case which is not yet a case? It certainly is not a high profile case either, since it is not even a case. How did they get in? Anyone really thinks they did it because of their profound sympathy for people in situations like this? By the posts I have been reading, I think Bonwich has a good deal of doubts that may be similar in some ways to my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Bob Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I do not have any facts on this case yet. However, has no one thought about the fact that current Chairman or our Board of Trustees at SLU is the former managing partner of one of the largest law firms in town. He is also a big supporter both financially and vocally of Billikens athletics. I am quite sure that he knows the two lawyers involved and I would not be shocked if he did not call tham as a friend, and create or call in an IOU. BTW, the Chairman is another former poster on this board who was driven away before he attained that position. You lost a lot of inside Information when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 OK, that kind of linkage makes sense and provides a plausible reason why these two guys may have appeared into the scene all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, Old guy said: And why is this a high profile case? it is my opinion that there is no higher profile known by the general public than the slu's men's basketball team and the coach. i think there is a better chance that a random person off the street knows who the name of kwamain mitchell or kevin lisch or one of our current players than they do the president of saint louis university (now that biondi has retired anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 You are entitled to your opinion Roy, but SLU is small fry in terms of the whole country. Regardless the argument of a high profile case appears to be moot. There is a plausible connection within SLU that may account for the appearance of the high profile lawyers in the scene, as explained by Billiken Bob. The issue may not be a matter of this being a high profile case, which it is not, but a matter of a personal favor to a friend which is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Old guy said: You are entitled to your opinion Roy, but SLU is small fry in terms of the whole country. Regardless the argument of a high profile case appears to be moot. There is a plausible connection within SLU that may account for the appearance of the high profile lawyers in the scene, as explained by Billiken Bob. The issue may not be a matter of this being a high profile case, which it is not, but a matter of a personal favor to a friend which is very important. What's the whole country got to do with it? It most certainly is a high profile case in St Louis. That's not even debatable. All of the media outlets are covering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Geldmacher is right. There's no mystery why Rosenblum would take a case like this, especially since he already took a similar one for Lindenwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, hsmith19 said: Geldmacher is right. There's no mystery why Rosenblum would take a case like this, especially since he already took a similar one for Lindenwood. Exactly. I always heard his name as the guy to get in something like this situation. Look how his name being associated with this particular incident has change peoples opinions on the outcome. It only serves to solidify him as the guy to call if you can afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hopefully Betsy Devo’s new title 9 comes soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: This is true. I think the more correct way to put it is that with the rise of instant information, everyone is rushing to be the first report on a story and take liberties with the term "credible source" That’s what I was going for. Aka Fake News haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 5 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: Can anyone provide cliff notes of Rogers and Rosenblum's reputation in the law community? Rosenblum is the Robert Kardashian of St. Louis (presumably minus the dingbat kids). He got Rams linebacker Leonard Little off with only probation after he got drunk and KILLED a woman with his car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 41 minutes ago, LindellWest said: Exactly. I always heard his name as the guy to get in something like this situation. Look how his name being associated with this particular incident has change peoples opinions on the outcome. It only serves to solidify him as the guy to call if you can afford him. When i heard he was involved i stopped checking this thread incessantly... They will all be suspended for the Seattle game for violation of team rules.... See you all in NYC with a full squad SLU_Nick likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 4 hours ago, GBL_Bills said: Don't be hasty. As much as I'm happy to see the lawyers proclaim innocence in the PD article, that's the lawyers' job. The "inconsistency" in the stories could be something incredibly minor and largely irrelevant to the actual case, which the lawyers are taking advantage of to cast doubt on their story to the public. Indeed, lawyers talk similar to that being spouted in the national scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Guess Roby is not one of the accused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, ARon said: Rosenblum is the Robert Kardashian of St. Louis (presumably minus the dingbat kids). Not a very good comparison. Robert Kardashian wasn't practicing as an attorney for quite some time until OJ Simpson got arrested. He activated his law license to participate in OJ's defense. Robert Shapiro, Johnnie Cochran were the primary lawyers for OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Old guy said: And why is this a high profile case? These kids are nothing in terms of a high profile case like the OJ murder case, which was a national figure and had reams of support behind him. Defending OJ was a true high profile case, these kids have not even been arrested and are not waiting trial, not yet anyways. And being accused of raping some girls and taping porno is far from being in the same league as a high profile case. The world and the nation do not revolve around SLU's basketball team, or its demise. Therefore how and why did these guys get into this case which is not yet a case? It certainly is not a high profile case either, since it is not even a case. How did they get in? Anyone really thinks they did it because of their profound sympathy for people in situations like this? By the posts I have been reading, I think Bonwich has a good deal of doubts that may be similar in some ways to my own. High profile only in that it gets his name in the local news which is all he’s looking for. Just by the fact that he took their cases, this board has turned into an advertisement for him. How many guys on this site, many of whom have some money, are talking about him being the guy to use for an important criminal matter. He’s getting exactly what he wants and deserves for that matter out of helping out our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I guess first practice we will see what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Saw someone comment on the post dispatch story that there's a board of aldermen meeting tomorrow. If that's true, will we potentially see a resolution before the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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