billikenbill Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, slu72 said: Same problem. Drink, it lowers it. And a Travis Ford team will make you an alky. Last FG was at 12:55. Outscored 24-9 to end it, all 9 from the stripe. Add in 9 turnovers and the collapse was nearly deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 So many of our games end like this or worse, we lose. WTF is Ford telling these guys; relax it’s in the bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Go away ISU … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 SLU beat the Vegas spread, which was 8 this afternoon in a Strip sports book, 8.5 on ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, David King said: Giving up 71 pts to Ill State? Not good Actually the defense was pretty good overall. The pace the game was played at is why the scored 71. IL St. only shot 39% overall and 31% from the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, slu72 said: So many of our games end like this or worse, we lose. WTF is Ford telling these guys; relax it’s in the bag? No, he panics and the team loses focus Dr. Holly Hills likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 At some point blowing these huge leads becomes a coaching problem and I think that point was about 4 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just now, billikenbill said: No, he panics and the team loses focus This wasn’t one of those situations. They just went cold. They didn’t panic and they kept playing D. I don’t think they turned the ball over one time during the ISU run. Crewsorlose, MariaReynolds and Adman like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just now, dlarry said: At some point blowing these huge leads becomes a coaching problem and I think that point was about 4 years ago. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Holly Hills Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, billikenbill said: No, he panics and the team loses focus For real! He was calm most of the game until it started going south and started his wondering around and puffing his chest routine. All the players can sense that. billikenbill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I can’t believe I’m the guy defending Ford here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just now, Dr. Holly Hills said: For real! He was calm most of the game until it started going south and started his wondering around and puffing his chest routine. All the players can sense that. I noticed Chris Harriman was pretty positive on the bench when things were going south. Trying to get em going. I don't know what that was but I'm tired of it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, billikenbill said: Last FG was at 12:55. Outscored 24-9 to end it, all 9 from the stripe. Add in 9 turnovers and the collapse was nearly deadly. Also didn’t get our second FG to start the game until 15:18 when Bruce got his and-1. The middle 22 minutes were great though. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I thought Bruce should’ve gotten more clock in the second half. Fords hands were tied a bit with meadows out and Hughes Parker and Thames in fouls foul trouble. That said same crap every year under Ford and I’m over it. also medley is a black hole on offense. He’s incredibly small and not fast enough to beat his man off the dribble. Just doesn’t do it for me. Bizziken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Gibby went 2-7 on FG’s, made only 1 2pt and 1 3pt shot all night, and still ended up with 20 pts? 15 FT’s made? That’s just a weird looking stat line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, brianstl said: I can’t believe I’m the guy defending Ford here. Im not saying it was necessarily Ford’s fault tonight but it is definitely a trend. Who knows maybe this was a one time blip this year but the track record of blown leads has me nervous. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Westy03 said: I thought Bruce should’ve gotten more clock in the second half. Fords hands were tied a bit with meadows out and Hughes Parker and Thames in fouls foul trouble. That said same every year under Ford and I’m over it. also medley is a black hole on offense. He’s incredibly small and not fast enough to beat his man off the dribble. Just doesn’t do it for me. Possibly not in game shape form the injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 So much for 30 three point attempts per game. Typical Ford BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Westy03 said: I thought Bruce should’ve gotten more clock in the second half. Fords hands were tied a bit with meadows out and Hughes Parker and Thames in fouls foul trouble. That said same crap every year under Ford and I’m over it. also medley is a black hole on offense. He’s incredibly small and not fast enough to beat his man off the dribble. Just doesn’t do it for me. Agree about Bruce. Committed a bad turn over and was immediately yanked. TJ looked very tired at the end and needed a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, brianstl said: This wasn’t one of those situations. They just went cold. They didn’t panic and they kept playing D. I don’t think they turned the ball over one time during the ISU run. Yes, better D than the SIUE collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Now folks, despite all of the negatives in this game, there was an extraordinary event picked up by the camera in full detail. When the S IL team was in the process of rolling our lead down, this guard came dribbling rapidly to the board to shoot. He encountered TJ holding his ground firmly in defense. Their guard lowered his head and hit Hargrove smack in his mid drift and then he BOUNCED BACK FALLING DOWN AND LOSING THE BALL. Extraordinary scene, reminded me of Conklin standing firm and the other guy bouncing back and falling down. Wow! A most memorable scene. Hargrove is solid, the guy went down like he had hit a brick wall! Crewsorlose and BJK like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Holly Hills Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Any word on Thames? Looked like a nasty sprain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderdan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dr. Holly Hills said: Any word on Thames? Looked like a nasty sprain. Not serious. He’s just sore. Says he’ll be good-to-go for the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderdan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Yet another fun 25 minutes of Billiken basketball, followed by a maddening final 15. What do we attribute this to, over the years??? Parker is a gifted scorer. But he’s below-average at every other aspect of the game. When he gets the ball, he literally puts his head down and is determined to shoot (even if it’s a terrible shot). The stupid fouls (technicals/flagrants) are not a good sign. Saw encouraging things from Bruuuuuuuuuce. Looked winded fairly quickly, so maybe there WAS a knee issue, preventing him from getting his conditioning up. Still, looking forward to his development. This team is stealing the rock at a much higher rate than last year’s squad. Just need an inside presence on D (TJ did an admirable job, despite being undersized). 3-point defense continues to be an issue. A good shooting team is going to expose that. Success at the free throw line (particularly Gibson) won us the game tonight. Team free throws hadn’t looked good, the first few games. Hope this is the start of a positive trend. I’m not worried about Cian, like some are. Yes, he’s undersized, but we have experience with that here. He takes care of the ball and is a tenacious defender. His game will evolve, with time. Yes, we should’ve won by 15, but we DID beat the spread. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Sucks the game got as tight as it was because Bruce more minutes. definitely love what he brought and if he is with his first game showed, I am far less worried about the five spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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