Box and Won Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Some part of me is excited that SLU is trying to be a big time program because these guys have some of the better attorneys they could. Does that make me a bad person? I got tingly when I read it. NextYearBill likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Regardless of the outcome of the investigation and the legal representation the players have, if the assumed circumstances is actually what happened, I sort of feel like the players involved should receive some type of discipline (however minor) for just being stupid. A "violation of team rules" type of thing. Then again, if the names aren't publicly leaked and that discipline alone would out them as the accused, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The article is very encouraging but keep in mind these are very good defense attorneys and are doing what they are paid to do, very well I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The tweet that named the players also said that it was 6 players. This seems to pretty definitively refute that comment so it's starting to appear (stressing the word appear) that there are some inconsistencies in some stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Rosenblum????..... Alright so lets talk about who is going to NYC to watch our full squad compete against VaTech BillsCPA, Westy03 and SLU_Nick like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Can anyone provide cliff notes of Rogers and Rosenblum's reputation in the law community? Probably all you need to know is that Rosenblum is Ezekiel Elliott's attorney. https://sports.yahoo.com/elliott-lawyers-nfl-more-concerned-155122699.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, NextYearBill said: Rosenblum????..... Alright so lets talk about who is going to NYC to watch our full squad compete against VaTech Honestly, the fact that these guys have the cash to retain such impressive legal counsel and the FBI is currently conducting a probe into NCAA basketball corruption has me about as worried as the sexual assault allegations now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Can anyone provide cliff notes of Rogers and Rosenblum's reputation in the law community? no suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: Rosenblum????..... Alright so lets talk about who is going to NYC to watch our full squad compete against VaTech I'm there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Oh, no. Just looked it up. Rosenblum is a Mi$$ou grad. Graduated in 1979. Looks like Cuonzo has the fix in to get all of our guys. I heard he's making calls to see how strong their commitment is to SLU now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, RUBillsFan said: Honestly, the fact that these guys have the cash to retain such impressive legal counsel and the FBI is currently conducting a probe into NCAA basketball corruption has me about as worried as the sexual assault allegations now. pro bono baby. high profile tax write off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Regardless of the outcome of the investigation and the legal representation the players have, if the assumed circumstances is actually what happened, I sort of feel like the players involved should receive some type of discipline (however minor) for just being stupid. A "violation of team rules" type of thing. Then again, if the names aren't publicly leaked and that discipline alone would out them as the accused, maybe not. This seems like a great point. Imagine you'd want to do everything possible to limit linking these guy's names to the allegations, if they are proven to be unfounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 who's going to the butler game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 losses in the non-conference maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Can anyone provide cliff notes of Rogers and Rosenblum's reputation in the law community? Rosenblum's the most high profile criminal lawyer in St. Louis. Rogers is solid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615Billiken Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, BillIkenFan_Dan said: who's going to the butler game LOL. You're going to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: This seems like a great point. Imagine you'd want to do everything possible to limit linking these guy's names to the allegations, if they are proven to be unfounded. To this point, I have heard that the reputation has followed Mitchell even overseas. Even having your name leaked for a case with no criminal charges can ruin your reputation for life. I am impressed that the board has not publicly said any names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiCAN Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This is timely but doesn't shed much light: http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/09/28/554000605/concern-and-confusion-as-schools-review-new-sexual-assault-guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This could be relevant depending on what direction the school goes in http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2014/04/24/dez-wells-xavier-settle-lawsuit/8111709/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, kshoe said: Interesting that Rogers specifically referenced the Title IX investigation. Its clear they have been hired to make sure there isn't another kangaroo court situation. -sure seems like the players are following a different play book than what happened 7 years ago, I wonder what lessons the U learned from that instance that will be applied to this one? -let's have a fair, reasonable, equitable and speedy resolution based on all of the facts JohnnyJumpUp likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, 615Billiken said: LOL. You're going to hell. i believe in miracles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Cowboy said: -sure seems like the players are following a different play book than what happened 7 years ago, I wonder what lessons the U learned from that instance that will be applied to this one? Well, the athletic department certainly learned something from it. It was a real shame to hear how Kwamain and Willie were represented in comparison to their accuser for their situation. Now we will see how the University disciplinary board or whatever you call it handles it knowing what is sitting on the other side of the table. Regardless, I am really glad to hear that the players are receiving proper legal representation in a very serious matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, slufan13 said: To this point, I have heard that the reputation has followed Mitchell even overseas. Even having your name leaked for a case with no criminal charges can ruin your reputation for life. I am impressed that the board has not publicly said any names This isn't that surprising. When I google "Kwamain Mitchell" 2 of the top 5 search results are about the Situation 1.0. Prospective employers are certainly going to at least google your name before signing you to a contract and sports fans aren't above using past incidents to taunt someone on the opposing team. SLU should really have Kwam (or even Willie Reed) come back and talk to the current team before every season about his experience as a way to scare them into not behaving stupidly. Edited September 28, 2017 by RUBillsFan Willie is still behaving stupidly himself. NextYearBill and Spoon-Balls like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: This isn't that surprising. When I google "Kwamain Mitchell" 2 of the top 5 search results are about the Situation 1.0. Prospective employers are certainly going to at least google your name before signing you to a contract and sports fans aren't above using past incidents to taunt someone on the opposing team. SLU should really have Kwam (or even Willie Reed) come back and talk to the current team before every season about his experience as a way to scare them into not behaving stupidly. This is a really good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: This isn't that surprising. When I google "Kwamain Mitchell" 2 of the top 5 search results are about the Situation 1.0. Prospective employers are certainly going to at least google your name before signing you to a contract and sports fans aren't above using past incidents to taunt someone on the opposing team. SLU should really have Kwam (or even Willie Reed) come back and talk to the current team before every season about his experience as a way to scare them into not behaving stupidly. At least Kwamain... it looks Willie is still doing stupid stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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