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Just now, wgstl said:

Ya I thought the A10 did this last year too. 

Yet they do the traditional 5 players on the other teams (defensive, rookie, etc.)

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1 minute ago, moytoy12 said:

Yet they do the traditional 5 players on the other teams (defensive, rookie, etc.)

I thought I remember hearing an explanation as to why, but I dont remember it, ha. 

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2019-20 Atlantic 10 Men's Basktball Awards

Player of the Year: 
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Defensive Player of the Year: Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Rookie of the Year: Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Chris Daniels Most Improved Player: AJ Wilson, George Mason
Sixth Man of the Year: Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
Coach of the Year:  Anthony Grant, Dayton

 

All-Conference First Team
Jalen Crutcher, Dayton
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Kyle Lofton, St. Bonaventure
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis
 
All-Conference Second Team
Kellan Grady, Davidson
Marcus Weathers, Duquesne
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Blake Francis, Richmond
Grant Golden, Richmond
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
 
All-Conference Third Team
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Trey Landers, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Ryan Daly, Saint Joseph’s
Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis

All-Academic Team
Ryan Mikesell, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Jaren English, St. Bonaventure
Toliver Freeman, Saint Joseph’s
Marcus Santos-Silva, VCU
 
All-Defensive Team
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis
 
All-Rookie Team
Hyunjung Lee, Davidson
Jamison Battle, George Washington
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Yuri Collins, Saint Louis
Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland, VCU
 
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2 minutes ago, wgstl said:

Ya I thought the A10 did this last year too. 

My guess is that if guys got the same # of votes, they didn't have a tie-breaker. I got the SLU guys right, but botched the rest of it. I don't know the point of calling it A-10 awards and evaluating non-conference. Gudmundsson was amazing in conference and clearly does more for his team than Grady. Whatever. Glad to see the Billikens get the respect they deserve. Remember J-Good's tweet at the beginning of the season when he was picked 3rd team? 

I don't get Blake Francis on any team? High volume scorer, not very efficient, and does nothing else, who missed 1/3 of conference games? And Lofton on the 1st team? I didn't even know who that guy was on Saturday.

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22 minutes ago, Minerva N. Owl said:
2019-20 Atlantic 10 Men's Basktball Awards

Player of the Year: 
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Defensive Player of the Year: Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Rookie of the Year: Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Chris Daniels Most Improved Player: AJ Wilson, George Mason
Sixth Man of the Year: Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis
Coach of the Year:  Anthony Grant, Dayton

 

All-Conference First Team
Jalen Crutcher, Dayton
Obi Toppin, Dayton
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Kyle Lofton, St. Bonaventure
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis
 
All-Conference Second Team
Kellan Grady, Davidson
Marcus Weathers, Duquesne
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Blake Francis, Richmond
Grant Golden, Richmond
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
 
All-Conference Third Team
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Trey Landers, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Ryan Daly, Saint Joseph’s
Javonte Perkins, Saint Louis

All-Academic Team
Ryan Mikesell, Dayton
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Jaren English, St. Bonaventure
Toliver Freeman, Saint Joseph’s
Marcus Santos-Silva, VCU
 
All-Defensive Team
Fatts Russell, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Osun Osunniyi, St. Bonaventure
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis
 
All-Rookie Team
Hyunjung Lee, Davidson
Jamison Battle, George Washington
Tre Mitchell, Massachusetts
Yuri Collins, Saint Louis
Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland, VCU
 

Ryan Daly deserves better than 3rd team

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The league did all right by our guys.  Pretty much a clone of the predicted picks on this board. 

The Bonnies got rewarded for finishing ahead of UMass in the standings.  Hence the placement of Lofton ahead of Mitchell on the first team.  But everybody knows that Tre Mitchell is one of the top 3 players in the league.  He'll be the preseason POY in the conference going into next year.

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16 minutes ago, A10Ref said:

I would swap Daly for Grady easily. Daly is a lethal scorer.

or for Francis

Daly led Francis and Grady both in all 4 major categories points, boards, assists, and steals.  

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Have we ever been this represented on the all league teams? One on each 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teams. 6th man of the year. 2 on all defensive team and 1 on all rookie team. In all 4 different players represented. Great job to the Bills and coach Ford. 

 

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55 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said:

WTF? Lofton over Mitchell or Gilyard. The guy's a bona fide scrub. Easily the least impressive of all the guys on this list. 

 

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By my count, here are the totals of those awarded for the playing categories (not counting all-academic, which is important but a different type of category). Please advise if I messed up.

STL 7
Dayton 5
Richmond 5
St. Bona 4
Mass 3
RI 3
Mason 1
Davidson 1
Duquesne 1
St. Joe 1
GW 1
VCU 1
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12 minutes ago, slufanskip said:

or for Francis

Daly led Francis and Grady both in all 4 major categories points, boards, assists, and steals.  

This is not a fantasy league team.  This is a best players from the best teams team.  If St. Joe's wins 15 games next year, Daly will move up to the 2nd team, even if his numbers go down slightly.

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9 minutes ago, slufanskip said:

Have we ever been this represented on the all league teams? One on each 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teams. 6th man of the year. 2 on all defensive team and 1 on all rookie team. In all 4 different players represented. Great job to the Bills and coach Ford. 

 

Hard to compare since they do 18 guys make top 3 teams now as opposed to 15 but:

2012-13 we had COY, 1st Teamer, 2 3rd teamers, 1 all-defensive and 6MOY, 1 all academic

13-14 we had COY, POY, 2 1st teamers, 1 all defense, 2 all academic

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2 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

This is not a fantasy league team.  This is a best players from the best teams team.  If St. Joe's wins 15 games next year, Daly will move up to the 2nd team, even if his numbers go down slightly.

Well hell, lets just give 5 to Dayton then. Is there a cut off on where your team must finish for consideration? 

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31 minutes ago, Littlebill said:

WTF? Lofton over Mitchell or Gilyard. The guy's a bona fide scrub. Easily the least impressive of all the guys on this list. 

 

lofton was the bonnies leading scorer, had over a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio, shot 42% from the field, made 81% of his free throws, averaged 38 minutes a game led the bonnies in steals, i think you just saw him get dominated by the bully billikens the other night.   typically he is their franchise player.  

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I'm fine with Daly being on the third team. Yes, he scored 20ppg but he was also taking 17 shots every night. 31.0% from 3 and 42.0% overall doesn't scream all-conference to me. He's a very good player, but given how bad St. Joes were I don't think he should have made one of the first two teams. 

I'm surprised about Lofton, but I do think he's a good player. I probably would have had Mitchell and Golden over him. 

I don't think Francis deserved 2nd team. Good player, but not top 12 in the conference.

I'm glad Dowtin made 3rd team. He's been a great representative of the A-10 for the last four years.

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Glad to see the Big 3 all getting their All-conference due.

What's great about this team is how everyone has settled into their role and flourished within the team unit.

No time to rest on these laurels. Get the W Friday and keep it going.

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6 hours ago, billiken_roy said:

lofton was the bonnies leading scorer, had over a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio, shot 42% from the field, made 81% of his free throws, averaged 38 minutes a game led the bonnies in steals, i think you just saw him get dominated by the bully billikens the other night.   typically he is their franchise player.  

The exaggeration was a joke, but thanks for the explanation....

 

there’s really no place for Lofton on the first team

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