2019-20 Season

[wgstl]

Just now, HoosierPal said:

Your opinion is noted, as you have noted mine.  Thatch is good, but to me, his D his last year wasn't as good as Goodwin's this year.

I agree with that. Goodwin took a big jump this season. I guess where im coming from is how good thatch defense was as a frosh.

[RUBillsFan]

1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

We were preseason picked 7th in the A10. Today we are tied for 6th, but with Davidson having the tie breaker, we are 7th alongside of VCU.  Right on the prediction.  I'm not sure we are over-achieving, yet.  I need to see the next 6 games played out to see where we end up.  As you stated, let's take it one W at a time.

Agree, UMass will be a dogfight.  I'm looking for Goodwin to have this team ready for battle.  Tre Mitchell went 26/10 against Dayton.

It should be noted that the top half of the A10 has mostly exceeded pre-season expectations.  Davidson is about even and VCU is down.  All others in the top 8 are better than expected.  Therefore a 7th place (or higher) finish in this current A10 is stronger than a 7th place finish in the predicted preseason A10.  Here are the KenPom ranks to prove it:

Team	Preseason Rank	Current Rank
Dayton	55	6
Rhody	82	43
Richmond	95	51
VCU	23	53
Davidson	60	68
SLU	142	89
Duq	110	92
Bona	127	115
Mason	155	171
LaSalle	219	179
Umass	240	191
GW	212	218
Fordham	193	267
St Joes	222	272

[Clock_Tower]

3 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

So I can't have an opinion?  I don't do preseason predictions.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Personally, I would like to hear WHY  you don’t think we have over achieved this year.  We went from a veteran team to so many new faces. It was to be the big 3 - but turned into on the Big 2. We lost 2 of our best.  Did you expect Perkins to play this way?  Did you expect Jacobs to be a starter all year?   Did you expect Yuri to shatter the Freshmen assist record and play this well ?  Did you expect Bell to be this solid?  And as 3 Star correctly points out, the A10 is much improved over last year and we struggled much of last year with Seniors - and 2 of our better defensive guys in Thatch and Bess (a borderline NBA talent. 

[almaman]

I think we could all agree that before Gibby went down we looked like we could do a lot better than we thought before those first 10 games. I think we have done a bit better since the injury than I thought we would.

[HoosierPal]

1 hour ago, Clock_Tower said:

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Personally, I would like to hear WHY  you don’t think we have over achieved this year.  We went from a veteran team to so many new faces. It was to be the big 3 - but turned into on the Big 2. We lost 2 of our best.  Did you expect Perkins to play this way?  Did you expect Jacobs to be a starter all year?   Did you expect Yuri to shatter the Freshmen assist record and play this well ?  Did you expect Bell to be this solid?  And as 3 Star correctly points out, the A10 is much improved over last year and we struggled much of last year with Seniors - and 2 of our better defensive guys in Thatch and Bess (a borderline NBA talent. 

We were picked 7th by the A10 coaches.  We are in 7th.

The A10 coaches and media have a better feel for the league overall than a message board focused on one team.

In our OOC we beat one team that is (barely) Top 100 NET. 

Not over achieving, yet.  Six + games left to polish off this season.  See where she lands then.

[Old guy]

I was the one with a pre season estimate of 25-6 by the end of conference play. Things did not go that way but I still think we have played over most people's preseason expectations. Just think about it, if we win all the coming 6 games we will end the season (not counting the tournament) at 24-7, not far from my prediction. Can we do this?, maybe, we will see. Go Bills!

[NYBilliken]

If Crutcher missed that shot and Dambrot was still a Zip, we would be at least 20-5, looking good for March.

[billikenbill]

7 minutes ago, NYBilliken said:

If Crutcher missed that shot and Dambrot was still a Zip, we would be at least 20-5, looking good for March.

If if and buts were candy and nuts... If my aunt had balls she’d be my ... You’re right about Crutcher though. Still have occasional pain in my hand from slamming a table when it went in.

[Clock_Tower]

11 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

We were picked 7th by the A10 coaches.  We are in 7th.

The A10 coaches and media have a better feel for the league overall than a message board focused on one team.

In our OOC we beat one team that is (barely) Top 100 NET. 

Not over achieving, yet.  Six + games left to polish off this season.  See where she lands then.

Fair points - especially about the conference season, though I would say that you are not giving us enough credit for the OOC.   With such a young team and new faces, together with a limited role by Fred (part time for 6 games?) and the fact that many of the games were road games, I would say we exceeded expectations in the OOC.

And as far as the conference is concerned, I know that injuries are part of the game, but losing 2 our best/most critical players does not appear to be factored into your opinion.   The loss of the a team's defensive specialist and only 1 of 3 returning contributors is huge not to mention the loss of our best 3 point shooter/FT shooter on a team that is so challenged shooting wise is also huge.  

[HoosierPal]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-takes-step-toward-allowing-one-time-transfers-for-athletes-without-sitting-out/

New no-sit transfer rule could be here this summer.

[glazedandconfused]

2 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-takes-step-toward-allowing-one-time-transfers-for-athletes-without-sitting-out/

New no-sit transfer rule could be here this summer.

I'm no expert on the situation but this seems to have a good amount of support behind it. The ACC (yesterday) and Big Ten (earlier in the winter) have voiced support for it. This would get rid of the current waiver system and all academically eligible students could transfer once without sitting out a year. All sports but football, baseball, hockey and men's and women's basketball already allow this. Will be an interesting summer to watch how this affects transfers in basketball and football specifically.

 

[HoosierPal]

13 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said:

I'm no expert on the situation but this seems to have a good amount of support behind it. The ACC (yesterday) and Big Ten (earlier in the winter) have voiced support for it. This would get rid of the current waiver system and all academically eligible students could transfer once without sitting out a year. All sports but football, baseball, hockey and men's and women's basketball already allow this. Will be an interesting summer to watch how this affects transfers in basketball and football specifically.

 

Predictions:

Transfers will at least double.  There was something like 1000 last season. 

The Graduate Transfer phenomena will diminish....why go for a one year player when you can get a two year player.

Coaches will have a very difficult time figuring out when to stop recruiting and signing players.  You will almost HAVE to over recruit or you may have a short roster come September.

Once the L and I passes, poaching will become epidemic.  But deal with it...it's a two way street.

[glazedandconfused]

11 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

Predictions:

Transfers will at least double.  There was something like 1000 last season. 

The Graduate Transfer phenomena will diminish....why go for a one year player when you can get a two year player.

Coaches will have a very difficult time figuring out when to stop recruiting and signing players.  You will almost HAVE to over recruit or you may have a short roster come September.

Once the L and I passes, poaching will become epidemic.  But deal with it...it's a two way street.

Agreed. Hypothetically, I guess this would benefit coaches/programs that are skilled and committed recruiters....I think Ford and company could excel under this new rule more so than a lot of coaches. 

[kmbilliken]

This will allow the big time programs to poach the top players from lesser programs. How many big time programs covet French and Goodwin? They will come after them. The lower conferences could turn into farm systems for the top conferences.

[Cowboy]

17 minutes ago, kmbilliken said:

This will allow the big time programs to poach the top players from lesser programs. How many big time programs covet French and Goodwin? They will come after them. The lower conferences could turn into farm systems for the top conferences.

-my concern with this as well, sure the Big 10 and ACC want to get the kids they didn't evaluate correctly or who got a lot better from last recruitment

[Quality Is Job 1]

1 hour ago, kmbilliken said:

This will allow the big time programs to poach the top players from lesser programs. How many big time programs covet French and Goodwin? They will come after them. The lower conferences could turn into farm systems for the top conferences.

 

53 minutes ago, Cowboy said:

-my concern with this as well, sure the Big 10 and ACC want to get the kids they didn't evaluate correctly or who got a lot better from last recruitment

That's certainly a factor, but it may work in the opposite direction, as well.  Players at Power 5 programs who aren't content with their playing time or with how they're used could transfer to mid-major programs and thrive.

[JettFlight5]

2 hours ago, Quality Is Job 1 said:

 

That's certainly a factor, but it may work in the opposite direction, as well.  Players at Power 5 programs who aren't content with their playing time or with how they're used could transfer to mid-major programs and thrive.

Good point. I see it as free agency, but your take is very good here.

[thetorch]

On 2/18/2020 at 7:05 PM, Quality Is Job 1 said:

 

That's certainly a factor, but it may work in the opposite direction, as well.  Players at Power 5 programs who aren't content with their playing time or with how they're used could transfer to mid-major programs and thrive.

They already do this and are willing to sit to get more playing time later on.  The good to great players will move on immediately.  This will hurt mid and low majors a lot.

[Quality Is Job 1]

16 minutes ago, thetorch said:

They already do this and are willing to sit to get more playing time later on.  The good to great players will move on immediately.  This will hurt mid and low majors a lot.

But now the Power 5 players transferring "down" won't have to sit, either (if this rule goes into effect), so that might make more of them willing to go.  I don't know if it will hurt non-P5s more than it helps, but I don't like the idea.

If the rule change goes into effect, it should be with the stipulation that if a coach leaves a school, his players should not be allowed to follow him to his new school (without sitting out).

[HoosierPal]

Click thru for a nice Q&A from Chapley.   Perhaps the most interesting topic was the Medical Waivers for players.

Diarra and Hankton don’t match those descriptions. Diarra is not sitting because of an injury, and has appeared in games this year so his year of service is not in question, and Hankton’s injuries are not season ending by any means so he would not qualify (more on him in a moment). If neither had made any appearances, then they simply would have not burned a year of eligibility and a waiver would not be necessary. So, a ‘Redshirt’ would not apply for them

The program has been clear that they will apply for a Hardship Waiver for Gibson Jimerson, and they are confident he will be awarded the waiver and granted another year of eligibility.

Fred’s situation is a little different as the nature of the injury is less clear cut but equally debilitating. Should the remedy to Fred’s aliments become clear and he would suddenly be able to play, he would then become ineligible. My feeling is, at this point, that won’t be the case. He would be eligible for such a waiver and would have an even more rock-solid case than Jimerson, having played in less games.

As it has been explained to me from a reliable source, the Billikens can apply for the waivers at any point and they will be awarded or denied in a timely fashion. It is not as if they have to wait until their senior seasons for the application to take place. The Billikens plan to apply for these waivers at the end of this season, so it won’t be too long relatively until we know the fates of these players’ status.

[Old guy]

Good post Hoosier Pal. I think there is little doubt about Jimerson, but a lot of unknowns about Fred. Both medical red shirts are entirely justifiable as far as I am concerned. I would not expect to see Fred playing at his prior level in the future, although he may be able to play enough time and well enough by next season. I expect Jimerson to be fully recovered by next season, we will have to wait and see what Fred can do.

 

[Clock_Tower]

3 minutes ago, Old guy said:

Good post Hoosier Pal. I think there is little doubt about Jimerson, but a lot of unknowns about Fred. Both medical red shirts are entirely justifiable as far as I am concerned. I would not expect to see Fred playing at his prior level in the future, although he may be able to play enough time and well enough by next season. I expect Jimerson to be fully recovered by next season, we will have to wait and see what Fred can do.

 

If you are correct, I would rather we give Fred’s scholarship elsewhere.  Sorry but rather give him the Femi John deal. 

[JettFlight5]

Somewhat OT, but it seems that Kevin Stallings is in pretty hot NCAA water and was hit with a 3 year show cause penalty. 

[slufanskip]

3 hours ago, Clock_Tower said:

If you are correct, I would rather we give Fred’s scholarship elsewhere.  Sorry but rather give him the Femi John deal. 

I know you said if you are correct but doesn't it seem silly that we are putting even considering the diagnosis of someone who has never evaluated the player and has gotten all his info from an internet message board? Doctor or not, it seems a bit crazy to me. 

[Old guy]

6 hours ago, Clock_Tower said:

If you are correct, I would rather we give Fred’s scholarship elsewhere.  Sorry but rather give him the Femi John deal. 

As per the last radio interview Ford said they will get Fred the red shirt for 2019-2020, and that he expected him to be back to 100% soon. I think this is a good way of qualifying the current situation. He expects (hopes) for a given result, and will give Fred all the support he needs to get there. That is what I think he is saying. Getting back to 100% will have to be confirmed by actual play and see how well he does playing. Do not take me wrong I pray he gets better, but 100% (prior level) I just do not think it is likely. I fully agree that I would be willing to give Fred as much as he needs to get there, just as Ford is doing. I may be wrong in my assessment, and if I am I will jump with joy.