Old guy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 OK, so now we have a mystey angel who is paying the high priced attorneys to represent our players, not the University. This gets interesting. Also the Rogers who is representing only one of the 4 players said the investigation is not criminal, and this may indeed be the case for his client (the cameraman?). Rosenbloom has not said the investigation is non criminal and he is defending the other three players. It is important to know who the mystery party is that is paying for these attorneys. Is this really a trick to steal these players from us, all the way from the girls involved? Kshoe it all smoke and mirrors, if it is really not a big thing why do they need the big high priced attorneys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, bonwich said: "The U," no. But I seriously doubt any of those guys would have known to hire Rosenblum, and I also seriously doubt the "pro bono" narrative. I have my own theory as to who brought Rosenblum in, but I don't know enough about NCAA regs on something like this to know if my theory is plausible. FWIW Rosenblum also recently represented 2 Lindenwood basketball players accused of rape. I'm not sure anyone would accuse Lindenwood of paying for an athlete's legal representation. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/no-rape-charge-for-two-former-lindenwood-university-basketball-players/article_3ddfd713-676d-5dbe-b5e5-1fdd28b02001.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsidejoe Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Old guy said: OK, so now we have a mystey angel who is paying the high priced attorneys to represent our players, not the University. This gets interesting. Also the Rogers who is representing only one of the 4 players said the investigation is not criminal, and this may indeed be the case for his client (the cameraman?). Rosenbloom has not said the investigation is non criminal and he is defending the other three players. It is important to know who the mystery party is that is paying for these attorneys. Is this really a trick to steal these players from us, all the way from the girls involved? Kshoe it all smoke and mirrors, if it is really not a big thing why do they need the big high priced attorneys? Old Guy, you need to get back to your suspense novels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Can’t high priced attorneys work pro bono..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Are they? Have they said so publicly? High priced attorneys and low priced attorneys will do whatever they wish to do anytime they wish to do it. Are they doing it in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Are we sure none of the families involved are well to do? No because we don't know who the players are. Lets not jump to conclusions here. (Unless it's Bonwich then it's ok) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Even a middle-class family might pony up $ to defend their son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilkowsky Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Are we sure none of the families involved are well to do? No because we don't know who the players are. Lets not jump to conclusions here. (Unless it's Bonwich then it's ok) So no one knows who the players are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Tilkowsky said: So no one knows who the players are? Not for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, juniorbill76 said: Even a middle-class family might pony up $ to defend their son. I'd dip into the the 401K and other savings for that....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, juniorbill76 said: Even a middle-class family might pony up $ to defend their son. Especially if future careers are at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It is absolutely not out of the realm of possibility that an attorney such as Rosenblum or Rogers might take this case pro bono. It is a relatively high profile case - they've already gotten their names in the paper over it (free advertising). Further, all it takes is one of these guys to make it to the NBA for it to pay off for them down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: It is absolutely not out of the realm of possibility that an attorney such as Rosenblum or Rogers might take this case pro bono. It is a relatively high profile case - they've already gotten their names in the paper over it (free advertising). Further, all it takes is one of these guys to make it to the NBA for it to pay off for them down the road. The fact he did a similar case for Lindenwood players within the last year should ease some of the concerns about how he is getting paid. And this won't even be a criminal case like that one was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: It is absolutely not out of the realm of possibility that an attorney such as Rosenblum or Rogers might take this case pro bono. It is a relatively high profile case - they've already gotten their names in the paper over it (free advertising). Further, all it takes is one of these guys to make it to the NBA for it to pay off for them down the road. It could, also, be that they are tired of seeing kids get screwed by the kangaroo court process that occurs at universities in many of these types of cases. TheChosenOne likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Or maybe they're both MBMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 If that was the case cease and desist letters would've already been received by half the members..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Didn't Rogers represent the four SLU students in 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, NH said: Didn't Rogers represent the four SLU students in 2010? Rogers was Mitchell's attorney on the criminal side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'm not sure the point of the Lindenwood reference in regard to Rosenblum's fees. I do know that he's had other high profile cases for which he was most certainly paid. If anyone knows for a fact or at least has strong evidence that he (or Rogers) has done work for free or for only a nominal service charge, please say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, NH said: Didn't Rogers represent the four SLU students in 2010? Either he or someone else who was a partner of Rosenblum. The difference here may be that in 2010, the attorney may have just represented them when criminal charges were possible. The P-D article suggests that Rogers and Rosenblum may be involved in the Title IX investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, brianstl said: Rogers was Mitchell's attorney on the criminal side. 1 minute ago, DeSmetBilliken said: Either he or someone else who was a partner of Rosenblum. The difference here may be that in 2010, the attorney may have just represented them when criminal charges were possible. The P-D article suggests that Rogers and Rosenblum may be involved in the Title IX investigation. Got it, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I heard Cook is paying the attorneys as a way to make up for 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, bonwich said: I'm not sure the point of the Lindenwood reference in regard to Rosenblum's fees. I do know that he's had other high profile cases for which he was most certainly paid. If anyone knows for a fact or at least has strong evidence that he (or Rogers) has done work for free or for only a nominal service charge, please say so. The point from my perspective is that people have insinuated that our players couldn't possibly afford him so where did the funds come from? The obvious implication being that SLU somehow gave them cash for this or has already paid the players cash. The comparison of him representing Lindenwood players is that nobody in their right mind would suggest Lindenwood players were paid under the table by LU. So either those players found the money themselves, he isn't as expensive as people assume, or he does some work pro bono or at a significant discount. Either way, it wasn't players being paid cash to then pay their legal fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, kshoe said: The point from my perspective is that people have insinuated that our players couldn't possibly afford him so where did the funds come from? The obvious implication being that SLU somehow gave them cash for this or has already paid the players cash. The comparison of him representing Lindenwood players is that nobody in their right mind would suggest Lindenwood players were paid under the table by LU. So either those players found the money themselves, he isn't as expensive as people assume, or he does some work pro bono or at a significant discount. Either way, it wasn't players being paid cash to then pay their legal fees. SLU can pay for their defense from what I was told. A booster can not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, kshoe said: The point from my perspective is that people have insinuated that our players couldn't possibly afford him so where did the funds come from? The obvious implication being that SLU somehow gave them cash for this or has already paid the players cash. The comparison of him representing Lindenwood players is that nobody in their right mind would suggest Lindenwood players were paid under the table by LU. So either those players found the money themselves, he isn't as expensive as people assume, or he does some work pro bono or at a significant discount. Either way, it wasn't players being paid cash to then pay their legal fees. Fair enough, but hence my initial comment about NCAA regs. Is it possible in either case that someone else (not the schools) pays the legal fees? It seems to me that even in the case of the attorney working pro bono that it's the equivalent of someone else paying the legal fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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